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Wan
post Dec 4 2006, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Dec 4 2006, 04:54 PM)
That's where we disagree mate. Diving is cheating in my books. If there is contact, it is a foul, not a dive. Inviting contact is a strategy. Flying through the air in anticipation of contact, is not. I would be embarrassed if my team needed to cheat to win.
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Van Persie does it in a lot of games, Robben.. but oh no only Ronaldo does it. Anything to do with ManUtd get magnified 300%. The penalty decision I believe he stumble..., ball/defender.. those kinda thing, should blame the referee, not him. 2nd one he jumped to avoid Boateng, they collide... foul lah. Atleast his leg didn't 'go and find' Boateng before falling like what Pires did againts Portsmouth. This season Ronaldo has been really 'clean' so far.

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Well about the use of video replays, only use it in a match only on goal/penalty decisions. Whether they're offside or not, ball cross the line or not, that kinda thing. The rest let the ref/linesman decides. On whether a player dives or not, do it after the game, where a panel review those replays and then give out the appropriate punishments. That's the only way to stop blatant diving.

Oh, forgot. Vidic miss a game because of that Drogba elbow. He might have made a meal of the Ballack challenge earlier, but that one with Drogba really hurt heh.

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post Dec 4 2006, 05:43 PM

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Sorry, didn't mean it that way. I think I read the wrong thread and jump the gun a bit. tongue.gif

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Gerrard does it when you're desperate(which is a lot of times tongue.gif) and when he's on his charge mode. But he doesn't claim a penalty if its not given, only sometimes. Its hardly isolated incidents.

What I would term a diver is 0 contact=fall... or one that Pires did againts Portsmouth where he purposely kick the player to fall down. People stop when their shirt got pulled, and the refs give a foul... I see it's the same as when people fall down 'easily' when they get tackled. In both situations they can still go and run, but choose to stop/fall down. That's OK in my book. Unless of course someone put a hand on their back and they fall down like they been hit by a sniper. Ronaldo stop 'diving' last season or so(well, for ManUtd), even more so this season where he knows everyone will have their eyes on him. About last game, its a matter of opinions I guess. He attack people so fast that one nudge and he'll lose his balance.
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post Dec 4 2006, 05:55 PM

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Bring video technology to clean those stuff up, and give heavy punishments to those 'blatant' divers. That's the only way to partly stop people cheating heh. What I hate most is when they got tackled, and then claimed they're injured. The physio came on and check on them for ages before the player finally is put on the stretcher and they carry him off.. but first carefully blanket the player first. The minute the stretcher is put down, the player magically got up and run back into the field. I swear some day I'll kill that Beto(I think, Benfica player, maggie hair) guy myself.
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post Dec 4 2006, 06:07 PM

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Just watch the Brazilian league... or other S.Americas games. They really do tackle people hard. Got away with them most of the time too. Both sides are as bad as each other.
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post Jan 5 2007, 06:36 PM

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What's wrong with West Ham? They were flying last season, now with almost the same squad, they're at the bottom. The highly rated Mascherano can't even get a game. How good is he compare to Gilberto Silva(when did he learn how to score? 7 goals!)?

 

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