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SKYjack
post Apr 22 2021, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Apr 21 2021, 07:39 AM)
Hi. Any comment on Valeo front brake pad for 408 1.6T. Does it produce significant amount of brake dust like original did? How's the braking performance compared with original pad?

Appreciate your input on this matter.
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Bro I believe Valeo is Peugeots original brake pads supplier, thats what i read sometime back. I've tried Valeo & presently on Melye. I notice 50% less brake dust with Melye. Same performance as original pads.
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post Apr 22 2021, 10:39 AM

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Just a word of caution to all bros here. Do not over run Oil change intervel! This can cause timmimg chain issues or even damage!

Due to MCO i could not get to my trusted workshop - Renautech. Hoping it will be lifted soon, waited. Hoever didnt realize my overrun had reached 1400km! During this time my engine developed a strange rattling sound during cold starts. It would only be for 2 sec & disappear.

As there does not seem to any sight of MCO lift, infact Covid 19 cases seem to be on the rise. I decided to service my car in Seremban itself. After service my engine is back nice & smooth. The cold start rattling is gone.

I believe the rattling was due to timming chain tensioner not taking up chain slack effectively, during cold starts. As a result ,slack chain hits its guide. The moment oil prssure builds up , tensioner come active to support timmimg chain, the sound stops.

In my case poor oil viscosity caused poor tensioner function. Oil viscosity changes with usage, thus not adviable to prolong service beyond recommendations.

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post Apr 23 2021, 07:39 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 22 2021, 10:39 AM)
Just a word of caution to all bros here. Do not over run Oil change intervel! This can cause timmimg chain issues or even damage!

Due to MCO i could not get to my trusted workshop - Renautech.  Hoping it will be lifted soon, waited. Hoever didnt realize my overrun had reached 1400km! During this time my engine developed a strange rattling sound during cold starts. It would only be for 2 sec & disappear.

As there does not seem to any sight of MCO lift, infact Covid 19 cases seem to be on the rise. I decided to service my car in Seremban itself. After service my engine is back nice & smooth. The cold start rattling is gone.

I believe the rattling was due to timming chain tensioner not taking up chain slack effectively, during cold starts. As a result ,slack chain hits its guide. The moment oil prssure builds up , tensioner come active to support timmimg chain, the sound stops.

In my case poor oil viscosity caused poor tensioner function. Oil viscosity changes with usage, thus not adviable to prolong service beyond recommendations.
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Just wondering which type of oil filter are you using? Purflux zigzag or normal straight pleat? I believe the rattle at cold start is due to slower lubricant flow due to clog filter.

The purflux zigzag type should allow higher higher oil change interval, provided if you are using the A358, which has loose pleat compared with A398.
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post Apr 23 2021, 08:04 AM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 22 2021, 10:13 AM)
Bro I believe Valeo is Peugeots original brake pads supplier, thats what i read sometime back. I've tried Valeo & presently on Melye. I notice 50% less brake dust with Melye. Same performance as original pads.
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Thanks.

50% more brake dust on Valeo brake pad is a lot. Seems like Valeo brake pad is a no for me.

408 1.6T original brake pad is ATE Galfer which I will avoid too due to brake dust. Can't deny their performance though.
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post Apr 23 2021, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Apr 23 2021, 07:39 AM)
Just wondering which type of oil filter are you using? Purflux zigzag or normal straight pleat? I believe the rattle at cold start is due to slower lubricant flow due to clog filter.

The purflux zigzag type should allow higher higher oil change interval, provided if you are using the A358, which has loose pleat compared with A398.
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Yes I am using the zigzag fillter. Filter clog could be a reason too. Yet aother reason not to extend oil change intervals. I will stick to recommended oil change intervels!

As for brake pads, originals can vary since Peugeot has a host of vendors in Europe.
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post Apr 27 2021, 10:25 AM

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Hi gaiss,

My car is showing ABS faulty error again. I was trying to use ELM32 OBD II to check the ABS faulty vame from which wheel. But i can't find any info from the diagnostic tool. Anyone know whether we can get the ABS faulty info from OBD II?

From the scan, i only found oxygen sensor faulty. Need to replace this or i can actually ignore it?





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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Apr 27 2021, 10:25 AM)
Hi gaiss,

My car is showing ABS faulty error again. I was trying to use ELM32 OBD II to check the ABS faulty vame from which wheel. But i can't find any info from the diagnostic tool. Anyone know whether we can get the ABS faulty info from OBD II?

From the scan, i only found oxygen sensor faulty. Need to replace this or i can actually ignore it?
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There are 2 OX sensors. Best to replace if more than 100kkm. These can cause high fc. If on budget, can get workshop to remove and clean it.

This ABS sensor defect is such a nuisance. I changed all 4 already. Now on 2nd round, last month changed front left. Peugeot needs to use better quality sensors. My Bimmer 13 years already, still running on original ABS sensor!
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post Apr 27 2021, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Apr 27 2021, 10:25 AM)
Hi gaiss,

My car is showing ABS faulty error again. I was trying to use ELM32 OBD II to check the ABS faulty vame from which wheel. But i can't find any info from the diagnostic tool. Anyone know whether we can get the ABS faulty info from OBD II?

From the scan, i only found oxygen sensor faulty. Need to replace this or i can actually ignore it?
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I try last time to read via the ELM32, it cant get any info.
So far i didnt manage to get OBD reader which can read my 408. (except x431)
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post Apr 27 2021, 03:26 PM

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Hi Peugeot bro,

Just bump into a Dongfeng Peugeot 1.6/2.0L wheel alignment specification sheet that shows preferred Front Right hand side camber angle being more negative than that of Left hand side (aka unbalanced camber angles at Front), which imo isn't quite suitable for our Malaysian road crowns.

Anyone here has a typical wheel alignment spec sheet (or a computer screenshot or printout from a local wheel alignment machine) for 'local' or imported Peugeot (of whatever models) to share indicating similarities or dissimilar ......

or any Peugeot owner here having experiencing vehicle veering left when driving straight ahead with factory specification esp when new?

I'm curious and btw I'm not a Peugeot owner.

This post has been edited by zeng: Apr 27 2021, 03:39 PM
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post Apr 27 2021, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Apr 27 2021, 11:49 AM)
I try last time to read via the ELM32, it cant get any info.
So far i didnt manage to get OBD reader which can read my 408. (except x431)
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Thanks for the share
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post Apr 27 2021, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(SKYjack @ Apr 27 2021, 11:09 AM)
There are 2 OX sensors. Best to replace if more than 100kkm. These can cause high fc. If on budget, can get workshop to remove and clean it.

This ABS sensor defect is such a nuisance. I changed all 4 already. Now on 2nd round, last month changed front left. Peugeot needs to use better quality sensors. My Bimmer 13 years already, still running on original ABS sensor!
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Will get the mechanic to check it out during the next car service
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post Apr 27 2021, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 27 2021, 03:26 PM)
Hi Peugeot bro,

Just bump into a Dongfeng Peugeot 1.6/2.0L wheel alignment specification sheet  that shows preferred Front Right hand side camber angle being more negative than that of Left hand side (aka unbalanced camber angles at Front), which imo isn't quite suitable for our Malaysian road crowns.

Anyone here has a typical wheel alignment spec sheet (or a computer screenshot or printout from a local wheel alignment machine) for 'local' or imported Peugeot (of whatever models) to share indicating similarities or dissimilar ......

or any Peugeot owner here having experiencing vehicle veering left when driving straight ahead with factory specification esp when new?

I'm curious and btw I'm not a Peugeot owner.
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If i can recalled correctly, steer to the left is the common issue shared by 408 owners. That was in Thread V1 or V2 if I'm not mistaken
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post Apr 28 2021, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Apr 27 2021, 11:49 AM)
I try last time to read via the ELM32, it cant get any info.
So far i didnt manage to get OBD reader which can read my 408. (except x431)
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Elm32 can only read engine related.

For abs/esp and transmission you will need something better. Launch X431 should work. I'm using a actia at the moment. Run both diagbox and pp2000.

For O2 sensor it should show you which is faulty, either upstream or downsteam. Pretty easy to replace.
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post Apr 28 2021, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Apr 28 2021, 12:28 AM)
Elm32 can only read engine related.

For abs/esp and transmission you will need something better. Launch X431 should work. I'm using a actia at the moment. Run both diagbox and pp2000.

For O2 sensor it should show you which is faulty, either upstream or downsteam.  Pretty easy to replace.
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I checked hfrom shoppee, there are variety of Launch X431. Would those below RM100 works?

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post Apr 28 2021, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Apr 28 2021, 12:46 AM)
I checked hfrom shoppee, there are variety of Launch X431. Would those below RM100 works?

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I remember those rm78 one would not read abs and transmission code. I think you will need this for bare minimum.






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post Apr 28 2021, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Apr 27 2021, 03:26 PM)
Hi Peugeot bro,

Just bump into a Dongfeng Peugeot 1.6/2.0L wheel alignment specification sheet  that shows preferred Front Right hand side camber angle being more negative than that of Left hand side (aka unbalanced camber angles at Front), which imo isn't quite suitable for our Malaysian road crowns.

Anyone here has a typical wheel alignment spec sheet (or a computer screenshot or printout from a local wheel alignment machine) for 'local' or imported Peugeot (of whatever models) to share indicating similarities or dissimilar ......

or any Peugeot owner here having experiencing vehicle veering left when driving straight ahead with factory specification esp when new?

I'm curious and btw I'm not a Peugeot owner.
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nope .. is straight
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post Apr 28 2021, 09:19 AM

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QUOTE(Pugbunny @ Apr 28 2021, 12:46 AM)
I checked hfrom shoppee, there are variety of Launch X431. Would those below RM100 works?

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the below rm100 one is not x431 .. is CR3001..
i have it and it is NOT work for my 408t ..
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post Apr 28 2021, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(therain01 @ Apr 28 2021, 12:28 AM)
Elm32 can only read engine related.

For abs/esp and transmission you will need something better. Launch X431 should work. I'm using a actia at the moment. Run both diagbox and pp2000.

For O2 sensor it should show you which is faulty, either upstream or downsteam.  Pretty easy to replace.
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wow .. mine to share more info regard actia ?
diagbox and pp2000 is install at laptop if not mistaken ..
been tot of that but i prefer something more easy .. sweat.gif
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post Apr 28 2021, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(djboycalvin @ Apr 28 2021, 09:21 AM)
wow .. mine to share more info regard actia ?
diagbox and pp2000 is install at laptop if not mistaken ..
been tot of that but i prefer something more easy ..  sweat.gif
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The so called "fake" actia selling in shopee is useable, with some feature "locked" due to the feature/software is locked to Peugeot service center personnel. You will still able to do testing, read code, pair keys, and many more. Some features such as programming, repair manual, service box are not available unless you have authorize service personnel ID and password.

Yes what you will need is a laptop with USB port that run in any 32 bits Windows. Installation CD is normally included in the "fake" actia. Those actia is selling really cheap now since when China seller flooded shopee and lazada. Good for DIYer like us indeed.
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QUOTE(therain01 @ Apr 28 2021, 09:40 AM)
The so called "fake" actia selling in shopee is useable, with some feature "locked" due to the feature/software is locked to Peugeot service center personnel. You will still able to do testing, read code, pair keys, and many more. Some features such as programming, repair manual, service box are not available unless you have authorize service personnel ID and password.

Yes what you will need is a laptop with USB port that run in any 32 bits Windows. Installation CD is normally included in the "fake" actia. Those actia is selling really cheap now since when China seller flooded shopee and lazada. Good for DIYer like us indeed.
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ok .. will do some research .. thanks ! icon_rolleyes.gif

 

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