putting an eclipse with sony and pioneer??? no fight man...

any ICE kaki will know that eclipse is the way to go.

so far the only brands i can think of that would be comparable to eclipse would be nakamichi and alpine... even then oso i think most ice kakis will still go for eclipse.

anyway.... i voted for eclipse based on brand... but thats BEFORE i read what u posted

after reading ur requirements id say the best bang for buck would be the pioneer....

BUT... if all u wanna do is play normal audio CDs or MP3 CDs... id still stick with the eclipse..looks better too