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TSchienx
post Sep 17 2015, 06:20 AM, updated 9y ago

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Any one hav info about PhD in edu for oversea u/ local college? To do it part time or attend weekend classes if local college.
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post Sep 17 2015, 06:36 AM

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back in my day, we call it arts
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post Sep 17 2015, 07:11 AM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 17 2015, 06:20 AM)
Any one hav info about PhD in edu for oversea u/ local college? To do it part time or attend weekend classes if local college.
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What specific area? You need to find a potential supervisor to begin with. Then narrow down to the knowledge domain that you'd want to pursue.

PhD no class. It's pure research.
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post Sep 21 2015, 10:04 AM

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AeU / OUM in Malaysia
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post Sep 21 2015, 08:30 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 17 2015, 07:11 AM)
What specific area? You need to find a potential supervisor to begin with. Then narrow down to the knowledge domain that you'd want to pursue.

PhD no class. It's pure research.
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In education or management.
Is there any Doc degree that come with mix mode?
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post Sep 21 2015, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 21 2015, 08:30 PM)
In education or management.
Is there any Doc degree that come with mix mode?
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Nope. PhD - Doctor of Philosophy. Means you reach the ability to be an independent researcher. Able to conduct / spearhead a research on your own.

Pre PhD class such as research method, critical literature review, etc normally a must within certain uni (e.g. UPM that I know of). It's NOT the PhD study yet whistling.gif It's just a preparation classes for you to embark the journey.

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post Sep 21 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 21 2015, 08:30 PM)
In education or management.
Is there any Doc degree that come with mix mode?
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If you want a "mix-mode" type for doctoral level, you can look up at DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) or EdD (Doctor of Education).

If you have to attend classes, do assignments, and the final component is a thesis. Some DBAs even require you to do real-life consultation.
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post Sep 22 2015, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Sep 21 2015, 09:00 PM)
If you want a "mix-mode" type for doctoral level, you can look up at DBA (Doctor of Business Administration) or EdD (Doctor of Education).

If you have to attend classes, do assignments, and the final component is a thesis. Some DBAs even require you to do real-life consultation.
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Any EdD course in Malaysia?or DBA from local college tat link with oversea uni?

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post Sep 22 2015, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 22 2015, 12:14 AM)
Any EdD course in Malaysia?or DBA from local college tat link with oversea uni?
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I think you have to find that out yourself because I don't know the courses offered by each individual university.
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post Sep 22 2015, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Sep 22 2015, 12:17 AM)
I think you have to find that out yourself because I don't know the courses offered by each individual university.
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In the process of searching adi..
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post Sep 22 2015, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 22 2015, 01:19 PM)
In the process of searching adi..
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there is no short cut to find the info that only you yourself know what you want.
Especially you are talking about PhD research degree.
re-search means search and search...
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post Sep 23 2015, 08:18 AM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Sep 22 2015, 10:14 PM)
there is no short cut to find the info that only you yourself know what you want.
Especially you are talking about PhD research degree.
re-search means search and search...
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Ya I aware about this. Just in case anyone of you have this to share as extra resource. Already contacted and liase with few source earlier and in d process of identify which to go.smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2015, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(chienx @ Sep 23 2015, 08:18 AM)
Haha
Ya I aware about this. Just in case anyone of you have this to share as extra resource. Already contacted and liase with few source earlier and in d process of identify which to go.smile.gif
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No problem. I am now with Monash Sunway.
You may try other private Uni such as Nottingham, Taylor U, Sunway U, unirazak, and etc.
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post Apr 8 2016, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Sep 17 2015, 07:11 AM)
What specific area? You need to find a potential supervisor to begin with. Then narrow down to the knowledge domain that you'd want to pursue.

PhD no class. It's pure research.
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How come this has class? No standard?
https://mgmt.wharton.upenn.edu/programs/phd/phd-curriculum/

http://www.hbs.edu/doctoral/areas-of-study...es/default.aspx

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post Apr 8 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Apr 8 2016, 09:53 AM)
That normally to prepare you towards the research that you'll be doing. Some uni do have compulsory class like in UPM. Some don't. That class doesn't count towards your PhD awards. It's compulsory to pass / attend to proceed the PhD study. Weird eh... heheheh

For example, in US, normally you have to attend and pass a year worth of class before you will be admitted as PhD student. Before that state, you're just PhD candidate. Anybody can be PhD candidate, but not everyone can be PhD student.

In Australia, normally you don't have viva (oral exam), just submit your thesis to be examined.

Different uni / country have different flavour of how the PhD is being conducted. rclxub.gif


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post Apr 8 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(haturaya @ Apr 8 2016, 12:08 PM)
That normally to prepare you towards the research that you'll be doing. Some uni do have compulsory class like in UPM. Some don't. That class doesn't count towards your PhD awards. It's compulsory to pass / attend to proceed the PhD study. Weird eh... heheheh

For example, in US, normally you have to attend and pass a year worth of class before you will be admitted as PhD student. Before that state, you're just PhD candidate. Anybody can be PhD candidate, but not everyone can be PhD student.

In Australia, normally you don't have viva (oral exam), just submit your thesis to be examined.

Different uni / country have different flavour of how the PhD is being conducted.  rclxub.gif
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well American programs are generally longer than other English system.
generally its 2 yr worth of classes... one need to pass those class with a min of B or 80% and sit of qualifying exam. passing the exams from those classes does not automatically get U there.

oral exam in most case is just a formality even its done for most parts of the world.

in most case submit thesis and be done.
better uni expects thesis to be publish on a big international platform, then one can submit thesis.. in this case the submission is more formality. others is submit and prof felt its publishable quality then get it publish very optional.
depending on Prof there maybe a expectation on publication b4 submitting a thesis too, its very complex.. really depends on Prof in the states.

yes diff countries has very diff req. our Queen system generally easier and shorter.
then again when a student is done, does it look good with a thesis or someone with a couple or dozen of publications.
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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Apr 8 2016, 10:42 PM)
well American programs are generally longer than other English system.
generally its 2 yr worth of classes... one need to pass those class with a min of B or 80% and sit of qualifying exam. passing the exams from those classes does not automatically get U there.

oral exam in most case is just a formality even its done for most parts of the world.

in most case submit thesis and be done.
better uni expects thesis to be publish on a big international platform, then one can submit thesis.. in this case the submission is more formality. others is submit and prof felt its publishable quality then get it publish very optional.
depending on Prof there maybe a expectation on publication b4 submitting a thesis too, its very complex.. really depends on Prof in the states.

yes diff countries has very diff req. our Queen system generally easier and shorter.
then again when a student is done, does it look good with a thesis or someone with a couple or dozen of publications.
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So, you have your PhD as well? If you have, which system did you finish up with? Just wondering... thumbup.gif
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post May 6 2016, 10:49 PM

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Malaysian/ local PhD and EdD relatively cheap. How about quality?
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post May 7 2016, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(yashin @ May 6 2016, 10:49 PM)
Malaysian/ local PhD and EdD relatively cheap. How about quality?
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Quality in terms of?

No doubt, the ranking of the local public universities are lower compared to foreign universities (I meant the top tier foreign universities). It's even worst for the local private universities.

Quality of supervision depends on the supervisors. You can get hardworking/competent supervisors or lazy/incompetent supervisors. Don't be surprised that you could meet lazy/incompetent supervisors even in a foreign university.

So, choose your supervisor wisely.

I have seen local thesis being written more rigorously compared to thesis found from foreign universities. So, the quality also depends on the students themselves.

Another thing is the library resource. I notice that foreign universities have wider access to online library resources.

Assuming other factors are equal, it all boils down to the university ranking.

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