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Why vaccines are bad for you, it has been scientifically proven
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Sep 9 2015, 01:38 PM
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Sep 9 2015, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Sep 9 2015, 01:21 PM) Wrong. Nice one doctor, u should make spread the word and take phd and make a bookWhatever disease mutate each year. Stronger each time. So the vaccine u buy and jab now is completely useless against the latest strand because already outdated to fight against latest flu. Bird flu kills less than 1% of the contracted people only. Percentage wise is not as deadly as we think. But media cause panic. Again big money for pharma companies. BTW vvaccines all manufactured in China using chicken eggs and monkey kidneys. You may contract jiken or monkey disease also. Lol This post has been edited by crash123: Sep 9 2015, 01:41 PM |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:43 PM
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Apa ketahian ini!!
Even IF there is a link between vaccination and autism, what are the chances of your kids dying from a completely preventable disease and them getting autism? 1,000,000,000 : 1 .. would you take the chance? Some people just wants to be different for the sake of being different.. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:43 PM
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must summon the vegan troll
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Sep 9 2015, 01:43 PM
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"if vaccine get me immune why do i need to inject every years"
virus or plague is one of the only way to keep the population under control...bside war. if population need to be under control, why human need breeding? |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Sep 9 2015, 01:33 PM) Not when you are just out from mother's womb. that is fcking why the herd immunity is important!Small dosage is a shitty argument. What about accumulated dosage ?? You take these from babies until 15 or so. Don't just trust all the big pharma ads. Whatever independent studies all are white-wash shit. Who is going to pay usd20mil to verify how safe and how effective are your drugs ? vaccines are given at certain ages. parents would know, coz all babies born are given a small booklet and everytime vaccine the doctor will sign. if idiots dont vaccinate when it spreads, the younger ones who are not strong enough to be vaccinated yet will suffer. READ UP ON THE DEVASTATION OF POLIO AND SMALLPOX back before the 1900s. i have only read them in encyclopedias and books, and already i am scared. nowadays if my kids just take a bit of a risk to prevent things like whopping cough and smallpox, it is worth it. anyways u dont wanna vaccinate, fine. just dont let them hang around children, coz u will affect the herd immunity. lock them in the basement. i wont complain. if u put ur unvaccinated kids near my kids, i will beat the shit out of u. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:45 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Sep 9 2015, 01:21 PM) Wrong. if you're talking about flu then yes, it's not that effectiveWhatever disease mutate each year. Stronger each time. So the vaccine u buy and jab now is completely useless against the latest strand because already outdated to fight against latest flu. Bird flu kills less than 1% of the contracted people only. Percentage wise is not as deadly as we think. But media cause panic. Again big money for pharma companies. BTW vvaccines all manufactured in China using chicken eggs and monkey kidneys. You may contract jiken or monkey disease also. Lol need to have yearly jab but polio? tb? measles? whooping cough? you dare not to get the vaccine? |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:45 PM
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Sep 9 2015, 01:45 PM
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Err....how to cancel report. Accidentally report
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Sep 9 2015, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Sep 9 2015, 01:44 PM) that is fcking why the herd immunity is important! your kids vaccinated d mah....why worry?vaccines are given at certain ages. parents would know, coz all babies born are given a small booklet and everytime vaccine the doctor will sign. if idiots dont vaccinate when it spreads, the younger ones who are not strong enough to be vaccinated yet will suffer. READ UP ON THE DEVASTATION OF POLIO AND SMALLPOX back before the 1900s. i have only read them in encyclopedias and books, and already i am scared. nowadays if my kids just take a bit of a risk to prevent things like whopping cough and smallpox, it is worth it. anyways u dont wanna vaccinate, fine. just dont let them hang around children, coz u will affect the herd immunity. lock them in the basement. i wont complain. if u put ur unvaccinated kids near my kids, i will beat the shit out of u. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(sendoh_7 @ Sep 9 2015, 01:45 PM) if you're talking about flu then yes, it's not that effective hes an idiot.need to have yearly jab but polio? tb? measles? whooping cough? you dare not to get the vaccine? we ourself all malaysian sure have BCG vaccine. how many times u take? 2 times only right? hes talking out of his ass. flu jab completely optional. frankly i myself think its not worth it coz they evolve so fast. This post has been edited by chickenshit36: Sep 9 2015, 01:47 PM |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:46 PM
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guys, TS is trolling only.
he support vaccine one. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:46 PM
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double post
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Sep 9 2015, 01:47 PM
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Sep 9 2015, 01:48 PM
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actually someone butthurt trying to kill the billion dollar medical industry...
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Sep 9 2015, 01:48 PM
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Sep 9 2015, 01:49 PM
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QUOTE(michlove @ Sep 9 2015, 01:46 PM) yes, but if enough of these people bring their unvaccinated kids around, they will infect the ones that are too young to be vaccinatedfor me thats selfish. but i cant force other people to beat the shit out of parents who bring their unvaccinated children around. but i will. This post has been edited by chickenshit36: Sep 9 2015, 01:49 PM |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:49 PM
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Lol.
Call me when things get interesting. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(chickenshit36 @ Sep 9 2015, 01:49 PM) yes, but if enough of these people bring their unvaccinated kids around, they will infect the ones that are too young to be vaccinated +1for me thats selfish. but i cant force other people to beat the shit out of parents who bring their unvaccinated children around. but i will. |
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Sep 9 2015, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Sep 9 2015, 01:29 PM) I'm not doctors but I spent a lot of hours researching on all these accusations. That doesn't sound like relevant analogy.Another thing is like this, I ask my pilot friend is there any filtration or bacteria killing unit on the plane itself. He said no. So when u take flight the air is recirculated for a few hours without any chance of clearing bacteria's or airborne virus to say. Usually is done by UV exposure. There u have it. So u see the whole flight if one person gets SARS basically everyone exposed to it. How many person did die ? Small number only In any case, the whole anti-vax nonsense is overblown anyway. the webcomic is pretty self-explanatory. My take on vaccines: 1) are they beneficial? Generally, yes. Too beneficial. There are too many f*cking humans on the planet today as a result of the invention of vaccines. 2) do some people react badly Yes, but adverse reactions far less than those that can safely accept them, and also dependent on the particular vaccine 3) do we need to vaccinate? My take is that we should have basic vaccination for the stuff that's really important. The rest only on a per needs basis. That should help balance risk out. E.g., I wouldn't want to bother taking a yellow fever vaccine since I don't need to travel to South America, but a BCG shot would make sense for a baby/child since TB is endemic to Malaysia. My take on why some people are opposed to vaccines: 1) ignorance -the advent of the internet has not made people smarter. Just confused and irrational. 2) religious / philosophical reasons -similar to the above. 3) fear and distrust of authority and big pharma - this one is the main underlying reason these days. It is true that in the past there was some industrial accident that caused a certain batch of vaccines to make people sick. Also it is potentially true that some times there's some fear mongering or profit oriented decisions by big pharma which may be construed as not being wholly beneficial to the public, but this in itself does not mean that vaccines do not work. To make an analogy: just because planes can crash it doesn't make air travel as a whole extremely dangerous. Maybe there are some models or designs or airlines with bad maintenance records which are more accident prone, but on the whole it does not refute the fact that air travel is basically safe for the general populace. The proof is in the pudding. |
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