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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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wil-i-am
post Nov 4 2015, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Nov 4 2015, 07:38 AM)
Hope today there is some for me to topup in asw2020 smile.gif
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Wish u gud luck
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post Nov 4 2015, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Nov 4 2015, 07:47 AM)
Refund still not in yet this morning. So slow
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I suspect yo application is successful
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post Nov 4 2015, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Nov 4 2015, 01:28 PM)
Why as1m not popular arr?
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Ppl worry on 1M brand
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post Nov 4 2015, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Nov 4 2015, 01:35 PM)
The information from AR 2015 (ASW2020) stated that dividends received would not be taxed due to the single tier taxation practice since 2008..

As such, I believe that the exemption on tax for income distribution would not longer be an issue..
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Tis is valid until 2016
Thereafter, ASNB will write in to seek exemption for another 10 years
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post Nov 4 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Nov 4 2015, 04:25 PM)
i tried adding asm account into cimbclicks but rejected

only have as1m there

manage to top up twice few weeks back... 10k and 2k

but yesterday tried 5k and got rejected.
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I tot cimb clicks allow depositors to add ASB/ASW/ASM/ASD/AS1M?
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post Nov 4 2015, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(nxtpg @ Nov 4 2015, 04:54 PM)
But i tried adding my asm acc there 3 times. All rejected
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I supposed they have disabled ASM
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post Nov 4 2015, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Nov 4 2015, 05:41 PM)
Not much , 5 figure amount
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Congrats
Low or High end 5 figures?
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post Nov 4 2015, 07:20 PM

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I will fill-up form only once transaction is successful as I want to save cost for ASNB n the environment
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post Nov 4 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 08:26 PM)
What are you talking about ? I did not see these infos in the statement sent to me in 2014. Neither did I see these wordings in the ASM statement sent to me in June this year.
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In fact, it doesn't affect ordinary investor
No need to waste time n worry
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post Nov 4 2015, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 09:00 PM)
Normally the Non-Bumi categories of the ASX FP Funds and hence, their statements have quite similar characteristics, though not exactly the same,... so ASM does not have these wordings,... what do they mean, Nexona,.. Wil,... ?
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Item 3 & 4 refers to collateral units in respect of will
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post Nov 4 2015, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 09:45 PM)
Confirmed by PNB ?
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Yes as depositor need to allocate 1,000 units (can't withdraw) as payment consideration for various 'yuran' in respect of muslim or non muslim will
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:14 PM

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Based on 2015 AR info, ASM have high profits c/f as compared to ASW
Still awaiting AS1M 2015 AR to finalize position
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 10:19 PM)
Okay,.. guys,.. HA/PA = Hibah or Pengisytiharaan Amanah,... yes, something to do with the Islamic or Normal Will. But what has these wills got to do with the State EPU body ?

Perhaps I need to look at the actual document in order to visualise it better,...
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Item 3 & 4 is different from Item 5
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post Nov 4 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 10:21 PM)
Probably because the mkt was not that bad yet when ASM closed her books back in April 31st this year, compared to August 31st, when ASW closed her books.
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ASM financial year end is 31st March of each year
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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 4 2015, 10:24 PM)
Okay,.. confirmed that I really need to have my statement in front of me before I can visualise better,.. smile.gif  I can imagine what Items 3 and 4 are now,...

Still, I supposed Item 5 relates to the State EPU body. What is this about then ?
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I have no idea on Item 5
I suppose it relates to some form of welfare related stuff
Anyway, Item 5 don't have any impact for normal investor who purchased via cash
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post Nov 4 2015, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 4 2015, 11:04 PM)
Just wait until Jan 1st then only we will know.  rclxms.gif  biggrin.gif  tongue.gif
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No need to wait
It will b a non event n bau
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post Nov 4 2015, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 4 2015, 11:13 PM)
BTW, the EPU thing is only there for ASW2020 report or is it stated in the report for AS1M and ASM too?
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ASM none but AS1M not sure yet
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post Nov 5 2015, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Vincent9696 @ Nov 5 2015, 12:46 AM)
As1m got 1 loan namely sara1malaysia , i know maybank got do this ...
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Now I recall...
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post Nov 5 2015, 09:01 AM

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QUOTE(smartinvestor01 @ Nov 5 2015, 08:25 AM)
I am assuming that both ASW2020 and AS1M might be saved from conversion from FP to VP because in ASW2020, there is an EPU loan related and in AS1M, there is a Sara1Malaysia loan.. Those loans are government initiatives..

On the other hand, ASM does not have any loan products of government initiative.. so quite reasonable to say that this fund would be the first to convert to VP if fixed price funds are to convert to variable price funds.
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U have a valid point here
Having said tat, I wud reckon status quo as FP
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post Nov 5 2015, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 5 2015, 09:46 AM)
Wil,.. not really, if you look closely at the mechanics of the Sara1Malaysia and the ASW-Bandar initiatives :-

Both of them do NOT need to take into account the actual nav of each unit. The holdings do not really belong to the investors, and the investors are not able to sell away the units and pocket the gains from this disposing. What the investors reap are only the yearly dividends declared.

Hence, if the nav of each unit should change, there is no impact to the investors, or more precisely, the benefactors.
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For VP funds, dividend pymt is irrelevant as the value doesn't change pre n post distribution
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