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TSYammieR6
post Nov 24 2006, 03:47 PM, updated 20y ago

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[cool.gif[COLOR=red]Hi , I'm getting a pentiumD with 533mhz FSB <INTEL = 133MHZ>

I plan on overclocking this proc to 3.Oghz for now , with future plans to somewhere around 3.8ghz.

FSB = 150
MULTIPLIER = 20


150x20= 3ghz

From my understanding , a DDRII533 should be more than enough for oc'ing it to

4GHZ = 200 <FSB> x 20 <MULTIPLIER>


A DDRII533 is 266mhz so should suffice..

OR NOT lol please advice


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post Nov 24 2006, 04:01 PM

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"i'm getting a pentium D" ....you mean u just bought this proc??or planning to get it??

wut mobo?

got better cooler?
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post Nov 24 2006, 04:15 PM

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Getting tomorrow biggrin.gif

Mobo is Asus P5ND2 SLI <Nforce4chipset>
Getting a zalman CNPS9700 HSF too.

I fully understand the other bits , just the RAM.
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post Nov 24 2006, 04:27 PM

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wut can i say....

i dunno your budget but...

C2D > AMD X2(AM2) > PENTIUM D...

C2D is so easy to oc(w good mobo)...e6300 can go to 3.** ghz....

AMD X2 is better than PentiumD in performance..on the other hand, X2 is cheaper...

are you going to build a new rig??

p/s: sorry..i think im off topic..just trying to express my 'IMHO'..

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post Nov 24 2006, 04:40 PM

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I chose to go with pentium D coz Intel seemed to be clearer for me in terms of Overclocking and it's limits. AMD i'm clueless lol

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post Nov 24 2006, 04:47 PM

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going back to my RAM question.

A DDR400 will support a Proc with 800mhz FSB , and will run at synch right?

So to get <for example> 4ghz from a pentiumD with 533mhz<133> FSB , i will need to "UP" it's FSB to 800mhz<200>and match it with a DDR400 or DDRII533<lowest DDRII>

yea?

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post Nov 24 2006, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(YammieR6 @ Nov 24 2006, 04:40 PM)
Oh yes here's another question , how do you overclock an AMD proc?

AMD = 200mhz FSB
mobo = supports DDR400

are there DDRII supported mobo's for AMD?

I chose to go with pentium D coz Intel seemed to be clearer for me in terms of Overclocking and it's limits. AMD i'm clueless lol
eventho its limit to 400mhz ..with good ram n good chipset n good psu n good cooler..you can push >400mhz for AMD and old P4...

yes..AMD got DDRII now..its using socket AM2..AMD X2 AM2 is the latest amd series..

how to overclock?? HERE it is

and feel free to browse to another oc thread...


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post Nov 24 2006, 05:09 PM

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thanx xenO , will look around.
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post Nov 24 2006, 09:09 PM

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So I basically get the performance of a dual core 38OOghz with the cheapest Athlon64x2 , haha i'm seriously converting to AMD now.
What's a good overclocking Mobo for the AM2 ? *OMG* At 2.5ghz it will rival the 48OO+ , WICKED :>

hey guys , what's a good overclocking board for under RM3OO

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post Nov 24 2006, 11:47 PM

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you should check it out the link i gave ya...it has AM2 mobo statistics...ask them there...
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post Nov 25 2006, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(YammieR6 @ Nov 24 2006, 09:09 PM)
So I basically get the performance of a dual core 38OOghz with the cheapest Athlon64x2 , haha i'm seriously converting to AMD now.
What's a good overclocking Mobo for the AM2 ? *OMG* At 2.5ghz it will rival the 48OO+ , WICKED :>

hey guys , what's a good overclocking board for under RM3OO
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get the DFI NF-M2..great board but slightly more than RM300
or oso u can get Biostar TForce 6100 AM2

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post Nov 25 2006, 03:28 AM

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thank you lots , decided on the AMD dualcore. cheers
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post Nov 27 2006, 11:39 AM

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yeah go for amd core rclxm9.gif
save ur money somemore than getting a c2d sweat.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 02:31 PM

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My plan precisely biggrin.gif , by the way i have a budget of RM3OO for a graphic card. which one is best?

Colourful 7300GT EXTREME 128MB
8 pipe line
128 BIT
500 Core clock
1500 memory clock

OR

Colourful 7300GT 256MB DDRII
8 pipe line
128 BIT
4OO Core clock
8OO memory clock

I asked around and everyone seems to recommend the "GT" version. and So far the Nvidia 7300 series "GT" fits my budget. If there are better alternatives , please recommend them to me.

Will the 128MB over 256MB make a big difference? If so , I should get the GC with more RAM but slightly less Core clock / mem clock?


Also , does more pipe line equals more performance <Frames per sec>?

For example :

Winfast 7300GT EXTREME 256DDR
12 pipe line
128 BIT
520 Core clock
1400 memory clock

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post Nov 27 2006, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(YammieR6 @ Nov 27 2006, 02:31 PM)
My plan precisely biggrin.gif , by the way i have a budget of RM3OO for a graphic card. which one is best?

Colourful 7300GT EXTREME 128MB
8 pipe line
128 BIT
500 Core clock
1500 memory clock

OR

Colourful 7300GT 256MB DDRII
8 pipe line
128 BIT
4OO Core clock
8OO memory clock

I asked around and everyone seems to recommend the "GT" version. and So far the Nvidia 7300 series "GT" fits my budget. If there are better alternatives , please recommend them to me.

Will the 128MB over 256MB make a big difference? If so , I should get the GC with more RAM but slightly less Core clock / mem clock?
Also , does more pipe line equals more performance <Frames per sec>?

For example :

Winfast  7300GT EXTREME 256DDR
12 pipe line
128 BIT
520 Core clock
1400 memory clock
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firstly i think there is 7300GT ddr3
so better go for dat one
coz ddr3 speed is much more higher than ddr2

of course if u can increase a bit of ur budget
go for the 7600gs or 7600gst
much better card wit 12 pipeline rclxms.gif
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post Nov 27 2006, 05:48 PM

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Get 7300GT 128Mb with DDR3 instead of DDR2

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QUOTE(YammieR6 @ Nov 27 2006, 02:31 PM)

Will the 128MB over 256MB make a big difference? If so , I should get the GC with more RAM but slightly less Core clock / mem clock?
Also , does more pipe line equals more performance <Frames per sec>?

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128MB vs 256Mb dont make much different.. but:
// memory bit rate does (exapmle: 256bit > 128bit)
// DDR3>DDR2
// 12PL>8PL

Core clock speed also important.. but u can OC the clock speed

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post Nov 27 2006, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(mruzian @ Nov 27 2006, 05:03 PM)
firstly i think there is 7300GT ddr3
so better go for dat one
coz ddr3 speed is much more higher than ddr2

of course if u can increase a bit of ur budget
go for the 7600gs or 7600gst
much better card wit 12 pipeline  rclxms.gif
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Arigato~ Colorful 7600GT 256MB DDR3 looks nice.

The card i'm getting is Colorful 73OOGT 256MB DDRII - RM290 <budget>

8Pipe line , 128Bit , 400core/800memory clock.

By duing simple mathematics , It beats the ATi X1600Pro

400x8= Fill Rate 3200 mega pixel / sec
8OOx{128/8{ = Memory bandwidth 128OO Megabyte/sec

Not bad right? It'll play Battlefield 2142 in Mid settings after my RAM upgrade.




I will get the Colorful 7600GT 256MB DDR3 - RM505 , next time haha.

Edit : Will getting a card with more core clock speed and less RAM <256vs128> increase performance? or decreaases it? lol can I susbstitute the lack of RAM on the graphic card...no lol never mind

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post Nov 27 2006, 06:57 PM

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7300gt 256mb ddr2 for 290? i suggest better get galaxy 7300gt 128mb ddr3 or winfast 7300gt extremt 128mb ddr3... they are around 300 only and should perform better...
im using 6600gt alrdy plying battlefield at high setting with medium shader... 7300 will be better ^^
btw... this is ram and fsb thread ler...
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post Nov 27 2006, 08:29 PM

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//OFF Topic//
why hardly see Pentium.D's OC board or discussion in OC united??
Im looking for it.
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post Nov 27 2006, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Nov 27 2006, 06:57 PM)
7300gt 256mb ddr2 for 290? i suggest better get galaxy 7300gt 128mb ddr3 or winfast 7300gt extremt 128mb ddr3... they are around 300 only and should perform better...
im using 6600gt alrdy plying battlefield at high setting with medium shader... 7300 will be better ^^
btw... this is ram and fsb thread ler...
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shocking.gif I thought 6600gt beats 73OO and 73OOGS and roughly the same as 73OOGT


What's the performance difference/boost in getting a DDR3 anyways? It's the memory bandwidth I'm guessing?



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post Nov 27 2006, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Vinci777 @ Nov 27 2006, 06:57 PM)
7300gt 256mb ddr2 for 290? i suggest better get galaxy 7300gt 128mb ddr3 or winfast 7300gt extremt 128mb ddr3... they are around 300 only and should perform better...
im using 6600gt alrdy plying battlefield at high setting with medium shader... 7300 will be better ^^
btw... this is ram and fsb thread ler...
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i'll get the winfast 7300gt extremt 128mb ddr3

any oppositions? icon_idea.gif tongue.gif


THank you lads thumbup.gif

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post Nov 29 2006, 06:19 AM

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i guess for 7300gt ddr3, it can boost the performance at least 20%...

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post Nov 30 2006, 12:59 PM

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sorry for hijacking...

using pentium d 805, ga-965p-ds3, corsair xms2 675MHz match pair (512mb x 2), xfx7900gt ddr3 256mb

set at
cpu: 175(fsb) x 20(multiplier) = 3.5GHz (v.core 1.31, v.mem 1.9)
gpu: 637MHz
gpu mem: 855MHz
ram: std, no idea wat to do..

3dmark05 = 8938..

any idea wat else to do to improve??? ram setting, voltage or cpu/gpu, bla bla bla???

all guru out ther, pls help..

 

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