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post Nov 22 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 22 2015, 09:09 AM)
So,... the window to convert is there now,...a big, big windown,.....
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i think it's quite a good time now at 4.28-4.29.

of course, u can wait and see if it will get to 4.0 or 4.5. biggrin.gif



seriously, for biz and investment purposes, one shouldn't base decision on fx movement. a 2-3% fx disadvantage or advantage will be drowned by a 8-10% return or loss from a venture. the investment project is far more critical.

fx movement opportunities are for full time currency traders and part time speculators.

only in the scenario where it is clear an interest rate hike or revaluation is imminent or massive fdi injection coming should one decide with fx in mind.

at this time, what is clear? best to base on facts, data and reliable analysis. not rumors or conspiracy theories. tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 22 2015, 12:45 PM)
anyone know the actual reason what trigger MYR to get stronger?  hmm.gif
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same kind of reasons when it was going down.

not one reason but a basket of reasons.

just check the 1 yr charts for usd against some peers.

you see the same curve patterns but different % up or down over time

usd's peak against these 4 was mostly in aug-sep.

since their lowest values
, they have all recovered:

brazil +11.8%
turkey +7.3%
indon +7%
mexico +4.5%
s korea +4.2%
malaysia +4.0%
south africa +2.2%

better than south africa... isn't that exciting? tongue.gif
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post Nov 22 2015, 05:26 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Nov 22 2015, 01:26 PM)
mexico better than us. seriously  doh.gif
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why not? mexican peso was never as badly hit as the myr.

last 1 yr:

foreign vs myr:

s korea +18.4%
rupiah +11.7%
aud +6.5%
nzd +6%
mexico +5%
turkey 0%
south africa 0%
brazil -15.3%


s korean won has recovered the most. next time, i will omit s korea won as it has lost only 4% to the sgd and gained 12/15% vs aud/nzd.

aud and nzd also recovered quite well.

indon maids will surely cost more; few people realize rupiah gained over aud and nzd in the last 1, even 2 yrs.

brazil is still the worst - best time to go there to samba, i guess.

malaysia along with turkey and south africa - "among the worst".

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post Nov 22 2015, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 22 2015, 05:30 PM)
Perhaps it's time to stock up in anticipation of next year Olympics in Rio
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for a trip to rio, better stock up usd!

official inflation near 10%. probably same bs as here... so actual urban inflation....25% p.a?

http://www.tradingeconomics.com/brazil/inflation-cpi
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post Nov 22 2015, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 22 2015, 06:38 PM)
But should we look at the whole period when USD was still 3.1x in June 2014 ? I think RM is still 1 of the worst in the world, and the worst in Asia
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i have looked at many time frames for several currencies.

if one looks hard enough, it is always possible to find a period it is very bad or very good. biggrin.gif

so, i just look at the conveniently available - 2 yrs, 1 yr, 1 month, from peak...

impt thing is be aware is if there is a short period exceptionally good or bad and why.

so far,we can see BRAZIL going through a really shitty time - and we know why: big corruption at national oil co.

and i have seen AUD recovering quite well despite 2 rate cuts in the last year.

i will be watching MEXICO closely and see if its relative strength among EM's will be destroyed by hedge funds as reported by bloomberg.

RM... definitely worst in asia. "there is nothing positive". no rate hike, no massive exports incr, low cpo, no incr in fdi, same or incr spending in budget. and oil price stays very low after 1.5 yrs. will petronas report a loss in next qtr?
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/20/oil-compani...t-defaults.html

if a currency can strengthen significantly w/o doing anything in such a scenario, we should stop going to school to learn economics, finance, maths and science. sweat.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 22 2015, 10:17 PM)
That's what puzzled many of us. RM should have reached 4.50 with such negative economic numbers. But it defied gravity and head north instead. So "rumour", "conspiracy theory", "magic" arguments appeared when the direction is unexplainable

That's what makes trading interesting  tongue.gif
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It's all relative.

Already worst in Asia, among the worst in the world. That's bad enough.

There are other economies in worse shape like Venezuela, Ukraine, Nigeria. But these are not as similar as Msia is to Turkey and South Africa.

4.5, 5.0... That will be if we slip into recession next year and the politics much uglier.

Not an entirely impossible scenario.



Another thing interesting thing is the Thai baht. What reasons for it to be even stronger than the SGD?
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post Nov 23 2015, 10:53 AM

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usd strengthening again.

0.943 euro.

crude price falling again.

rm >4.30.


i want to buy a bit more usd.

it just won't stay <4.25 more than 1 day!

magic, illusion, fundamentals, welcome to help! laugh.gif

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post Nov 23 2015, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 23 2015, 02:53 PM)
It has dropped back to 4.29 now....

But I will wait  tongue.gif
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wait to buy or sell usd? biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 23 2015, 03:04 PM)
China committed to buying MGS Bonds ? The Asean Mtg in KL started last week,... RM started strengthening last week. Around the same time,....
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doesn't look like it.

mgs 10 yr last 2 weeks been 4.30->4.35->4.33->4.26%.

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post Nov 23 2015, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 23 2015, 03:48 PM)
Committed but has not started to buy yet.... the mkt is pricing-in a surety that China will start to buy SOON.
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can one interprete that as a big chance for msia to issue big new bonds, incr debt big time? tongue.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 23 2015, 05:01 PM)
Theoretically,.. yes, since there is a willing party ready to buy our issues. So, more debts,... but at the same time, more liquidity too.
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ok, we wait and see if this indeed will affect the rm in the coming weeks and months.

now, 4.30 still.

very stable. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2015, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 23 2015, 05:15 PM)
Edited by adding : I was appalled too that we could not reason out why the MYR could stand, and defied 'natural gravity' for it to drop.
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actually, i am appalled u and showtime are appalled. biggrin.gif

why should the rm fall further against usd when indon, turkey, south africa, brazil currencies, aud, nzd strengthened too, even more than rm over the same recent period?

if rm falls further against usd when the peers are gaining, it means it has really gone to the dogs for good, no?

or you guys think it is, in fact, the case now? laugh.gif


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Oil nearly 2% lower; commodity stocks hammered

Oil prices remained under pressure during Asian trade on the back of a global supply surplus, with U.S. crude down by around 3 percent and the internationally-traded Brent benchmark down nearly 2 percent.
Other commodities, including iron ore, zinc and nickel, were trading lower on concerns of slowing demand in China. Copper fell to more than a six-year low.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/23/european-markets.html


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post Nov 24 2015, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 24 2015, 01:12 PM)
Any possibility to touch 4.20 tis week?
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hope so. i want to buy some. tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2015, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Nov 25 2015, 09:19 AM)
Later a lot of Ppl will post  rclxms.gif  or  thumbup.gif
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some puji, some will curse la... biggrin.gif

some will start dumping condom and glove counters?

exports will shrink?

tourism will go down?

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a 5% recovery is fine, 10% better.
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post Nov 25 2015, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Nov 25 2015, 09:50 AM)
Damage has been done. Prices of goods have gone up tremendously. Do you think the price of goods will reduce even if RM strengthens to 3.80?
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no.

on the contrary, i expect prices to rise further by jan 2016.

urban inflation is running high, biz people and traders need to raise margins to keep going.
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QUOTE(Showtime747 @ Nov 25 2015, 09:33 AM)
Traders starting to price in "the company's" resolution as the rumour becomes clearer now. RM will be stronger unless oil price fall to 30+, 20+ range. Faster short USD ! thumbup.gif
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just checked.

my bank, buying usd still 4.2215.

i wait for a buy at <4.20.

hope yr rumor will keep going! biggrin.gif

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post Nov 25 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Nov 25 2015, 10:12 AM)
What bank is that? Btw, do you get special rates or same rate like everyone.
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normal bank rate for equities investment.

they are much the same for local banks on any day.

tt is different, always more expensive, larger spread.
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post Nov 25 2015, 01:59 PM

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commodities, oil, emerging markets currencies... good reads:


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The ringgit jumped as much as 1.4 percent to a five-week high versus the dollar as the pickup in oil prices brightened prospects for Malaysia, Asia’s only major net exporter of crude. Singapore’s dollar strengthened 0.4 percent after data showed the economy unexpectedly grew last quarter. The yuan climbed 0.2 percent in Hong Kong’s offshore trading, narrowing the gap with the currency’s onshore exchange rate.
“Long-dollar positions against the offshore yuan are getting unwound as the dollar has been getting sold off in Asia,” said Khoon Goh, a Singapore-based senior foreign-exchange strategist at Australia & New Zealand Banking Group Ltd.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...st-buoys-havens


If slowing Chinese growth, now headed for its weakest pace in 25 years, put the first nail in the coffin of the super cycle, the Federal Reserve is about to hammer in the last.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...bout-to-bury-it
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post Nov 25 2015, 06:20 PM

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crude dropped 1.5% today after turkey downed russian warplane rally yesterday.

rm 4.22.

who says oil price not impt for rm? tongue.gif


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Credit Suisse expects the currency may be the big gainer, with the asset sale positive both for potential inflows and lower perceived political risks.

"The receipt of 9.8 billion ringgit is quite sizeable for capital account flows, at around a third of net financial outflows in the third quarter of this year," Credit Suisse said in a note Wednesday. "This will likely provide some support to the currency if the funds come after February."

The bank now expects the dollar will fetch 4.20 ringgit in three months and 4.40 ringgit in 12 months
, down from its previous forecasts of 4.50 and 4.60 ringgit respectively. At midday Thursday, the dollar was fetching 4.210 ringgit.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/11/25/1mdb-asset-...out-stocks.html


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