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Ramjade
post Jul 10 2017, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 10 2017, 03:11 PM)
Bro,... first-of-all,... are you looking at the right table ? That article in The Edge shows Hotung Investments to be at $2+, but the table here shows Hotung Inv to be a really penny-bit share, at $0.136,...

Secondly,.. I read that there are only 2 main, big shareholders holding the bulk of the shares, and the float is very small,... This is a major risk,... very easy for the big holders to 'fiddle' things,....

I read your other points abt not minding payouts being not consistent, etc,... ok,...
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Yikes. Saw the wrong one. doh.gif
This is the right one.

http://performance.morningstar.com/stock/p...p&culture=en-US
Ramjade
post Jul 13 2017, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 13 2017, 01:00 PM)
I think I will do like this,...

I have targetted IREIT Global after listening to the Privileged Conversation for Priority Clients last week.

Sell Croesus RT at 1.190, since this 1.190 will 'include' 2 qtrs of dpu estimated at 4.06 cts per unit. These 2 qtrs are for Jan till June, 2017.

With the above proceed, I will hop over to IREIT Global before the results for 2Q or 1H is announced sometime in August, 2017. My model is predicting a worst case dividend payout of 1.152 SG Cts per unit for each qtr moving forward. 1.152 SG Cts per qtr works out to be 4.608 SG Cts per qtr per year.

If my Buy Price is, at worst case, $0.765, my yield would be 6%.

This yield will not be able to compete with Croesus RT, but CRT is a dying breed,... IREIT could be a growing species,....

Would appreciate some opinions pls,.... tks, bros,...
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Wait for ireit to do rights issue. It's a matter of time as their gearing is already 40+%. They have no more room to borrow but will need to do rights. At that time, you can buy cheaply (SGrean investors don't really like rights issue)

If I am in your shoes, I wait for the rights issue first. Good things come to those who wait (most of the time)

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Ramjade
post Jul 14 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Jul 14 2017, 09:06 AM)
QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 13 2017, 02:47 PM)

Hans,

Countplus share price plummet 7 cents this morning. Any further bad news?

Make that 8 cents with hi volume of 670k shares
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What counter is countplus?
Ramjade
post Jul 17 2017, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 17 2017, 03:11 PM)
In the third qtr this year, Indonesian conglomerate plans to launch its USD800M business trust IPO, while AEP Commercial REIT plans to launch its USD200Mil IPO.

Foll article :-

HONG KONG VS SINGAPORE

Despite the strong start, some companies - such as gaming firm Razer - have chosen to list in Hong Kong, Singapore’s closest competitor in the region.
Not too long ago, homegrown Osim International delisted from the Singapore Exchange (SGX) and later sought a relisting on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange as V3.

But the move could simply be business strategy, KGI's Mr Ng pointed out, adding that doing so could mean better access to the greater China market.

“The Hong Kong market has an advantage because they are closer to China, and have a much bigger market in terms of the number of companies they have there,” he said. “Their market capitalisation is at least five times bigger than Singapore’s market, and they also have a deeper liquidity where turnover is five to 10 times bigger than Singapore’s market.”

But Mr Ng and Deloitte’s Dr Kan were quick to point out that Singapore also retains strengths in areas such as real estate investment trusts (REITs) and business trusts.

“The niche of the market depends on the stocks you attract. If I were to pick business trusts and REITs, Singapore is very strong; actually there are 40 REITs and business trusts listed on the SGX compared to about 15 in Hong Kong,” said Dr Kan.

He said at least two more REITs are expected to list in Singapore this year - Hainan Airlines and Sinar Mas.
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Hainan airlines and sinarmas is a reit?
Ramjade
post Jul 18 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 18 2017, 03:29 PM)
Nobody going in for KDC REIT and FREIT ?? Looks like no opinions and reactions here,....
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I want First REIT but too high the price. 1.27 will be just nice. So just see. Not buying...

I avoid anything keppel.
Ramjade
post Jul 19 2017, 09:13 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 19 2017, 09:08 AM)
M1 super gap down today....
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Abandoned by it's buyers, dividend cut, profit diwn + others (can't remember what). Combination of various bad news whack it badly.
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post Jul 19 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 19 2017, 11:02 AM)

So,... does this mean that Temasek can now step-in to consolidate 'them',.... ?
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Why would Temasek wants to consolidate them? There's no reason for it when it already owns Singtel. It's just redundant. It's not in public interest also to buy up/ merge m1/keppel t&t and SPH.

The only thing I can see is Temasek will buy up SPH to take it private as SPH is "the voice of the state"


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post Jul 19 2017, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 19 2017, 02:02 PM)
Bro,... why thinking of merging M1 with KTT and SPH ????? There's no meaning at all,... I'm talking abt merging with Starhub !
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They are main shareholders of M1. M1 merging with Starhub? Temasek is not even shareholder of Starhub. Besides I don't think Starhub have the cash to acquire M1.

Remember it's SG govt who open door to 4th telcom company. Merging M! and starhub would sort of undo the move of inviting the 4th telcom.

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post Jul 19 2017, 02:12 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 19 2017, 02:11 PM)
Bro is under-informed,... Temasek owns Starhub through a company called 'XX Media",... can't remember,... but yeah,... And Temasek does not own M1 directly,... you know how Temasek owns M1 ?
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The only way I can think of is through Keppel T&T since they are holder of Keppel. Yeah. Just googled and saw that you're right. blush.gif

Old but I think relevant news
http://statestimesreview.com/2017/04/22/te...ate-to-sell-m1/

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post Jul 19 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(bearbear @ Jul 19 2017, 03:26 PM)
netlink droping below ipo!!
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 19 2017, 03:39 PM)
And YES again,... and so, as I have commented during the bookbuild,... no need to despair if not allocated any units and given any placements earlier. Can buy even cheaper after listing,... let's see tomorrow on second day of listing !
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Luckily didn't buy. Was thinking whether can make quick buck or not. Mr IPO was what held me back from buying
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post Jul 19 2017, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 19 2017, 07:02 AM)
Another Keppel results.
Keppel T&T 2Q earnings nearly halved
https://www.theedgesingapore.com/keppel-tt-...-halved-103-mil

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post Jul 19 2017, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 19 2017, 08:22 PM)
u got any? or waiting for more drop?
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Dividend yield not nice.
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post Jul 20 2017, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(terrysoh @ Jul 20 2017, 12:39 AM)
very itchy on buying Netlink if it drops tmr, looks like a good prospect for dividend as well as growth, monopoly biz.
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Price set by govt. They cannot simply charge what they like. Yield too low.
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post Jul 20 2017, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(terrysoh @ Jul 20 2017, 10:48 AM)
Ramjade wont bother looking at anything below 7% dividend lol
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Actually I do. Singtel, MCT, CMT, FCpT.

Looking to add SATS when time is right.

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post Jul 20 2017, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 20 2017, 11:30 AM)
Actually Ramjade being young.. should consider GROWTH stocks.
Over time growth stocks will definately be more rewarding then to collecting DIV with no growth.
select few Growth stocks your $ will double up in 3 to 5 yrs time.

As your income will be growing over the years..its good to take some risk with higher rewards in this young age.
Collecting dividend is for old ppl like me.. coz I am at stage of capital conservation and need reduce risk.
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Nah I don't know how to pick growth stocks. Better I stick with dividend stocks. Easier for me. At least got free cash coming in every few months biggrin.gif
If want growth, I go UT.
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post Jul 20 2017, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 20 2017, 11:49 AM)
Netlink Trust units closed steady at their offer price on Wednesday, although analysts said the muted debut was not a surprise given the large size of the listing and that the outlook for Singapore’s IPO market remained positive.

The city-state has been previously pegged as the likely hot spot for IPOs in Southeast Asia in 2017 with sales of stakes in business and real estate investment trusts (REITs), as volatile currencies and weak investor sentiment curb deals elsewhere.

The $1.7 billion NetLink IPO, the largest in Singapore in four years and which has propelled listings in the country in terms of money raised to a multi-year high, is a shot in the arm for the Singapore Exchange (SGX) that has been trying to attract more big-ticket IPOs.

SGX is encouraged by the larger transactions done for this year and the potential listings due later this year, its head of equities and fixed income, Chew Sutat, said.

“We have already exceeded the total primary and secondary funds raised from last year. Beyond the REITs and business trusts, the consumer and healthcare sectors continue to do well,” he told Reuters.

In recent years, SGX has become an attractive destination for companies to list their global assets by way of REITS or business trusts, as yields of as much as 6-7 percent draw in strong participation from retail and institutional investors amid relatively low interest rates.

Australia’s Cromwell Property Group is aiming to launch a more than $1 billion Singapore REIT IPO later this year and has hired three banks so far, financial sources said.

The REIT will include a portfolio of European offices, industrial and office assets, giving investors access to a large European footprint. Cromwell declined to comment.

Following the NetLink offering, the total amount raised via IPOs in Singapore this year has already hit about $2 billion, Thomson Reuters data shows.

That is more than last year’s $1.7 billion and the highest since at least 2014 when companies raised $2.56 billion.

NetLink, the broadband unit of Singapore Telecommunications (Singtel), had offered 2.9 billion units in its IPO, at S$0.81 apiece, raising about S$2.3 billion.

The offering had been priced at the lower end of its indicative S$0.80-S$0.93 range.

“As a business trust, the future cashflow is predictable, so there is a lack of imagination on this kind of IPO,” said Margaret Yang, a market analyst at CMC Markets, Singapore.

Analysts said the size of the IPO had lowered the possibility of a price surge on the first day.

According to Thomson Reuters data, the NetLink IPO is the biggest since Mapletree Greater China Commercial Trust’s 2013 offering raised $2.06 billion.

NetLink rose to S$0.815 per unit before closing at S$0.810. Singtel owns 24.99 percent ofNetLink after the IPO.

Singapore is a major financial centre but the city-state’s only stock exchange has long experienced low trading volumes and weaker valuations compared with Hong Kong, which in turn has been a deterrent for companies seeking IPOs.

To counter this, the bourse is considering several measures, including looking at whether it should introduce dual-class share listings.

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Cromwell Property Trust - one of my favourite counters in the ASX ! Coming to SG soon,... it's a small world,....
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Come come. biggrin.gif No 30% with holding tax. Must buy. thumbup.gif
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post Jul 23 2017, 08:31 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 22 2017, 10:01 AM)
Right,... I'm hoping for this 28Mil to start wanting to sell at 80.5 Cts so that the price can drift down further. But,... events will take place accordingly, because if none of us wishes to buy at anything above 80 Cts, the price will have to drift down... Just a matter of when. WE continue to wait,.... after all, the dpu won't be released until,... probably May next year !
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We need to see how much reserves the stabilising managet have.

If the price drops, is the stabilising manager making money/making a loss?
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post Jul 23 2017, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(elea88 @ Jul 23 2017, 08:09 PM)
Just change some SGD at money changer...

15 june 17 - change at 3.09
10 jul 17 - become 3.107.

today 23 JUL 17 become.. 3.135!!!!...

I tot RM suppose to strengthen... so, how now?
is the SGD gonna be going up again???
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If you read the USD/MYR thread, you will know that RM "strengthen" means only against USD while weaken against all others. vmad.gif mad.gif bangwall.gif
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post Jul 24 2017, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Jul 24 2017, 12:56 AM)
That's right, bro,....  thumbsup.gif  So,... need to be very careful reading all this misleading statements from the Msian press.
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Actually I didn't notice about other currency until AVFAN mentioned. I only noticed that SGD was getting higher and higher after that brief low price period.

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post Jul 26 2017, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(nikazwa @ Jul 26 2017, 08:43 AM)
Hi guys..

I noticed that the recent singapore ipo made a strong debut upon listed and continues to perform well for such long time..this is obviously good for ipo applicant..my question is can we malaysian who has Singapore CDS apply their ipo ? If yes what are the procedures ?

Regard with thanks
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Already told you before already what. Get a CDP account. IPO can only be applied via cash account and not custodian account.

Malaysia CDS account tak laku tongue.gif

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