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Ramjade
post Feb 23 2017, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 23 2017, 09:48 PM)
Unfortunately no.

First step is to apply for a SG bank account. You can do that in Malaysia. Look at SG bank account thread for more info.

Next you can apply for trading account, after you get the bank account. Ask to link or transfer holdings from your CDP account.

Later when account approved, you can sell your shares online.
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No need SG account. Philip SG, Maybank KE all can open without the need for bank account.
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post Feb 23 2017, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 23 2017, 10:16 PM)
That the proceeds from share sale.. can they transfer to MY account?
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According to Phillip can. But I told them not interested. Only want your UT account.
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post Feb 24 2017, 08:18 AM

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sugarcookies check my reply above. You don't need a bank account (in the event SG banks refuse you)
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post Feb 24 2017, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(sugarcookies @ Feb 24 2017, 11:38 AM)
And I still need a trading account register with one of the brokerage firms? And I need to do it in SG?
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Those are brokers which can open up account for you without a bank account. Yes. Need to do in SG. You can apply for Maybank KE/Philip SG via Malaysia but you need commisioner of oath.
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post Feb 27 2017, 01:16 PM

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gark, do you think I can lodge complaint with MAS against SCB SG for preventing me to open brokerage account?

I have my documents everything but they refuse to open for me because
(i) I am not working/studying in SG
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post Feb 27 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Feb 27 2017, 01:33 PM)
Dont think so, opening accounts is at bank discretion.
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Thanks. Sad to hear that. sad.gif I don't need their esaver but it's compulsory to open esaver if want their brokerage account.
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post Feb 27 2017, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 27 2017, 01:50 PM)
Why do you not want to open an esaver account?
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I don't want esaver account. But to open their brokerage, its compulsory to open an esaver account or else they won't let you open a brokerage account.
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post Feb 27 2017, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 27 2017, 09:13 PM)
opening accounts is at bank's discretion. and also you ought to open esaver acc to linked to your trading acc. fall below fee is SGD5 per mth. you ought to maintain average daily balance of sgd1k tongue.gif

No use to complain to MAS as opening of acc is subject to bank's discretion.
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What is there to link when they refuse to open account for me? SGD1k is easy enough for me to maintain. Right now I am maintaining my DBS MCA at SGD3k/month. sad.gif Will use United Asian HY Bond fund to pay them off come March. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 27 2017, 09:19 PM)
why don u roll the ball with the existing DBSV you are having now. rather than switching frm DBVS to MKE to Stanchart.
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Already did. Right now because DBS V is SGD5/trade (SGD10 with SGD5 rebate), I will buy using DBS V first, After promo over, switch over to MKE. Whatever buy with DBS V stay with DBS V and won't be switched over to MKE (If switched over to MKE, waste of my money buying with DBS V at SGD5 as Maybank charges SGD10.60/counter transfer in).

So after DBS V promo over and fees is back to SGD18, will stop buying from them. Will use MKE to buy instead at SGD10 (MKE promo is until end of the year. Come January next year, I think all broker will have promo again biggrin.gif drool.gif ).

SCB will open once I can prove to them I have income (that's all one branch need to open account with them). Then when I can open brokerage account with SCB, consolidate all shares from DBS V and MKE into SCB since SCB absorb all transfer in fees. Get the best of both world. SGD5/trade + SGD10/trade + free transfer in. Only if SCB allow me to open account with them. console.gif
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post Feb 27 2017, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Feb 27 2017, 09:48 PM)
So complicated.. anyway Good Luck.

How abt UOB ? Have u try that ?
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It's not complicated. Just buy from whichever broker offer the cheapest rate lo. Just like shopping for item A (stock). You have selection of Tesco, Giant, Aeon (brokers). Pick one which give the cheapest deal for item A.

Will not go for them as they charge maintenance fee.
http://www.utrade.com.sg/page/site/public/...SG_FAQPlus.html
http://www.utrade.com.sg/page/site/public/...SG_FAQEdge.html

Same case with OCBC
https://portal.iocbc.com/assets/pdf/ospl/EP...ation_Sheet.pdf
I am totally against anything which charges platform/maintenance fee vmad.gif ranting.gif
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post Feb 28 2017, 09:52 AM

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How to transfer USD from my DBS MCA to trading account in DBS Vickers? Can use EPS?
Ramjade
post Mar 1 2017, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Mar 1 2017, 12:06 PM)
ramjade.. the SBS MCA.. fall below fee is SGD 7.50 for below SGD 3K

is it 3k per currency or 3k any currency.

eg: i hv 5k in SGD 1k USD.. so that means they will charge the SGD 7.50 or not?

if u are  below 29 yrs old .. dun hv the fall below fee leh...
https://internet-banking.dbs.com.sg/IB/Welcome

Monthly Account Fee

N.A S$2 S$4
Fall-below fee if the average daily balance falls below S$3,000*

S$7.50
(Waived up till 29 years old)
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They charge you if your total value (USD, AUD, SGD, HKD, ...) totaled up less than SGD3k. And fall below fees is SGD5/month. It's not SGD7.50.

From what AIYH taught me, you can use United Asian HY Bond Fund to pay the fees. Just make sure you park enough money in the DBS account for them to deduct (for 1 year = SGD60). The remaining dump into United Asian HY Bond Fund. Assuming United Asian HY Bond Fund continue to give 10%pa, you will get extra SGD60+ after minus DBS fee.

Note: Haven't have the guts to try it tongue.gif
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post Mar 1 2017, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 1 2017, 07:37 PM)
why don't you close the acc after 6 mths. then move the funds to FSM or Sg reits. by doing this, you don't have to pay the SGD60.
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I need the DBS MCA for future transactions (USD, AUD, HKD, GBP). Besides it's better to have a local SG bank (one of the 3s) than rely on Maybank, CIMB SG.

This post has been edited by Ramjade: Mar 1 2017, 07:41 PM
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post Mar 1 2017, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 1 2017, 07:43 PM)
Daily average bal for DBS 3K, CIMB 1K, MBB 1K. you alrdy wasted 5k not doing anything tongue.gif that is RM15,000

I think you got to relook on your plan. mega_shok.gif
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DBS - just leave SGD120 inside for them to deduct
Cimb - FOC. No fall below fees rclxms.gif
Maybank only SGD500.

Total = SGD620 only.

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post Mar 1 2017, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Mar 1 2017, 07:53 PM)
DBS left SGD120 to be left for deduction. sound like planning not so good. Sgd10 also you are so conscious, but not SGD120 is nothing. hmmm...it seems you are so desperate.
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Well better to leave some of my money inside there for them to deduct then leave full SGD3k inside there not earning anything. What's SGD60 (I will put SGD120 so that there is more than enough for them to deduct)/year when one can earn potentially more than that with the SGD2880?

Of course, I will allocate some for SGX crash like what sifu ele88 is doing.

Where you can save you save. Where you cannot save, don't save.
- SGD18 vs SGD10, that one you can save
- 0.1%pq platform fees vs 0% platform fees

These are small savings which one can save.
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post Mar 3 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Mar 3 2017, 10:15 AM)
Hmm,... rumours are strongly everywhere that Fed rate hike will certainly take place on Mar 15th... why do I not see the REITs and Trusts dropping in their prices ???
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1. People are smarter nowadays. Why should a 0.25% increase bother people when most REITS have fixed interest rate at ~80+%
2. People dump REITS because they expect US to rise interest drastically.
3. There's no financial crisis which involves bank.
4. Even if it's 50%, Feds are known to cry wolf. If say expectation is at 75% then maybe you will see something.

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post Mar 3 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 3 2017, 11:34 AM)
Ram

It's not just Reits yield vs interest rate for investors.

When interest rates rise, the cost of business goes up as well. Therefore, the Reits income will be affected due to interest costs rising, which is a major cost component for Reits due to high debt leverage of Reits. Following this, the yield will of course be affected.
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Ok. Noted. Hopefully it will drop when I topped up my bullets into my SG SA. drool.gif drool.gif

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post Mar 5 2017, 10:28 PM

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Guys what's your opinion about this.

http://investmentmoats.com/stock-market-co...stment+Moats%29

Once ECRL is operational, SG ship industry will be affected. We saw how oil affects the shipping industry which in turn affects the banks.

Not to mention the roads which China cut through asia to Pakistan.

What do you guys think will happen to SG economy?
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post Mar 6 2017, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 6 2017, 08:47 AM)
Also worried about this massive project by China with Thailand

http://www.theindependent.sg/the-real-thre...anced-by-china/
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This will definitely affect malaysia too. Time to focus on Thailand?
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post Mar 7 2017, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Mar 7 2017, 06:38 AM)
You are a classic case of "information overload". Think too far ahead of your situation. Worrying too much about macro environment instead of micro managing your own financial

Happens to many people with above average IQ and reading too much into every information they get. And spooking themselves and become jittery on every news whether relevant or otherwise

Bro, look at the food in front of you and get your stomach filled first. Those delicacy on the other side of the table will wait for you when you are ready
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I think one need to look at all things from all angles to be prepare and never let small things slip through.

Small things may/can cause you opportunities.

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post Mar 7 2017, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Mar 7 2017, 08:31 AM)
Ram,

We being small investors better stick to bottom up approach.

There is too much smoke out there!
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ECRL might not be a big impact. But with china cutting roads throughout asia and and planning to cut through thailand (bypassing straits of malacca completely) definitely something have to give.

Yes, they might be smoke and noise, but it helps to plan the next move should such actions cost SG a chunk of their economy.

This is beyond what MAS can control. They can't force china not to cut through thailand or asia.

Anyway, we will see what happen in five-ten years time to see impact towards Singapore economy.

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