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TSDiazepam
post Nov 22 2006, 02:24 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi,

I just posted a thread in the hardware Q&A section asking if I could mount DDR667 ram onto a DDR400 mobo (the Asus A8N-E), and I was told that DDR667 is DDR2 and as such, can't be used on a DDR400-only mobo as the slots are different.

So, I need some advice. I'm planning to overclock my rig, but can't because of my RAM speed (my ideal processor speed equates to DDR400 running at 245/490). So since I can't mount higher speed RAMs on it, any other alternatives?

Or are performance RAM specifically for this (ie. DDR400 but can run at 500/600?)?

Thanks a whole bunch.
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post Nov 22 2006, 02:43 PM

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DDR667 is under DDR2

There is no way u can use DDR667 in DDR400 slots...

DDR400 falls under DDR1 [There are DDR400 for DDR2, but it's not used in large quantity]

The only way for you to use that DDR667 is to upgrade u're motherboard... smile.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 03:22 PM

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Thanks, Shawty.

Are there any alternatives for me if I want to put in RAM that can overclock well (to about 245/490) without changing my mobo?

Thanks.
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post Nov 22 2006, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Diazepam @ Nov 22 2006, 03:22 PM)
Thanks, Shawty.

Are there any alternatives for me if I want to put in RAM that can overclock well (to about 245/490) without changing my mobo?

Thanks.
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TSDiazepam
post Nov 22 2006, 03:25 PM

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RAM: Kingston Value Ram
Size: 2x1Gb DDR400
Mobo model: Asus A8N-E
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post Nov 22 2006, 03:27 PM

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TCCD can do ddr500 without sweat, too bad they don come in 1GB module, only available in 512MB. smile.gif

kinda hard for asus to do ddr600 or above with ya current mobo, premium boards like 32sli will cost u a bomb... sweat.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 03:29 PM

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Darn,

I'd really like to not have to change the mobo. Also, as long as it can do DDR500, I'd be more than happy. biggrin.gif, so no need DDR600. biggrin.gif

Any other alternatives other than TCCD then?

Thanks.
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post Nov 22 2006, 04:30 PM

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i think can b said impossible 2 oc ddr400 2 ddr500 wif a value ram

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post Nov 22 2006, 04:52 PM

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If you want 2x1GB that could overclock to at least DDR500, I think Micron -5B or Samsung UCCC based ram is your only choice.
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post Nov 22 2006, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 22 2006, 04:52 PM)
If you want 2x1GB that could overclock to at least DDR500, I think Micron -5B  or Samsung UCCC based ram is your only choice.
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post Nov 22 2006, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 22 2006, 04:52 PM)
If you want 2x1GB that could overclock to at least DDR500, I think Micron -5B  or Samsung UCCC based ram is your only choice.
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QUOTE(footie @ Nov 22 2006, 05:06 PM)
ce-6 oso, correct me if i'm wrong bro... smile.gif
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Sorry guys. Which ones are those?

I only see Kingston HyperX and Corsair XMS (3200 Pro LED and 3200C2PT) under high-performance RAM.

Are those ok?

Thanks.
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post Nov 22 2006, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(nckent @ Nov 22 2006, 04:30 PM)
i think can b said impossible 2 oc ddr400 2 ddr500 wif a value ram
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Who told you that?
I've overclock my Kingston Valueram to a speed of 533MHz before...

It's not even using those high end chipset such as BH-5, TCCD or anything else...

It's a normal Kingston chips.. rclxms.gif

Where is my old cpu-z screenies hmm...
Wait, i'll look for it first, then post it here... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 22 2006, 10:36 PM

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DDR500 will suit you in your Asus A8N-E...

i used to have 2x512MB Samsung UCCC and managed to get DDR500@3448@2.8vDIMM. TCCD available in DDR500, DDR550 and DDR600 biggrin.gif, i did test on my Asus A8N-SLI Premium not too long ago, and found, it can't do DDR600 (using Corsair Titanium series)...sweat.gif
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post Nov 23 2006, 11:36 AM

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Lucifah just told me that his Kingston Value Ram is running at 295.

And that I need to not run it in dual channel mode (and of course increase the voltage) . . . hmmm, maybe I'll try that first.

If I don't have to change anything, that'll be better. tongue.gif
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post Nov 24 2006, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Nov 22 2006, 07:08 PM)
Who told you that?
I've overclock my Kingston Valueram to a speed of 533MHz before...

It's not even using those high end chipset such as BH-5, TCCD or anything else...

It's a normal Kingston chips.. rclxms.gif

Where is my old cpu-z screenies hmm...
Wait, i'll look for it first, then post it here... icon_rolleyes.gif
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kingston chips are good chips lar... and kingston chips are more exp than advance modules chips or any other cap palang chips... u might not see the diff cuz retail same price... so if u buy advance module chip u rugi la... whistling.gif
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post Nov 24 2006, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(t3chn0m4nc3r @ Nov 24 2006, 12:01 PM)
kingston chips are good chips lar... and kingston chips are more exp than advance modules chips or any other cap palang chips... u might not see the diff cuz retail same price... so if u buy advance module chip u rugi la... whistling.gif
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Kingston don't have chip, they just relabled it with their name, the chip like Samsung (TCCD thumbup.gif, TCCC, UCCC), Winbond (BH-5 brows.gif, CH-5), Infineon, Mosel Vitelic...details you can go to Hardware section and click at pinned thread -- RAM's Handbook smile.gif

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post Nov 24 2006, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(nckent @ Nov 22 2006, 04:30 PM)
i think can b said impossible 2 oc ddr400 2 ddr500 wif a value ram
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since K7 time KVR can achive 250MHz blush.gif
KVR @ 250

@TS..have u played with the divider thingy??maybe u can lower the ram speed

This post has been edited by sjn hassan: Nov 24 2006, 02:59 PM
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post Nov 24 2006, 03:39 PM

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Simple. If your RAM can't support high speed and you don't want to upgrade your RAM, use memory divider. This will run your RAM async to your FSB. Please note that there will be some performance hit but if you use AMD64 , the hit is quite low as the memory controller is in the processor. You might lose only around 100Mhz speed if you run 4:5 so if you can overclock more than 200Mhz compare to the memory contraint, you should get positive gain.
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QUOTE(sniper69 @ Nov 24 2006, 03:13 PM)
Kingston don't have chip, they just relabled it with their name, the chip like Samsung (TCCD thumbup.gif, TCCC, UCCC), Winbond (BH-5 brows.gif, CH-5), Infineon, Mosel Vitelic...details you can go to Hardware section and click at pinned thread -- RAM's Handbook smile.gif
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hmm... funny... sorry for my mistake... it's juz base on my boss supplier pricelist... cuz advance module and other unknown brand chips are usually cheaper... But Hynix and Samsung chips are very very rare in Value line... almost non-existant...
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post Nov 25 2006, 01:22 AM

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QUOTE(sjn hassan @ Nov 24 2006, 02:49 PM)
@TS..have u played with the divider thingy??maybe u can lower the ram speed
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QUOTE(pierreye @ Nov 24 2006, 03:39 PM)
Simple. If your RAM can't support high speed and you don't want to upgrade your RAM, use memory divider. This will run your RAM async to your FSB. Please note that there will be some performance hit but if you use AMD64 , the hit is quite low as the memory controller is in the processor. You might lose only around 100Mhz speed if you run 4:5 so if you can overclock more than 200Mhz compare to the memory contraint, you should get positive gain.
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Ok, will have to look into the memory divider. I'm assuming that the OC sticky will have articles on this. Have to do quite a bit of reading up first.

Also, my mobo isn't really an OC friendly board, so I'll have to check and see if I can actually mess around with the divider - last I checked, it lacked certain functions for me to tweak.

Thanks for the direction.

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