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post Dec 2 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 2 2015, 02:58 PM)
The scaneagle is actually used by the army via DRB
so the experience is there, maybe there is another reason they chose the thales
nanti modern war"fair" expert mati meroyan
They offered, seems like we are not really keen on it
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Sigh y not ambik je. It is not like we have the money but new stuff.
If it were me it will ask for 100bijik.
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post Dec 2 2015, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Dec 2 2015, 03:22 PM)
looks like the MMEA refuse to share with Army
even though they just can order new ones from DRB
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I meant the m109 sph
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post Dec 2 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(SuperGampang @ Dec 2 2015, 03:44 PM)
The reality is everyone need isis. 

Assad and the gang need isis to blow his opposition to kingdom come and sec war with sunni under fighting terrorism flag

Turkey need for oil money to down assad and syiah sec

West need to justify military spending

Arab need for sec war with syiah. 

And people keep asking why thet so resilient
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West does not need Isis to justify military spending.
They even spit tons of bs in buying f35 but they never include Isis inside those bs.
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post Dec 2 2015, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 2 2015, 04:00 PM)
how about using sulu threat in malaysia, so can justify buying MPA, MRSS, MBT, Attack helicopter,Amry transport helicopter etc.....  biggrin.gif
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Malaysia is lacking of political will to spend on military.
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post Dec 7 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 7 2015, 10:19 AM)
well went your dominate air power, just time mater to taken out ...
jet fighter can flight close to your missile/radar base to release missile ( anti-radiation missile) or air-ground missile,even GPS/satelite precision guided glide bomb。 about 100-120km than leave the area, and your missile still not able to attack enemy jet fighter, your only can fire if jet figther close to half missile range. so after detect enemy missile depend how many missile your have to kill in coming missile. usually need fire 2 to counter each missile coming.
If have stealth figther more better,they can coming untill 80-90km release missile.
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That depend on how effective it is on the layer defense.
For example Russia s-400 will have pantsir as point defense. If they decide it is not enough they could add combat air patrol, aew, signit aircraft and so on.
As for stealth fighter I think it will be hard for them to get close around 100km as they will get higher chances to be detected.
F18G will have tough luck to get close enough to jam those radar.
Defeating those s-400 will be toughest sead mission ever.

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post Dec 7 2015, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 7 2015, 12:44 PM)
yes,  technically latest-generation SAM can take down modem aircraft.
but is not easy compare to last time, aircraft much easy to take down SAM from far distance,
SAM just take a beating, deplete war, depend how long can sustain. 
compare technology, aircraft have more improvement in technology in aircraft also to air-ground missile, more type and more range
also jamming from aircraft.
if no have choice between defense SAM/ Jet fighter i will choose Jet fighter.
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I prefer both.
You still need SAM to protect your airbase.
What the use of the runway being blast off.

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post Dec 7 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 09:26 PM)
the tracked is preference for the formation of our armoured brigade

our army is still very much conventional, tank for support, sph will be back support and must be able to keep up with the tank regardless of the ground terrain. the personal carrier is wheeled because they need to fast to deploy upon successful assault
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We are missing attack heli to support our armoured brigade.

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post Dec 7 2015, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 09:29 PM)
S400 Deployment


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Pantsir hiding there. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 7 2015, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 09:38 PM)
that the issues.. all come in one but all we have is the bits and pieces

MRSS suppose to enable fast deployment of force but also tak ada

SPH suppose to support tank but 10years until now tak ada

MRCA suppose to enable better ground attack and the mkm will solely focus in air to air combat but also tak ada

Medium air defense to support advancing force.. but until now still with manpads. Starstreak is still a point defence system

attack helo.. aiyo... kesian also tak ada
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Dun expect much from pussy politician lack of political will.
Worse another camp wanna cut military budget.
I guess when shot hit their backyard cause them to wet their pants only they understand we need to beef up of military and security

QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 7 2015, 09:38 PM)
Malaysia just signed contract for 6 MD-530G Little Bird.
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Not considered as an attack heli in my dictionary. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 7 2015, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 09:40 PM)
they already have a layered defence placed there.. making any SEED operation super hard

now they only need eyes in the sky and that would complete their air defense system.. sadly the US have a better system in this section (E3) compared to the russian (A50)
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But still the range of s-400 is pain in the ass to counter.
Signit and an aew and su35pakfa would complete it.

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post Dec 7 2015, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 09:48 PM)
The lahad datu incident also the same. Being poke also like no effect on the political

they more trigger happy on opposition having dinner with kiram daugther than to beef up security

even the recent beheading have little or no impact  doh.gif

and best they epeect the armed forces to perform 110% with all those bits a pieces  doh.gif
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That y must happen right at their backyard then only we will see effort.
Sigh.
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post Dec 7 2015, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Dec 7 2015, 09:58 PM)
According to Marhalim's previous article the 6 helicopters will be jointly operated by RMAF & PUTD.
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Kesian we need to share 6 units.
Sigh look at US airborne101 so nice they even have their own apache and lots of toys.
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post Dec 7 2015, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 10:07 PM)
but the s300 and s400 is still not battle proven. The s200 is have shown it effective especially cold war era fighters

nevertheless,

it deployments along side pantsir is gonna make US and other flight more difficult except france and the jews laugh.gif
it a heli tailored for special operation from it birth.. i doubt they will use it by any tom dick and harry even in the RMAF and PUTD
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S400 battle proven or not it still pain in the ass to get lock on once enter syria airspace.
If russia manage to get some df21d from China it would be very interesting to deploys at Syria. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 7 2015, 10:22 PM)
Is it really necessary for Russia to go to China for missile tech? I still have the impression Russia is king in all things related to ICBM.
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Not really sure if russia have carrier killer missile of its own.

QUOTE(thpace @ Dec 7 2015, 10:23 PM)
why need df21d.. they already have K-300.. even making coastal landing in syria.. a danger for ships.

one need one russia boat sink to deploy haha
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P800 not enough power.
Need some carrier killer. US confirm pening
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post Dec 7 2015, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 7 2015, 10:34 PM)
Whatever is said about it, I'm somehow still not convinced an ICBM warhead from orbit has the necessary accuracy to hit a moving target.
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I too skeptical about it as well.
Icbm never build to be precision targeting after all.
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post Dec 7 2015, 10:40 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Dec 7 2015, 10:34 PM)
Brahmos? Moskit? Cold War era AS-5 Kelts*? Tak ingat the rest
*edit: AS-4 Kitchen, AS-16 Kickback

No lar both sides trying not to provocate. Rusiya also didn't deploy medium air-to-air missiles until that stupid SU-24 incident.
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Those were not advertise as carrier killer.

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