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prophetjul
post Jun 17 2020, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 17 2020, 09:41 AM)
Too bad tiger does not offer service for SG stocks. Any idea when they will offer service for SG stocks?
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Any link to this Tiger broker?

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post Jun 17 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 17 2020, 10:02 AM)
https://www.tigerbrokers.com.sg/market/sem-sg

Sorry, there is indeed a new service for SG equities. I was looking at the US version before this.
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post Jun 23 2020, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(z21j @ Jun 23 2020, 03:32 PM)
What's happen to Wilmar today? Cant seem to be able to search any news.
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https://www.theedgesingapore.com/news/compa...ipo-draws-query
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post Jun 25 2020, 02:08 PM

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https://www.theedgesingapore.com/news/oil-g...-hin-leong-loss


HSBC and other banks unlikely to recoup Hin Leong loss


(June 25): The prospects for HSBC Holdings Plc and other banks to recover losses from a failed Singapore oil trader are dimmer than originally thought after an accounting review found the energy firm overstated assets by US$3 billion (S$4.17 billion) and fabricated documents on a “massive scale.”
Hin Leong Trading (Pte) Ltd. has assets of about US$257 million, or 7% of its estimated US$3.5 billion in liabilities, the company’s interim managers said in a report to Singapore’s High Court on Tuesday. That’s less than half the assets estimated by founder Lim Oon Kuin and his son Evan Lim, according to earlier affidavits to the court.
HSBC is among 23 banks owed almost US$4 billion by Hin Leong, one of the largest traders in Singapore before its collapse in April following a plunge in oil prices that exposed what the report found were “manipulated” accounts and frequent double counting of cargo to keep credit lines flowing.
See: Documents forged on a “massive scale” at Hin Leong to hide losses
“The scale and regularity of the fabrication suggests that the practice was routine and pervasive,” the report found. “These forged documents enabled the company to mislead banks in extending financing to the company and also acted as supporting documentation for the fictitious gains and profits.”
HSBC, the London-based bank with the most exposure to Hin Leong at about US$600 million, declined to comment on the report. Hin Leong didn’t respond to email inquiries seeking comment. The court filing was earlier reported by Reuters and Singapore’s Straits Times.

Hin Leong “systematically manipulated its accounts to inflate the value of its accounts receivables” to present an exaggerated picture of its financial health, according to the report by PricewaterhouseCoopers LLC’s Chan Kheng Tek and Goh Thien Phong. Chan and Goh, who were appointed in April as interim judicial managers to oversee the company, added that Hin Leong has “no reasonable prospect” of rehabilitation as a standalone entity.
Legal Disputes
The trading house and its sister companies owned by the Lim family should be put together as an integrated trading platform to be restructured, while the Lims should inject their personal assets, the managers said in the report. The Lims, who received dividends totalling $90 million in the 2018 and 2017 fiscal years, haven’t responded to this suggestion via their legal advisers, according to the report.
The Hin Leong collapse has sparked several legal disputes among banks and other creditors seeking to recover losses from the debacle. Sinopec last month lost a legal bid to halt a loan payment, while Winson Oil Trading Pte. Ltd. took Oversea-Chinese Banking Corp. to court, demanding payment for a sale of fuel tied to Hin Leong.
Hin Leong’s audited financial statements for the financial year ended in October overstated the value of its assets by at least US$3 billion, according to the report. This overstatement comprised $2.23 billion in accounts receivables that have no prospect of recovery, and US$800 million in inventory shortfalls, it said.
As part of the alleged manipulation, Hin Leong transferred money among its various bank accounts to give the false impression that accounts receivables were collected, when no payments were received, the managers said. This not only inflated the value of the balances, but also gave it an appearance of legitimacy by ensuring that the accounts were kept current, they said.
The moves helped conceal significant losses, the managers said, adding that Hin Leong suffered derivatives trading hits of about $808 million over the past decade.
Non-Existent Cargo

Among its US$3.5 billion in liabilities, there are about 273 outstanding letters of credit facilities issued by 23 lenders, the report said. About 60 of them, amounting to US$1.5 billion, were used in bilateral or multi-party transactions in which Hin Leong would buy and sell the same cargo on the same date, or within a short interval, at a loss. These trades were done for the sake of obtaining liquidity, the report said.



Banks Amounts Owed in US$ Million as of April
HSBC $600
OCBC, DBS, ABN Amro $250-$300
BOC, Rabobank, StanChart, SocGen $210-$240
Natixis, ANZ $160-$190
CIMB, SMBC, UOB $130-$140
CTBC, CAI, ICICI $100
Westpac, Deutsche Bank, QNB, Unicredit $60-$90
DZ, JPMorgan, ING $40-$50


In other instances, the company would sell and buy back non-existent cargo from its counterparty for financing, the report said. Other transactions included purchasing cargo only to sell it back simultaneously without taking physical delivery.
The PwC report said the company and founder OK Lim haven’t replied to questions from the managers, nor stated whether or when they will respond. Lim’s lawyers said he is unwell and won’t be able to assist “for a prolonged period of time,” according to the report.

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post Jun 25 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(markedestiny @ Jun 25 2020, 04:24 PM)
Not just this, in general banks could expect  more defaults coming soon...
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Singularly, this default is one of the biggest for regional banks.
And its probably fraud involved.
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post Jul 13 2020, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2020, 11:24 AM)
see what i mean?

dow +369, all asia pac green.... STI is red.

haiz.... sad.gif

but... i did something right early this morning.

Riverstone +7%.
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AV

Are you a trend trader?
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post Jul 13 2020, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2020, 11:28 AM)
i dunno what that is! laugh.gif

i have been trading gloves at bursa for >2 weeks now.

hesitated with this riverstone last week but went in today.
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You seem to be attracted by stocks with massive uptrend now.
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post Jul 13 2020, 02:34 PM

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Why did UG healthcare dip to $1.40 just now?

Caught some at $1.50 smile.gif

Following AV on rubber gloves. laugh.gif
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post Jul 13 2020, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 13 2020, 02:34 PM)
Why did UG healthcare dip to $1.40 just now?

Caught some at $1.50  smile.gif

Following AV on rubber gloves.    laugh.gif
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Sold 50% at $1.83 .
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post Jul 13 2020, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(icecreamcake @ Jul 13 2020, 02:36 PM)
UG hit circuit breaker just now.
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Yeah. WHY?
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post Jul 13 2020, 03:23 PM

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How come when i press the 'like' button, the screen just zooms to the top? ?
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post Jul 13 2020, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2020, 04:33 PM)
1.74. u still hv profit for the second half! thumbup.gif
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Yeah. For a fast fleece! laugh.gif
Hopefully, it will go higher tmoro.
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post Jul 14 2020, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 13 2020, 05:22 PM)
Standard response. biggrin.gif
They have been queried in May i think. After that the price rose further. Hopefully its the same.
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post Jul 14 2020, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(TOS @ Jul 13 2020, 05:36 PM)
propheful You don't strike me as a trader, do you?

Or being influenced too much by AVFAN? laugh.gif

Very little lost today, despite the sell-down on STI. Only lost 0.07% thanks to KDC REIT. This counter-cyclical buffer help cushion a lot of losses and has now returned me 17% in paper profits.

Broker's take on OCBC: https://www.theedgesingapore.com/capital/br...nd-fees-uob-kay
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No. I am not.
Only when i spot an opportunity to have a punt.
For eg the last was Accordia, when we all knew that the takeover was on and the price had not moved much.
Before that was Lippo at 12 cents... laugh.gif

Before that was the sell down in March. Sold 70% of my Reits and bought back in the lows. Almost made double up on my portfolio with that action.
Imagine IREIT sold 79 cents bought back at 0.47.
Sold EC World earlier as the Covid came into China. Bought back at 43 cents.
Sold Sasseur too. But did not buy back yet. A bit wary on retail malls at the moment.
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post Jul 14 2020, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 14 2020, 08:37 AM)
i think so too.

that's why i added more riverstone yesterday!
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Glove counters in Msia have gone so crazy that the mother shares and Short warrants are going up hand in hand! laugh.gif
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post Jul 15 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 15 2020, 02:34 PM)
i rec'd a screenshot of a broker's new restriction on UG, Riverstone and SG edevelopment.

online - can sell... but cannot buy, must call broker.

not good news...
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Designated counters. sad.gif
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post Jul 27 2020, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jul 27 2020, 04:52 PM)
UG... 1.76, +6%

riverstone... 3.42, +8%  rclxm9.gif
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Watching gold. rclxm9.gif
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post Oct 13 2020, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Oct 13 2020, 08:44 AM)
Ive been averaging down ES3 STI etf last few months. Finally now breakeven after dividend.

STI now biggest stock position in my portfolio.
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What's the reason for investing in STI ETF?

Do you think the index will move much higher in this climate?
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post Jan 11 2021, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 10 2021, 10:01 AM)
It's my main "pendemic recovery" position.

But yeah,, dividend wise should be between 4-5% in SGD.
Since this post in Oct last year, STI has been up  about 18%. Not too shitty I must say.
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Indeed. Do you receive a dividend with STI ETF?
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post Jan 11 2021, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Jan 11 2021, 09:37 AM)
Dividend is twice yearly. Feb and August. So I got the August one, since I started buying in batches from around SG election time.

Basically, it will be the dividends they receive from the 30 stocks distributed minus the fund management fees.
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The recent run up is probably due to the banking stocks having a nice uptick.

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