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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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post Sep 26 2015, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 25 2015, 11:11 PM)
well I guess could drop 0.20sen tis year from 2014 rate nod.gif
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You mean 0.02 cents?
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post Sep 26 2015, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 26 2015, 01:57 PM)
7.5sen to 7.30sen icon_rolleyes.gif
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Possibly, based on the current economic condition
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post Sep 30 2015, 03:43 PM

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Kuala Lumpur - Amanah Saham Nasional Berhad (ASNB), anak syarikat milik penuh Permodalan Nasional Berhad (PNB) mengumumkan pengagihan pendapatan sebanyak 6.40 sen seunit untuk Amanah Saham 1Malaysia (AS1M) bagi tahun kewangan berakhir 30 September 2015.

Kadar pengihan pendapatan ini membabitkan pembayaran berjumlah RM694.96 juta, yang akan dapat dimanfaatkan seramai 395,036 pemegang unit yang telah melanggan 10.9 bilion unit AS1M.

Para pemegang unit boleh mengemaskinikan buku pelaburan AS1M masing-masing di pejabat-pejabat atau ejen-ejen ASNB di seluruh negara mulai 1 Oktober 2015.

(Source: ASNB Facebook)
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post Sep 30 2015, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(winyap991 @ Sep 30 2015, 03:58 PM)
ASM 6.6 for 2015
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that was before the political and economic crisis in Malaysia
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post Oct 1 2015, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Oct 1 2015, 11:09 AM)
ASW Fund is fully subscribed
ASM Fund is fully subscribed
ASD Fund is fully subscribed

When you guys see this message, how do you do the topup?
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do it over the counters. This has been discussed for many years in this thread
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post Oct 1 2015, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Oct 1 2015, 01:26 PM)
congrats
why one shot rm38k cannot top up?
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This is my guess:

If one big lump sum deposit, it needs officer to validate ("override") the transaction, before it goes thru the ASNB system, and it takes some times.

RM10K or below no need such validation (some bank 20K below)
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 1 2015, 03:29 PM)
10k is already SUPERVISOR at the system row.

9999 still SYSTEM at the system row. If not mistaken la.
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depending on which bank, CIMB is 20K.
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post Oct 6 2015, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(titanic_crash @ Oct 6 2015, 07:07 AM)
it's not a one day decision...i opened asw since 2008...back then, the div was superior then epf, thus i used to hedge accordingly and i used odasw as well...
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now, with asb2 coming and the first dividen was equal to asb,asw and as1m were not favorable to me anymore

with the current 3b snapped up in asb2, im going and invest under my children name first as it is capped at 10b..try max 50k for each child, then i asb
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If u know how to use ODASW, spot on!!
But based on the current shrinking return of ASW dividend and increasing in OD rate. Not worth to do the ODASW.
I have discontinue 5 OD accounts pledged against ASW.
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post Oct 6 2015, 02:33 PM

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Overdraft against ASW.

Last time ASW could be in the form of certificate and pledge to the bank for OD facility, 5 years ago, BLR was 5.5% and OD interest rate can get up to BLR-2% (for my case), so net OD rate was 3.5% compared to ASW which was 6.6% in average. Therefore there is a gap on the cost of fund and the return in ASW.

So there are some ppl see the opportunity. There were many ppl use ASW to pledge with bank, OD out the money and use OD to deposit in ASW and pledge again...do it multiple times to maximize the OD, so 100K of seed capital may ballon up the deposit till RM1mil or more with multiple OD placement.

Eventually ASNB found the loopholes and stopped the ASW in certificate form....
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QUOTE(MGM @ Oct 6 2015, 02:37 PM)
So there is no more ASW in cert form, or some investors still holding them? Any other fix-priced ASx can be in cert form?
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No more, those who still holding the ASW certificate can still do the OD financing but the return is not great anymore.
For now, fixed priced fund, only ASB and ASB2 can be in the certificate forms.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 6 2015, 03:14 PM)
May I asked what's the purpose of doing that?
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Multiplying effect.
As per my example, you can balloon up your seed capital from 100K to RM1mil, using the methods.
And take advantage of the interest gaps.
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QUOTE(harmonics3 @ Oct 6 2015, 03:58 PM)
but how to get 1mil ASW units when there's limited supply?
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At that point of time. Mostly Bumi investors did it, because bumi quota units were aplenty.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 6 2015, 04:02 PM)
For what you want to ballon up the capital?
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Its ok, you dont have to understand. It's already in the past.
Loophole is covered.
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post Oct 9 2015, 09:47 PM

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ASB2 financing is available now with Maybank

http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p...sonal/LOA-Loans
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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 10 2015, 12:54 PM)
NYSE has more than 1,600 ETF and more than 1,000 in applications. It covers various sectors. The average earning of the entire ETF industry is not a meaningful figure. ETF is just a kind of unit trust, but, the formation is different and so do its liquidation.

Of cause, it has many advantage than traditional Unit Trust. Relatively, ETF is still new in the investment market, 10 years plus only. It is evolving now, and some, are turning into high risk as well, because it can be configured for hedging, and law in USA still not fully capable to manage it.

hehe.... My knowledge in ETF is limited. I'm still working ETF research since 2 years ago. I am a slow learner and a very conservative investor.

My personal plan is - for fun I am with Forex, for mid/long term incomes is with ETF.

I am not favor to traditional Unit Trust. Unit Trust concept is good, but, the formation is suck. Not really at subscribers benefits. 

I never take ASNB as a traditional trust. As I said, I am taking its political purpose advantage. That reason I like ASNB.
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Spot on!!
The main critic of the mutual funds is the cost of investment. Sunny day or rainy day, they still make money from the investors regardless of performance. ETF provide cheaper and more effective option to invest in index stocks.

Asnb variable priced funds are following the mutual fund concept. The exception is Asnb's fixed price fund. It's the hybrid of FD and mutual funds based on its product features.

A retiree here too.
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 10 2015, 11:19 AM)
I remember I mentioned once when the dreamer invade our thread which negativity.

The bolded part is very very very important. Actually, be it the current or opposition. PNB will not fall.

What do you guys think on this?
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Unker dreamers is a non-believer of any politically link products. Each induvidual has their own preference.

For some, they treat Asx fixed price funds as a temporary current account that pay high dividend. It allows one to temporary park their money there, worry free!!
When other better investment opportunities arise, the liquidity nature of the funds allows the spontaneous withdrawal which is good.
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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 10 2015, 03:45 PM)
Glad to know that you are a retiree and positive to ETF too. Mind to share your personal portfolio investment.
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Most of my investment in property.
Used to invest a lot in Public mutual 10 years ago. Mutual gold. Then aggressively properties. Collect rental as dividend income.

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Oct 10 2015, 01:31 PM)
Agreed if u refer to bumi interest in FP products
As for non bumi, I supposed not many investors wud want to goes thru the pain, time n sweat to top up n eventually withdraw for other purpose
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Most of the friends I know don't go thru the pain.
They leave their cheque book/passbook with the bank. The staffs try and error for them. Top up the SA/CA when the credit running low.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 10 2015, 05:54 PM)
So they leave book there and let staff topup for them? Your friends must be vvip customers to the bank.
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Premier banking and preferred banking helps.
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QUOTE(kpfun @ Oct 11 2015, 10:26 AM)
I do income tax reporting as usual. I pay for what I need to pay.

FYI -

Dividends received by local investors from investments in Malaysia under the single-tier system are exempt from tax from year of assessment 2008.

Gains from the realisation of investments outside Malaysia will not be subject to tax.

Gains from the realisation of investments (other than real property which may be subject to real property gains tax) within Malaysia are not subject to tax.

An individual resident in Malaysia is exempt from payment of income tax on gains or profit, interest or bonus received from money deposited with the following institutions:
(A) a bank or finance company licensed or deemed to be licensed under Act 758;
(B) a bank licensed under Act 759;
© a development financial institution prescribed under the Development Financial Institution Act 2002 [Act 618];
(D) the Lembaga Tabung Haji established under the Tabung Haji Act 1995 [Act 535];
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Also, starting from year 2004, any income generated in overseas when bring back to Malaysia is exempted from tax

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