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post Mar 10 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 10 2016, 10:00 AM)
anyone from here tried buying?
i am considering the SPDR® STI ETF (SGX:ES3)
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Bought.. BUT, mine's a nominee a/c with HLiB/HLeB, thus maybe doesn't count for the need to pass whatnottests
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post Mar 10 2016, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 10 2016, 10:43 AM)
Which one can consider STI ETF or Nikko STI ETF?
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er.. in logical terms, both can consider ma
i preferred & bought STI ETF for my own reasons

A simple google like:
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrom...kko%20sti%20etf

and walla eg. of 1 of the major reasons i preferred STI ETF (see item 2. xxxx in the link below)
http://whatsbehindthenumbers.blogspot.my/2...-sti-etf_7.html

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post Mar 11 2016, 12:31 AM

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Mar 10 2016, 07:54 PM)
Hi,

I read the article above and it talked about returns over 10 years with and also without dividends computed. Just curious how are the dividends for these ETFs paid out or are they paid out at all? If not, they must be retained by the ETF and ultimately reflected in NAV? If so, then the index or the share price itself already price in total returns for 10 years right? Why is there a need to calculate "with dividends" returns separately?

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i've received the dividends for my STI
Other SG listef ETFs, cant comment

also received for CIMBA40 listed in MY (& SG i think)

so..what was goal of the Qs again rclxub.gif
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post Mar 21 2016, 07:48 AM

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-deleted- same data as AV

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post Aug 30 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Aug 30 2016, 05:09 PM)
Some analyst say if interest rate increase, that means investor will shift their funds from stock to money market since return is better with higher interest. So stock will come down

Some analyst say if interest rate increase, that means the economy is good, confident restored, business will improve. So stock will go up

That is how the analysts work. On their table there are a few standard answers. When market close, depending on the market direction, they pick the answer most suitable to describe the day  biggrin.gif
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post Nov 18 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Nov 18 2016, 01:23 PM)
the M'sians are putting into SG / US instruments...

the S'reans are puttinging into US instruments...

Basic investing.. always invest into countries that Currency is higher.. .right?
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my apologies to bump in.

i think the basis, if following the idea of asset allocation + sub-asset diversification, will be LOW CORRELATED currencies too, not just "Currency that is higher"
eg.
now i'm staying in MY & most of my assets are in MY denominated
Thus, i start moving some to USD denominated - eg US listed stocks, trade in US stock options

but hor, i want more "stability" in case MYR or USD spikes/falls
Thus, i move into SGD REITs & dividend stocks too

Example of high/low correlated currency pairs data
https://www.oanda.com/forex-trading/analysi...ncy-correlation

too many a-times i've read/heard people screaming & running towards "higher currency" blindly, thus.. just sharing another perspective, especially given time & fluctuation throughout the years.
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post Jan 3 2017, 09:50 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jan 3 2017, 08:36 AM)
'Singapore's Q4 economy grew by 9.1%'

Reported by Bloomberg this morning,....

shocking.gif  shocking.gif
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link?

Singapore GDP surprises with 1.8% full-year growth in 2016
http://www.businesstimes.com.sg/government...-at-18-y-o-y-91

Pasal English izzit? er.. U studying in US right? not enough coffee too eh tongue.gif
"It grew a steady 9.1 per cent on an annualised basis from the previous quarter."

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post Jan 10 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jan 10 2017, 08:32 AM)
Maybe some are.
In fact i think those in business are always finding ways, and of course those who songlap.

Millionaire in MYR is nothing to shout about nowadays.
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yeah.. must be >=USD millionaire *2 (ex-home/cars/doodads, children's Uni costs), to be able to chill all in FD

eg.
MYR10,000 pm now to be comfortable, not live rich
double it - for long term inflation & gawd know GST what
*12 months
=MYR240,0000

Assuming 3%pa FD, to get MYR240,000 pa, need MYR240,000/3% = MYR8,000,000
see USD2M if at MYR4: USD1
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post Jan 26 2017, 11:29 AM

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Just to share:
STOCKS WORTH CONSIDERING IN 2017
EXCERPTS FROM VARIOUS RESEARCH HOUSES
http://www.sharesinv.com/wp-content/upload...ing-In-2017.pdf
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post Feb 8 2017, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Feb 8 2017, 06:35 AM)
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I haven't heard of investor who made it big by saving the brokerage costs  biggrin.gif

When a person gets petty, he won't be a good investor
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heheh - not just investor, biz owner, employee, etc too
when one focuses on the minute, losing focus on the big impact stuff....
"penny wise, pound foolish" kinda thing laugh.gif

sigh.. facing these types much nowadays
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post Feb 8 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 8 2017, 03:46 PM)
BUT BUT Msian brokers wanna charge me 0.1% local plus 0.6% foreign brokerage.

Compare that with my SG broker at 0.3 to 0.4%.............  sad.gif
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gold bro - U pulling me leg (3rd?!!) ar laugh.gif

0.7%+easy $in/out
vs
0.4%+some hassle

unless U already have an account in SG or can open one "sup sup water"...

for me, still on HLeB for SGX stuff - easy for me to pump cash & convert any time
+ other "security / options" stuff clarified liao (not too right to put in public forum heheh).
thus, aiya - i afford them 0.3% la - lazy fler here

if i can't even afford them 0.3%, then i should not even have mutual funds and ETFs lor - yearly mgt fees for mutual funds in MY & SG usually >=1.5%,
even some US ETFs hits 1%pa+ fees (mostly 0.5%pa)
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post May 29 2017, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ May 29 2017, 09:44 AM)
property best investment?? i am liquidating from property to put into SHARE market.

Too tedious managing tenants.!!!
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similar experience - given that not all renters & building management is good, high probability will get headaches with at least one of the properties.

heheh - give benefit of the doubt, may be for some that have HUGE capital like small REITs ma, can outsource everything, be in several countries' properties & types and still make good net rental yields (i've seen 1 or 2 before doing this)
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virgins stating "facts" of best-est investment? which we know it all depends.. laugh.gif

Personally, even if i have the former, i'd rather it be across at least 3 countries (different economies), currencies (trust in several different Gov, than 1) AND asset classes... urgh.. maybe that's why i'm not "there" yet sweat.gif cry.gif

No absolute right/wrong - just preferences / priorities kua notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 24 2017, 12:56 AM)
That's right, bro,....  thumbsup.gif  So,... need to be very careful reading all this misleading statements from the Msian press.
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Typical la - like hebohkan "MY born blah blah" but hid the fact that the person grew/cultivated by other countries coz we here too smart to recognize brains, recognize only jilat/polishers bangwall.gif

Best = balanced reporting, like good asset allocation & sub-allocation laugh.gif


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post Aug 11 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Aug 11 2017, 04:12 PM)
Nah. Not sure. But I do know that I answered back to which gets me into trouble sometimes. I don't take yes always.
Have a few friends. Some close, some normal. For those normal, I rather get out of their way as they are YOLO type of people. Free flow alcohol every weekend. Birthdays/Christmas/CNY celebration min must spend RM100/person. Road trip, min RM300-RM700. These YOLO people are those I mentioned at the end of the month no money.

My close friends are people who I can click with (not those YOLO fellas). Peer pressure of course got. But see how you resist lo. After a while those YOLO people ignore me (we are still friends and still talk) as they cannot ajak me for trips/drinks/birthday celebrations (too expensive, can't afford it). I join my other close friends for cheap trips. I have my priorities. Get a degree, don't spend too much (it's ok to spend on healthy food), come back safe and sound.

For me, I feel happier with a fat bank account rather than drinks and unnecessary celebrations. For me alcohol drinks/junk food/smoking/spending money on girls (unless is my wife. I have no problem spending on future my wife if is reasonable. tongue.gif Not until extend of Hermes, blink blink  whistling.gif ) are wasting money. Why bother to pay for something which is poisoning you slowly? It just doesn't make sense. Eg. Buying a bottle of liquor vs buying a raw salmon meat. Better I buy the salmon meat to myself a 5 star meal than getting high on alcohol. Nice to eat some more.

Actually it all depends on how one is bought up . I was bought up to be frugal to know that money is hard to come by. Cannot simply waste. Health is wealth. If you are healthy, you can enjoy your money. No point, partying now, smoking, drinking and be bed ridden/full of sickness when you retire.
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OT warning heheh - U dude, will most probably be "brought down" by women tongue.gif
Old chinky saying - ding dong ching chong.
Translated = Man's vice is gambling, drinks/drugs and/or women (nowadays can be other men or trans.. hehe updated version), sure got 1 or more vice wan

not cursing U ar.. speaking from experience (simple life, healthy life, but..) bwhahahaha laugh.gif icon_question.gif

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post Jan 31 2021, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 31 2021, 12:16 PM)
hm.. depends.. in heavily liquid & near-efficient markets - from what i see, cost is the wealth-killer
for local & emerging markets - due to information & other frictions (hint hint - cables) - yeah, better managed UTs may beat simple low-cost indices

above is not a 1 or 0 la, more like 80% / 20%
eg US markets - 80% of the time cost effectiveness beats managed/guided funds

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post Mar 8 2021, 09:40 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Mar 8 2021, 09:21 AM)
I didn't realize Singapore wants to reimpose wealth tax...

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/banking-fi...s-as-wealth-hub
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oh kaka.. my TOS (TD Ameritrade SG) assets - i thought dodged a bullet from US' IRS when moved from OX to TOS SG.
thanks for the heads-up, TOS.
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post Feb 5 2022, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Feb 5 2022, 06:20 PM)
yup
once bitten (bye bye SG from Malaysia)
twice shy (CLOB-bered)
thrice how ar? no more cheeks to turn unless lower cheeks XD
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post Oct 29 2022, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Oct 29 2022, 10:43 AM)
Have been thinking about this bro.

Your statement is only true if:

MY retirement inflation rate < SGD/MYR appreciation rate + SG retirement inflation rate 

So it kind of depends on your retirement spendings and also the rate at which BNM prints money.
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Personally - best to retire in countries with high enough medical facilities & standards, yet cheap enough health care, food & blue-collar services like home/electrical/wetwork maintenance WHILE making passive income in USD, GBP, SGD, etc. Best of both worlds - relative monetary strength with cost effective living
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post Oct 29 2022, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Oct 29 2022, 04:53 PM)
Sure, bro,... which ctry is that ?  biggrin.gif
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places that fits the scope while allowing one to invest in SGX, US markets, etc.
https://smartasset.com/retirement/cheapest-...tries-to-retire
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post Dec 1 2022, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Dec 1 2022, 11:58 AM)
Please allow me to introduce you guys a new term in high finance: "Singapore-washing".

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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laugh.gif soon some ultra-rightist MAGA in US Con will cry foul on SG for colluding with CN

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