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James831
post Oct 9 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 9 2015, 04:53 PM)
Not just expensive, it's obscenely expensive.

Even when rich US allies like UK, Japan & SK that were 'ínvited' into the project have shoveled enormous amounts of money into its development, the costs are still climbing up ($1.3 trillion (Overall including inflation), US$59.2B for development, $261B for procurement, $590B for operations & sustainment in 2012) and yet the plane still has a long way to go until it's even remotely battle-ready.
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How about the PAK FA program ? relatively less expensive?

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QUOTE(thpace @ Oct 9 2015, 04:54 PM)
Indian version is the two seater which really appeal to us
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Currently projected price per unit is about $100 million USD (F-35C), not including the engine. So $100 Million USD gets you a high-tech paperweight. laugh.gif

Forget it la.
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QUOTE(James831 @ Oct 9 2015, 04:58 PM)
How about the PAK FA program ? relatively less expensive?
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PAK FA is still early in its development compared to F-35, so not that much spent. India agreed to shoulder 25% of development cost in return for 250 units (Russia will take another 250). Although projected cost as of now is somewhat similar compared to F-35, in the region of $ 90-100 million USD per unit (but with engine though).
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Iran loses top commander helping Assad in Syria

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Iran said Friday that one of its senior military officers, Quds Force commander Gen. Hossein Hamedani, was killed in Syria. He was officially in the country as an advisor to Syrian President Bashar Assad's forces, but was also reportedly commanding Iranian troops fighting alongside the Syrian regime in the war against rebel groups.

Officials said earlier this week that it was senior Iranian military officials who worked with Moscow to plot a course in Syria to keep Assad in power, convincing the Russians to dramatically increase their involvement in the grinding four-plus-year conflict which has already claimed more than a quarter of a million lives.

Iranian state television reported Hamedani was killed in the suburbs of Aleppo, in northern Syria, while "carrying out an advisory mission," but didn't provide any further details.


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-quds-forc...ce-russia-isis/
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post Oct 9 2015, 05:57 PM

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In Syria, the Loyalist Offensive Begins

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The rebels are at a disadvantage in the fight because they lack air defense weaponry. They also have few means with which to counter Russian or loyalist rocket and artillery fire. However, the rebels can continue to heavily rely on their anti-tank guided missiles and defensive acumen to slow down the loyalist forces in a battle of attrition. The rebels are also expecting further shipments of weapons and equipment from their foreign patrons, especially Turkey and the Gulf Arab states, and they may receive man-portable air-defense systems (MANPADS) that would prove useful against low-flying aircraft and helicopters.

One of the most interesting aspects of the conflict is Russia's weaponry. From Oct. 5-6, four vessels of the Russian Caspian Flotilla fired 26 land attack cruise missiles — 3M-14 Kalibr missiles, codenamed "Sizzler" by NATO, to be exact. It was Russia's first use of land attack cruise missiles fired from the sea in an active operational setting. Since Russian aircraft could have just as easily struck many of the targeted areas with less expense, the use of the land attack missiles was likely meant, at least in part, to be a symbolic demonstration of force to showcase Russia's military capabilities. Because the missiles traversed Iranian and Iraqi airspace, with their permission, before striking their targets in Syria, the attack also emphasizes the positive relationship Russia has established with some of Syria's neighbors.


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At the same time, both Iran and Hezbollah reportedly are sending forces to northern Syria; Iran alone has deployed at least a few hundred troops, and Stratfor sources indicate their ranks will eventually reach some 2,000 personnel.

As Russia and Iran mobilize in support of the al Assad government, Turkey, Jordan, Gulf Arab states and the United States are preparing to bolster the Syrian rebels with further supplies of weaponry and equipment. Most notably, the United States has backed a new push against the Islamic State in Syria that aims to secure the remaining Islamic State-occupied areas on the Syria-Turkey border while threatening the group's de facto capital, Raqqa. Washington insists that these plans have been in the works since before Russia's latest intervention in Syria, but it is clear that Moscow's activities will only provide additional impetus for the U.S.-backed rebel offensive.

The rebel attack on Raqqa will rely heavily on the 20,000-strong Kurdish People's Protection Units (YPG) in northeastern Syria and on the 5,000 Syrian Arab fighters in the area, including those in the Euphrates Volcano group who have long fought alongside the Kurds against the Islamic State. By boosting its supplies to (and its support for) the Kurdish factions and their Arab allies, the United States risks alienating Turkey, which views the YPG with considerable animosity and suspicion. However, Ankara will be pleased with the second phase of the rebel offensive, which entails a combined U.S. and Turkish effort to back and supply a Syrian rebel push against the Islamic State's remaining positions on the Turkish border. While this part of the strategy has been planned for a long time, its execution is drawing near as the United States and Turkey finalize the details and recover from setbacks relating to the failure of the New Syrian Forces program.


https://www.stratfor.com/analysis/syria-loy...ffensive-begins

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 9 2015, 05:51 PM)
C-grip dah berjangkit kat askar Malaysia..hahahah

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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 9 2015, 05:51 PM)
C-grip dah berjangkit kat askar Malaysia..hahahah

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much better...
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post Oct 9 2015, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 9 2015, 04:53 PM)
Not just expensive, it's obscenely expensive.

Even when rich US allies like UK, Japan & SK that were 'ínvited' into the project have shoveled enormous amounts of money into its development, the costs are still climbing up ($1.3 trillion (Overall including inflation), US$59.2B for development, $261B for procurement, $590B for operations & sustainment in 2012) and yet the plane still has a long way to go until it's even remotely battle-ready.
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US $ 1.3 trillion is the estimated lifetime costs of the 2,400 planned US F-35s. This is inclusive of purchase (flyaway) cost, planned maintenance, service and support and allowing for upgrades too. The quoted cost will be the same for all F-35s worldwide, estimated at US $530m per fighter.

Canada's estimate of F-18 Super Hornet lifetime costs is CAD 634m or US $486m each - only US $50m less. Canada will not buy either the F18 Super or F35.

UK's estimate of Eurofighter Typhoon lifetime costs is GBP 420m or USD 643m each.

The F-35 figures are independently confirmed by the Canadian and UK Govts. All figures are based on respective Govts' publicly available data.

Dassault Rafale F3s quoted to India, France and Qatar are USD 290-300m each. This doesn't include the full support program which India's defense minister claimed is the same as Eurofighter and higher than F-18 Super.

I couldn't find reliable Soviet aircraft data, but if the Indians are looking West it can't be very much less than Western aircraft.

Don't buy too much into the anti-JSF hype bros smile.gif

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post Oct 9 2015, 10:28 PM

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Russian airstrikes kill 2 ISIS commanders, 300 militants – Defense Ministry

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Russian air forces carried out 67 sorties, striking 60 separate targets in northern Syria in the past 24 hours, the Defense Ministry has reported. Two senior Islamic State field commanders are reportedly among some 300 militants killed in the strikes.

“Among the targets are the communication hubs, command posts, fuel stores and terrorist training bases located located in Raqqa, Latakia, Idlip, Aleppo and Hama,” said deputy chief of staff Lieutenant-General Igor Makushev, in a Moscow media briefing.



Makushev said that drone footage verified that a precision hit destroyed the headquarters of Liwa-al-Haqq, an Islamist group, which has been fighting the government of Bashar Assad since 2012. Russia said that a radio intercept confirmed the deaths of 200 fighters, and two commanders, who Makushev said belonged to Islamic State.

Another 100 Islamists were killed in an airstrike near Aleppo, in which Russian Sukhoi jets destroyed a base and armaments store housed in a former prison.

In total the airstrikes destroyed six communication hubs, six armories, 17 training bases and 17 armored vehicles, the Russian official said.

“The militants are sustaining significant losses from the airstrikes, and are having to adjust their tactics, spreading out over a wider area, concealing themselves more thoroughly, or hiding in urban settlements,” Makushev said.

“In these conditions, the Russian air forces are continuing and intensifying their airstrikes.”

https://www.rt.com/news/318122-russian-military-syria-isis/
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Russian airstrikes kill 2 ISIS commanders, 300 militants – Defense Ministry




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Now on Sale: China Set to Export New Fifth Generation Fighter Jet

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In a recent report, China Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC) revealed some tactical and technical characteristics of the J-31 Gyrfalcon fighter at the last air show in Beijing.

Li Yuhai, deputy general manager of AVIC, told reporters in November, “Since the start of the J-31's development, we have planned to use the plane to end some foreign nations' dominance of the fifth-generation fighter jet. One of its variants will be specifically designed for export,” Chinese media reported.

Export of the J-31 would be a breakthrough for China's aviation industry because the plane would give AVIC a substantial boost in competition with Western defense aircrafts.

The J-31 has a combat range of 1,200km and a top speed of 2,205 km/h. The fifth-generation fighter jet also has a maximum payload capacity of 8 metric tons and service span of 30 years.

Xu Bangnian, a professor at the PLA Air Force Command Institute, said he expected international demand for the plane as it seemed to be the only choice for developing countries who are interested in an affordable fifth-generation stealth aircraft.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151009/1...n-aircraft.html
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post Oct 9 2015, 10:43 PM

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Russia's military overall is inferior to the USA but Russia can dominate regions

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The U.S. spends nearly 10 times more than Russia on national defense. The U.S. operates 10 aircraft carriers; Russia has just one. And the U.S. military maintains a broad technological edge and a vastly superior ability to project power around the world.

Russia is now developing some key technologies, new fighting tactics and a brazen geopolitical strategy that is aggressively undermining America's 25-year claim to being the only truly global superpower. The result: Russia is unexpectedly re-emerging as America's chief military rival.

At least locally, Russia has the potential to generate superior forces.

Russia has preserved, even modernized, its own "triad" with nuclear-tipped intercontinental ballistic missiles, a large fleet of long-range strike aircraft and increasingly sophisticated nuclear-armed submarines.

There are specific conventional areas where the Russians excel — among them aircraft, air defenses, submarines, and electronic warfare.

China today spends more on defense annually than Russia, but still imports platforms and advanced weaponry from Russia.

Russia's airspace also is heavily fortified. The quality of Russia's stealth aircraft is far weaker than those of the U.S., but Russia has cutting-edge anti-stealth systems, and also has invested heavily in robust surface-to-air missile systems and arrayed its forces domestically to protect its border regions

NBF- Russia can protect its airspace and borders and can project dominant power a thousand miles from its borders. Russia has over ten times the military that the US faced in the Iraq wars.

http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/10/russias-m...nferior-to.html
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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Oct 9 2015, 08:00 PM)
much better...
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Much better in what sense??? Looks awkward and funny thing rarely see arms forces using it except civilian shooters
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Now on Sale: China Set to Export New Fifth Generation Fighter Jet

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In a recent report, China Aviation Industry Corporation (AVIC) revealed some tactical and technical characteristics of the J-31 Gyrfalcon fighter at the last air show in Beijing.
Li Yuhai, deputy general manager of AVIC, told reporters in November, “Since the start of the J-31's development, we have planned to use the plane to end some foreign nations' dominance of the fifth-generation fighter jet. One of its variants will be specifically designed for export,” Chinese media reported.
Export of the J-31 would be a breakthrough for China's aviation industry because the plane would give AVIC a substantial boost in competition with Western defense aircrafts.
The J-31 has a combat range of 1,200km and a top speed of 2,205 km/h. The fifth-generation fighter jet also has a maximum payload capacity of 8 metric tons and service span of 30 years.
Xu Bangnian, a professor at the PLA Air Force Command Institute, said he expected international demand for the plane as it seemed to be the only choice for developing countries who are interested in an affordable fifth-generation stealth aircraft.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151009/1...n-aircraft.html
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J-31 good for RMAF, value for money, price estimated at usd 60-70 million each.
air frame have 6,000-8000 hrs lifespan. good to use 30 year, come with there own new WS13 engine which have estimated 2,000 hrs lifespan.
just politically hard for accept china top range product.

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BAE Systems touts 3D battlefield vision technology

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Keep your head up, eyes out and your finger on the trigger with this new breakthrough that provides a see-through display of critical mission data - all by just clipping BAE System’s Q-Warrior to your helmet.

Once the stuff of movies like “Iron Man” and “Edge of Tomorrow”…now ground troops can benefit from this state-of-the-art tech too.

The lightweight Q-Warrior is a new cutting-edge gadget that takes an ordinary warrior’s helm


http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/10/08/bae...technology.html
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• Janes reported  that Indonesia is in talks with French shipyard DCNS over the possible sale of a Scorpene 1000 diesel-electric submarine, despite reports  that the country’s parliament approved the acquisition of Russian-built Kilo-class boats in September. The Indonesian defense ministry is thought to be considering a purchase of five Russian subs , with the Indonesian Navy currently operating two South Korean-manufactured submarines, with another two on order. The littoral capabilities of the French design may be the reason for a split purchase, with the Russian boats intended for use in deep water. DCNS signed a partnership agreement with Indonesian shipyard PT Pal in November , which included marketing of the Scorpene 1000.

• Meanwhile, Lockheed Martin is marketing  the company’s F-16V to Indonesia as the country plans to replace its fleet of aging F-5E fighters. The company dispatched a cockpit demonstrator to the country this week in an effort to swoon the country’s Air Force chiefs, who appear particularly set on acquiring the Sukhoi Su-35. The Indonesian Air Force already operates 24 F-16s, with deliveries of these beginning last July.

• The Indian Defence Ministry has shortlisted  the Samsung Techwin K-9 Thunder  howitzer for the country’s self-propelled tracked gun requirement, a much-delayed competition thought to value approximately $800 million. One hundred guns are required for the Indian Army, with local firm Larson & Toubro partnering with the South Korean firm to offer manufacturing in India. The Thunder beat the Russian-designed MSTA-SP 2S19 howitzer mounted on a T-72 tank chassis, with the Russian bid partnering with the Indian state-run Ordnance Factory Board to satisfy offset requirements.


http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/31303-031303/


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The Newest Army Helicopter Is An Incredible War Machine

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The United States Army is set to display the newest Army helicopter the Association of the United States Army exhibition Oct. 12, and people will be able to get a full view of America’s newest war machine. The S-97 Raider, built by Sikorsky, is a multi-role attack helicopter, according to UPI.

The S-97 Raider is unique for several reasons, including the fact that it has been developed with both vertical flight and forward speed capabilities. Building helicopters usually demands that the manufacturer choose between vertical flight or forward speed capabilities, but Sikorsky managed to find a way to include both. In 2010, a prototype of the helicopter unofficially broke the speed record for a helicopter.



Sikorsky Director of Advanced Military Programs Steve Engebretson has said that the display at the AUSA will be the first time a helicopter with this technology has ever been officially displayed saying, “The aircraft has exceeded our expectations in early flight testing, affirming the technology and its potential for executing the future missions of armed reconnaissance, special operations, and light attack or assault. For our customers who haven’t seen the aircraft in person yet, we think it will help to give them a hands-on experience with the RAIDER aircraft, bringing them closer to envisioning the possibilities that are becoming reality.”

The S-97 Raider can carry up to six troops at a time while being armed with unspecified weapons.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/10/09/the-newe...-machine-video/
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The Tomahawk Used its Own Camera to Find and Destroy a Target

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The Tomahawk missile has demonstrated a new ability to use its on-board camera to take a picture of a potential target, send it to a command center and then loiter until instructed to destroy that target, Raytheon officials told Scout Warrior.

The technology was used in a test-firing of a Tomahawk recently launched off a Navy surface ship off the coast of California, Chris Sprinkle, Raytheon Tomahawk program manager, told Scout Warrior in an interview.

“We are taking advantage of the capability that is already in the weapon. It took a picture of a target area and sent it to a controller. The controller selected the target out of the photo and gave those coordinates to the weapon,” Sprinkle said.

During the Navy-Raytheon test-firing, photos from the missile were sent from the ocean off the Southern California coast to a command center all the way in Bahrain in the Middle East, Sprinkle explained.

“Controllers at the 5th fleet in Bahrain were controlling a large number of Tomahawks,” he added.
The weapon used its data-link to send photos to the command center while the Tomahawk loitered near a potential target, Sprinkle said. The Tomahawk was used to destroy a mobile missile threat during the test, Raytheon officials said.

“We flew a Tomahawk over the island and took a picture at a specific point to say is there a target there. That information was sent back via bi-directional data link to a controller in Bahrain. They evaluated and said yes there is a target. They processed the coordinates for that target and passed those coordinates back to the weapon,” Sprinkle explained.

The Tomahawk then went off into a holding pattern and waited for instruction, he added.
“The weapon was instructed to go attack the target that was in the photo. This is a pretty awesome use of the weapon,” he added. Raytheon officials say this technology is now operational and deployable.
The Tomahawk’s camera can also be used for battle damage assessments.


http://www.scout.com/military/warrior/stor...mera-for-target
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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Oct 9 2015, 05:51 PM)
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Ridiculous fad. You get better ergonomics and stability by using the vertical grip. Plus the hand keep blocking the front sight. laugh.gif

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