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srm
post Nov 24 2006, 08:16 AM, updated 20y ago

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For those who have paid money and it is confirmed that money was received, It is very likely we can take serious action to such mishap. It is certain that putting up money to this kind of "business" activities is not as simple to solve in the court. But if we gang up not just the people here, combine with contacts that we have, very likely it can be done effectively.

I know officers in Bukit Aman and a few good lawyers, what we need now is a report for the police to start investigating. Slight chance there's no cost involved but If these guys are taking it to the court, for sure it will cost us something. How much exactly is not the point, just nail this guy first and get his face on the newspaper. Many people would love to get their hands on such trouble maker, sure can ask for support from Gov and NGO.

Please poll fast so that it's easy to start taking actions. If the total amount victim and cash involved are significant, I strongly suggest we take action. Unless poor support from everybody, then I'd say I don't want to waste time because of my RM 50 deposit.

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post Nov 24 2006, 10:21 AM

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This might be something or nothing. Either way, would serve each of us a good experience. I tried his number myself, bad luck.

The most logical time to take action is tomorrow if he failed to show up. Let's make this time to gather and share our experience regardless of things turning good or bad. Too bad for those not COD-ing it in KL.

If good I can start off my OC project. I heard many of you got interesting projects as well.

If bad, lets just get ourselves together and make a police report. After the police report is made, I can just forward it to people I trust in Bukit Aman so that they will accompany us to the bank and start investigating there.
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post Nov 24 2006, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(howeijie @ Nov 24 2006, 10:53 AM)
IF the con man get the stolen matric card and start to plan how to con people in LYN, how ?

Wat if the con man is another fella ? pretend be UKM student, making up story make people convince him.
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It's not the UKM card that will get him into trouble but the bank account and account holder(s).

Easier to handle than individual account. The company responsible for the money. It was an agreement that we give money in return for the promised goods. And both parties agreed. Individual account you can keep details in private, but company you will need to audit. Many parties would love to get their hands on this.

If say they got away with all the money, the account holder will be the second defendant. Blacklisted in the country. Cannot access any bank, take up loan, credit card. Not in a shoe you want to be. If he escapes out of the country, be in Interpol Database. Thats why con movies are very interesting to watch.

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post Nov 24 2006, 11:57 AM

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I've just spoken to a friend, one case where one can really get away is by shakehead.gif

using a deceased person account hahahahaha! shocking.gif

QUOTE(srm @ Nov 24 2006, 11:42 AM)
It's not the UKM card that will get him into trouble but the bank account and account holder(s).

Easier to handle than individual account. The company responsible for the money. It was an agreement that we give money in return for the promised goods. And both parties agreed. Individual account you can keep details in private, but company you will need to audit. Many parties would love to get their hands on this.

If say they got away with all the money, the account holder will be the second defendant. Blacklisted in the country. Cannot access any bank, take up loan, credit card. Not in a shoe you want to be. If he escapes out of the country, be in Interpol Database. Thats why con movies are very interesting to watch.
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post Nov 24 2006, 01:55 PM

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He is obviously smart and have this planned this long time ago.

We can't outrun him now with the money as you guys bank-in daysss ago. The most appropriate course of action is to collect as much evidence as possible e.g. transaction reciept, conversation recording etc.

If you'd ask me, I just hold back until the time to expire. The plan of what's next if things turn bad is very simple, we decide on our meeting tomorrow.
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post Nov 24 2006, 02:50 PM

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One of you please make a copy of the thread. Using offline browser or something cuz I dont have.

It has been too late to do anything for us to gain anything back. The point that we need this poll is to see how serious we are. I paid only RM50, on personal basis its wasting my time to hunt. It's a lot of work and you might not get a single cent but have to pay more.
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post Nov 24 2006, 04:44 PM

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I understand there are lots of hormones involved here. Its typical reaction lah. The one tak kena also still want to kasi hangat the whole taik. Still I believe the time to react is tomorrow, which is the time we can safely say, total lost. There are possibilities that this guy will turn up. For con-men, it is big mistake to use company account to accumulate money. Understand this, the bank, maxis, lawyers, even your father, nobody will give a damn to those who kena unless the victims themselves do something seriously smart.

Girls and Boys, for those kena at significant value, tomorrow afternoon we meet, I want to have lunch first. Then we talk about all this once and for all. For sure guys, we start bald, then the investigation leads to something hairy. I rather not be involve too much, no money to spend, better find tribunal for FOC or cheap legal assistant.

For those kena or tak kena, hold your horses. You want to start with the police report, nobody will stop you. As for now, RM6k plus wont get him too far. But at least this guy deserve something fair.

If you act now, what exactly are you able to do? I can just find some officers, dont think we can have warran tangkap immediately since we cant positively identify this guy. Bottom line is, lets see what unfair advantage we can put to use immediately and tomorrow we line them up.

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post Nov 24 2006, 05:01 PM

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I hope the bank office is still working tomorrow. One with contacts with bank, we gotta move once we have police report.

For those doing the research, if we can relate this guy activities to other occurrence might open up new windows. How convince each of you think it is 100% a con case?
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post Nov 24 2006, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(keta @ Nov 24 2006, 05:02 PM)
Hi srm, how about at least for now, we gather together all the buyer detail like their contact no and so? Cause i dun think most will be able to be there tomorrow, like me which are not somewhere even near kl.

Possible if i pass my mobile contact no to you, hopefully you guys can update us on wat happen during tomorrow?
I wish not to be the one making calls and SMS news. Might be you can ask some wealthier member to help us break the news to ones that are out of range.

Rather you can stick to threads here. We wont be far.

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post Nov 24 2006, 06:03 PM

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Moderator PMed. He'll advice me, you guys run the show. Do whats good for all.

QUOTE(almostthere @ Nov 24 2006, 05:43 PM)
To the thread starter, please do be understanding that this is a sales sub section. By right this should be placed under the trade resolution corner. I'd suggest that you close this thread and start a new one or alternatively PM a moderator to move this thread to the appropriate section. At least such disputes would be better served and not to mention help to inform others who would have a look at there in cases of dispute
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post Nov 24 2006, 06:13 PM

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QUOTE(nick_drake @ Nov 24 2006, 05:38 PM)
is it better to have multiple police reports of the same case? or better to have many ppl lodge 1 case?

A lawyer/legal service? i really do not have the sources, but as what SRM said, it wld be best to lodge it with a lawyer who can get the point across. one more thing, will any Consumer Rights Association help us?

i know the more time we sit here and not make the report, the harder it might be to track him down. but we have to lay out our plans first now.

ok. from now, i'll be the one making records of this thread, and summarising the progress so its easier to refer.
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Report can be done individually because you need to explain your side of story, and end up with one single case file for police. Definitely need a lawyer to stand up as a collective which is the best option in my opinion like those asking for developer to get their house done. Obviously either way also ok, wont cause us problem. We need to ensure that we can move as a team and contribute collectively to this case.

Any of you guys are lawyer ? Appointing lawyer not cheap. Tribunal is another good option. but no guarantee lah. Consumer Right Association? Oh man I hope we are dealing with a registered and genuine business for these people to get interested.

Any of you who wish to lodge police report today, I can accompany you. But make sure in KL lah. How fast, I cant guarantee anything man, its the lower ranks that does the job.

Record the other thread as well lah. This thread is just a poll lah. Soon will move or extinguish.

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post Nov 24 2006, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(irangan @ Nov 24 2006, 07:33 PM)
guys, is better to discuss about this in this THREAD

created by chen9wei since it is quite confirm that it is a con case. sorry to say that sad.gif
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Let chen9wei handle it. I don't have the time to get all over this. Tomorrow, after the result either i'm happy with the stuffs or we'll get the police report and some actions straight away.

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post Nov 25 2006, 12:48 AM

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Hello Guys, as for now onward, please refer to thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=372498
as I will be posting updates on that particular thread.

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