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J'Daniel
post Dec 21 2008, 06:39 PM

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Hmm

I wonder why so many people refused to pay income tax since we can claim back with receipt or whatsoever unsure.gif


J'Daniel
post Dec 22 2008, 10:11 AM

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Does that mean we only can claim up to RM8k max per year ?
J'Daniel
post Dec 27 2008, 08:42 PM

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Anyone know what is the procedure for claim rebate for this personal relief ?


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post Dec 27 2008, 09:56 PM

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in that case, that mean we submit all the relevant receipt together during declare BE form ?

and at the same time, they will pay back us for the claim ?

how about online then ?
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post Dec 28 2008, 11:53 AM

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Thank you Gemini !

Wow if everyone also submit claims but did not provide receipt, sure got some people purposely put 'higher amount' to get more

Since we can claim up to RM8k p.a , why people so reluctant to pay tax ? I think this only affect those who pay tax > RM8k right ?
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post Dec 29 2008, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(GeminiGeek @ Dec 28 2008, 02:38 PM)
Yes. I do know of people who full claim reliefs such as books and medical expenses for parents, when the actual receipt isn't that amount. They dare to do that cos when you do submission, you don't have to submit those receipt. It's self assessment after all. Anyway, they are at risk. The IRB will once in a blue moon, send you a love letter, asking you to present them those receipts for their reference. If you fail to show those receipt, you have to pay penalty and more tax in respect of the fake relief claims.

The RM8,000 personal relief is automatic for EVERY tax payer.
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Thanks again bro notworthy.gif

Appreciate your explanation, it help me a lot ! I understand much better now

I am tax payer but sometimes I might not taxable for 1~2 months ( if I don't do overtime). If let say my total tax per year is ONLY RM1000, I still can claim up to RM8000 provided got receipt under personal relief ?

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post Dec 29 2008, 10:35 AM

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Lol sorry I think Im confused a bit rclxub.gif

If I earn 30k, and it auto deduct relief Rm8k meaning taxable income is 22k

I not sure why need to pay the tax when declare. I thought all the tax already deducted from my salary monthly

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post Jan 7 2009, 10:47 AM

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Does that apply for monthly gym membership ?


Added on January 7, 2009, 11:09 am
QUOTE(attahun @ Dec 31 2008, 05:12 PM)
sorry don't quite get u..do u mean RM24,907/year is taxable then? i calculate base on my calculator so might be my mistake so just want to clarify..

anyway should register and declare even though no tax for the year...reason is to save u from trouble when they audit you and suddenly realized you never declare your salary, then 'kena' because of not declaring your salary...so income tax must still be filed.

Another reason is that when you start to get PCB (potongan cukai berjadual) and sometimes you are over-deducted, you can only claim back the extra deductions if your past tax declaration is settled, so u don't want to end up having problem in this.
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Still quite blur on the tax thingy lol. rclxub.gif

Relief = Reduce my taxable income & claim those magazines, books, pc etc etc

Rebate = ??

Example my gross income is 35k, and after minus EPF 11% = my total nett income is RM31,150 (w/o tax)

During the 12 months period, I pay tax every month except maybe few months...

So how to count is, RM31150 - RM8000(relief) = RM23150 (taxable income)

From this 23150, how I calculate what is the total tax amount I should pay ? And how to compare from my payslip whether I overpay or not ?

After calculate that, Then i claim the relief for my magazines etc etc using receipt right ?

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J'Daniel
post Jan 7 2009, 11:29 AM

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@attahun

Have tested with your calculator bro. Make life easier

From the summary at bottom, total we have to pay ... don't we already pay by deducted salary each month ?


I wonder does many of you guys put exactly information on your income ... cos if income high, have to pay more tax ...
or you guys just simply put low salary and exclude the allowances


How about the relief like mag etc ?

and do many of you guys overpaid or underpaid your tax to gov ?
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post Jan 9 2009, 05:04 PM

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any tax payer can confirm how often they check receipt of proof ?

What if I put less salary in my BE .. like exclude my allowances etc etc ?

as I know, they don't need our JE form for declare income right ?
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post Jan 15 2009, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(attahun @ Jan 9 2009, 05:19 PM)
JE form and EA form same ke? haha... anyway what i know is that EA form is your proof of ur income. Allowance may not be included but that will be checked from your pay slip if LHDN want to dig further..

point is, declare based on your EA form..that should do. correct me if i'm wrong.
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Hmm what if I don't have EA form ? haven't declare for the past 3 years ... old company

Not sure how to declare though
J'Daniel
post Jan 16 2009, 06:05 PM

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Would also like to enquire about my past BE form

For the 2 years ago BE form, can I submit via e-filling ? and how do I obtain the pin for e-filling ?


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post Jan 30 2009, 07:48 PM

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Seem like very serious case sweat.gif

But I see like majority of my colleague doesn't even bother about income tax thingy, in MNC somemore

I went to LHDN yesterday ... BE 2006 and 2007 have to submit manual.
I ask for the pin, they say April only got ... each pin valid for a year onli

normally if manual submit, just give the BE will do ? Do i need to wait for their feedback or whatever thing ? unsure.gif
J'Daniel
post Jan 30 2009, 09:16 PM

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before 30th April ..
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post Jan 31 2009, 12:09 PM

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Thanks all !

What I mean is, after I submit ... do I need to wait their feedback ?

Do I get to confirm on my rebate instantly ?
J'Daniel
post Jan 31 2009, 03:38 PM

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post Feb 3 2009, 12:20 PM

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I tried to get the E-Pin but they said its only available April rclxub.gif

The rebate is for everything .. like the auto relief rm8k, and magazine and whatever rebate we submited. LHDN will calculate total and see we overpaid or underpaid ... and then we have to pay extra ? or maybe they pay us back ..

Do this process all happend on the spot we submit ?
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post Feb 5 2009, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(penangmee @ Feb 4 2009, 12:04 AM)
Pin no for personal efiling is available now. Just go to the nearest LHDN branch b4 it gets too crowded as efiling BE/B2008 just started today
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Owh is it ? So fast ready ? I drive all the way so far to LHDN but end up no PIN.

Can we actually request the PIN via phone call ?
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post Feb 6 2009, 10:03 AM

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Hmm I did not receive BE 2008 .. you mean LHDN will send to me ?? So far I never receive any BE in my 3 year working lol ...


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post Feb 8 2009, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(J'Daniel @ Feb 6 2009, 10:03 AM)
Hmm I did not receive BE 2008 .. you mean LHDN will send to me ?? So far I never receive any BE in my 3 year working lol ...
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Hmm anyone can clarify this ? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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