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zltan
post Nov 29 2006, 05:14 PM

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Only the green-coloured angles are the same? Right?
But the angle on top is 180 minus the 2 angles.

For the 1st situation, the angle on top is 60 degrees too....but you have to draw W, so you must divide it into 2 making it 30 degrees....

Am I correct? How did you get 60 degrees and 45 degrees on both sides if it is like that?

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post Nov 29 2006, 05:17 PM

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Just a quick question, how were physics today? As in, all the papers. smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 29 2006, 05:17 PM)
Sorry too many pages for me to read back. tongue.gif
Just a quick question, how were physics today? As in, all the papers. smile.gif
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We are argueing about the questions....as usual. rclxms.gif First it was the get logik...then it was the daya paduan/leraian daya

QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Nov 29 2006, 05:12 PM)
the kecerunan is 20.xx ..
yeah..i'm deprive of my sleep,but still gotta study for kimia.then can rest on fri liao.
fire away...
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I screwed that one....I got the kecerunan for I=0.02 not 0.2!!! AHHHH!!!

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post Nov 29 2006, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(zltan @ Nov 29 2006, 05:14 PM)
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Only the green-coloured angles are the same? Right?
But the angle on top is 180 minus the 2 angles.

Am I correct? How did you get 60 degrees and 45 degrees on both sides if it is like that?
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Green coloured angles are the same. Correct.

However, my point is that to get the triangle which you drew, you halved the original triangle. Which resulted in one of the T1 lines being cut off.

There, quoting my previous post: I thought that the segitiga keseimbangan daya had to consist of three lines: One W line symbolizing the weight, and two T1 lines, symbolizing the two strings used to hold the mirror. The final product of your drawing in your diagram only had one T1 line, which I felt was not fulfiling the question.

Of course, do correct me if I am wrong. I can be a bit of a scatterbrain sometimes.
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(Glassy @ Nov 29 2006, 05:19 PM)
Green coloured angles are the same. Correct.

However, my point is that to get the triangle which you drew, you halved the original triangle. Which resulted in one of the T1 lines being cut off.

There, quoting my previous post: I thought that the segitiga keseimbangan daya had to consist of three lines: One W line symbolizing the weight, and two T1 lines, symbolizing the two strings used to hold the mirror. The final product of your drawing in your diagram only had one T1 line, which I felt was not fulfiling the question.

Of course, do correct me if I am wrong. I can be a bit of a scatterbrain sometimes.
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Yes, but you have to split the BIG triangle into 2 small triangle with 90 degrees....and the line dividing them into 2 is W.

Since the keseimbangan daya must consist of 3 lines....I got rid of 1 triangle, but it is understood what I mean.

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post Nov 29 2006, 05:24 PM

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Stop talkin bout fizik la..Over de lo..

For kimia i think should read garam terlarut dis time..Coz tak terlarut came out a lot if im not wrong..

Any other tips??
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All right. In that case, your triangle has one T1 line and one W line. So what's the line at the bottom called? Surely it couldn't be the other T1. >_o

Where's your second T1 line then? *scratches head*
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:25 PM

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EDITED picture with the forces. The green line downwards is W and the 'melintang' line is komponen-y.

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anyone who has kimia tips?
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:28 PM

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Ah, now I understand the reasoning behind it. *nods* I forgot all about komponen-y.

One last question: So does this mean that the question was not asking for two identical T1 lines in the triangle? Because that was the impression which I got.

For Chemistry...I've got some tips that garam terlarutkan is coming out, yeah.

Have you guys finished memorizing Bab 8 of Form Four and Bab 5 of Form Five yet? You know, the technology/consumer kind of chapters. Sabun, Detergen, Ubat, Aloi, Kaca, etc.
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QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Nov 29 2006, 05:12 PM)
the kecerunan is 20.xx ..
yeah..i'm deprive of my sleep,but still gotta study for kimia.then can rest on fri liao.
fire away...
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the kertas 3 wan? U serious about it? i got 13

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QUOTE(Glassy @ Nov 29 2006, 05:28 PM)
Ah, now I understand the reasoning behind it. *nods* I forgot all about komponen-y.

One last question: So does this mean that the question was not asking for two identical T1 lines in the triangle? Because that was the impression which I got.

For Chemistry...I've got some tips that garam terlarutkan is coming out, yeah.

Have you guys finished memorizing Bab 8 of Form Four and Bab 5 of Form Five yet? You know, the technology/consumer kind of chapters. Sabun, Detergen, Ubat, Aloi, Kaca, etc.
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i still kenot remember aloi... wad are the materials...duno why..just cant ler
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I found a few of the Kertas 3 questions to be...unconventional to say the least. =P

Well, the kecerunan graf...I got 20.5 for that. o_o
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Tomorrow is chemistry, what are you guys spoting for the experiment?
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Glassy @ Nov 29 2006, 05:28 PM)
Ah, now I understand the reasoning behind it. *nods* I forgot all about komponen-y.

One last question: So does this mean that the question was not asking for two identical T1 lines in the triangle? Because that was the impression which I got.

For Chemistry...I've got some tips that garam terlarutkan is coming out, yeah.

Have you guys finished memorizing Bab 8 of Form Four and Bab 5 of Form Five yet? You know, the technology/consumer kind of chapters. Sabun, Detergen, Ubat, Aloi, Kaca, etc.
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I am not sure what the question wants...they were very vague. But, they asked for nilai T1 in Newtons, but they want you to draw it according to scale. Usually, we could just solve it using trigonometry. I am rclxub.gif

Chem: You should concentrate on Haber since Sentuh came out already. For the aloi..just remember the common ones, bronze, brass, duralumin etc. I am worried about sel kimia; sel nikel-kadmium blabla...I haven't read those yet!
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QUOTE(Glassy @ Nov 29 2006, 05:31 PM)
I found a few of the Kertas 3 questions to be...unconventional to say the least. =P

Well, the kecerunan graf...I got 20.5 for that. o_o
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oh my..i am the odd one out..pls le...6 marks there ah...

how u get the kecerunan? not use the hukum ohn line meh?
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yeah. kecerunan for the I=0.2 is 20.xx.
u draw a segi tiga.
the detergen n sabun 1 still manageble..
but aloi..huh..i wont go memorise that kind of thing.
garam terlarutkan/? u mean cara menyediakan ar?
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QUOTE(^mtv^ @ Nov 29 2006, 05:32 PM)
yeah. kecerunan for the I=0.2 is 20.xx.
u draw a segi tiga.
the detergen n sabun 1 still manageble..
but aloi..huh..i wont go memorise that kind of thing.
garam terlarutkan/? u mean cara menyediakan ar?
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i did... use the V/I right? 2x.xx / 0.2 something like that ma..not ah?
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post Nov 29 2006, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Tm89 @ Nov 29 2006, 05:28 PM)
the kertas 3 wan? U serious about it? i got 13
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Join my club.....I got 13, let me guessed, you got the kecerunan for 0.02A and not 0.2 A?

We are supposed to draw a tangen like kadar tindak balas kimia....Oh well....I got it wrong too.

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