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post Apr 15 2017, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 14 2017, 04:08 PM)
If i were u i will push the CPU to the highest with max temp under 80c
use p95 26.6 to test on the CPU stability. This version is without AVX
Then use a 2-3 offset for the AVX
Dont bother too much on the AVX haha

BTW you better off asking those sifu s here
im still new on this 7700k oc
but what i experience is 7700k is very simple to oc
its the memory part that is headache hahaha
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Regarding our 4266 RAM being unable to reboot at the rated frequency, yesterday I've actually contacted both G.Skill and ASUS HQ for advice.
Based on their reply, they are suspecting that weak CPU IMC might be the culprit.
Weak IMC means you will have to increase the VCCSA, VCCIO and/or VDIMM.

Looks like our journey is still long way to go, probably need another CPU to test out or even worse, a proper (extreme) cooling to "open" the IMC. bangwall.gif
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post Apr 16 2017, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 15 2017, 01:44 PM)
I'm encountering some prob also here. I'm very stable on 4133 c18. I try to tighten up all the timings n lower to c17. Hci tends to fail at the 200% mark for 3 days trying to play around with the voltage n sub timing still no luck. Any idea?
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It sounds like you've hit the CAS wall at such a high memory frequency.
4133C17 is so tight AF.
I think 4133C18 should be good enough since you said it's stable.

Suddenly 4266C19 because of multiple failed reboot code 55/49, my OS corrupted sad.gif
I've got a few 7700K coming to sort out whether it's really due to weak IMC of my current chip. cool2.gif

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 16 2017, 04:37 PM)
Are u sponsored? Can get so many CPU to try! Am trying to mess with rtl iol now to see if works
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 16 2017, 04:43 PM)
Gskill just announced 4333 kit also haha
Get n try it out when available
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I also wish they are sponsored units lol.
Yeah that 4333 is crazy, can do 4500 19-19-19 on air

BTW, they also showcased 4500 16-16-16 during Computex 2016
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Not just that, G.Skill is currently binning for 4400 kit, coming soon.

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Bonus: DDR4-4400MHz 16GB (8GBx2)
As an extra bonus sneak-peek, the screenshot below shows DDR4-4400MHz being stress tested. The specifications are still under development, and would require some time to be ready for market production.

http://www.ocdrift.com/g-skill-announces-d...-4500mhz-speed/

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post Apr 17 2017, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 16 2017, 11:06 PM)
wow !
hahaha gonna order the 4500 when out woot!
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But... still need to figure out how to run this 4266 properly first bangwall.gif
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post Apr 18 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 18 2017, 02:21 AM)
gave up already hahah
saw a lot of ppl able to run 4133@1T with low voltage

i think we are having some weak imc

im like only 20% able to successfuly boot with 4266  rclxub.gif

whats the best stable speed n timing u get on the ram?
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Kinda busy these few days, so max I tried so far is 4133 19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.35v lol. Super-stable and reboots flawlessly.
Right now I'm having issue with the Apex, so have to stop there. sad.gif

Btw, here's reply from G.Skill HQ regarding the kit being unable to run at the rated 4266 speed.

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First and foremost, I’d like to make clear that because your CPU hasn’t been tested to confirm the IMC’s capability of supporting 4266MHz, it’s likely the main reason why only XMP isn’t working.

However, I can help you through steps to find out how high of a memory frequency your CPU can support.

1.      To begin, please make sure that you go into BIOS and reset settings to optimal defaults. We need to make sure we start off from the most basic of settings, then apply setting changes to memory. It’d be good if you get into the habit of tweaking memory settings first, before making changes to the CPU, like the CPU frequency or CPU related voltages.

2.      Go into Ai Tweaker tab, and enable XMP. Then go down to the DRAM Frequency, and adjust it down to DDR4-3600MHz and change the DRAM Voltage to 1.350V. Save and exit. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If your system can’t boot at 3600MHz, please let me know. The CPU’s IMC is likely very weak.

3.      If #2 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-3866MHz. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If DDR4-3866MHz was not successful, then you might want to check the CPU thermal paste to see if it’s dried. Or if your CPU cooling fan is screwed on too tightly or not evenly. Then try #2 again.

4.      If #3 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4000MHz. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If 4000MHz was not successful, then 3866MHz is likely your processor’s limit. In this case, make sure XMP is enabled, then change the following settings:
                                                              i.      DRAM Frequency = 3866MHz
                                                            ii.      DRAM Voltage = 1.35V
                                                            iii.      CL Timing = 18-19-19-39
                                                          iv.      Command Rate = 2

5.      If #4 was successful, go back into BIOS, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4133MHz and change the DRAM Voltage to 1.40V. Can your system boot successfully into Windows at this speed?
a.      If 4133MHz was not successful, then 4000MHz is likely the processor’s limit. In this case, make sure XMP is enabled, then change the following settings:
                                                              i.      DRAM Frequency = 4000MHz
                                                            ii.      DRAM Voltage = 1.35V
                                                            iii.      CL Timing = 18-19-19-39
                                                          iv.      Command Rate = 2

6.      If #5 was successful at 4133MHz, change DRAM Frequency to DDR4-4266MHz with DRAM Voltage of 1.40V. If you are still getting error 55 or 49, hit a white “Retry” button just below the Reset button on the motherboard, and see if this helps booting into the system under XMP settings.


Kindly let me know how far you can go with the steps above. Please do note that XMP is enabled in all cases before manually changing BIOS memory settings.
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 19 2017, 11:28 PM)
that's d highest i can manage... temp aside limit wise it is almost there already...  sweat.gif

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fuhh.. it's quite rare to see people playing with BCLK OC that high nowadays rclxms.gif
Vengeance LPX DDR4 spotted biggrin.gif
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post Apr 21 2017, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Apr 20 2017, 10:27 PM)
novice level at best only bro...  console.gif

3600MHz on ram is a no go, should i pump more vdimm (than exisiting 1.35v)? looseen timing to 17-19-19 didnt help. vccio & vsa already @ 1.2v.  sweat.gif

waitin for d delid kit to pop d chip for lower temp...  tongue.gif

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I'd give that VCCSA a bump, say 1.35v. It's try and error to find the right VCCSA + VCCIO.
Some CPU IMC really need that much to achieve stability at higher memory frequencies.
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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 24 2017, 03:43 AM)
Finally got 4133c17 stable 1000% hci
High sa and vccio voltage has made it unstable previously
Lowered it down to 1.2 and 1.15 and everything passed with no errors
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Good job! Seems that your chip has a strong IMC. rclxms.gif
Any screenshot?

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QUOTE(acther @ Apr 24 2017, 05:16 PM)
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There u go the timings.
Best i could do at 1.4v for vdimm
1.15v vccio
1.2 sa
btw this is mode 1
mode 2 seems slower
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Saw a hwbot member managed to do it better with a 3600C15 kit...
4133 17-17-17-1T @ 1.375v shocking.gif
Somehow he's not able to push the same RAM up to 4266

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post Apr 26 2017, 06:59 AM

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Benching 7700K with 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI.
Games now run ~50% faster biggrin.gif

CPU: Intel Core i7-7700K @ 5.06GHz @ 1.328v
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus IX APEX
RAM: G.SKill TridentZ RGB DDR4-4266MHz 2x8GB @ 4266MHz 19-19-19 @ 1.40v (XMP)
GPU: 2x ROG Strix GTX1080 Ti OC SLI @ 1708MHz GPU core/11100MHz VRAM (OC Mode)
PSU: Corsair AX1200i
Cooling: Custom WC

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GPU temps (open-air): 50/52C Idle; 67/74C load (BF1 Ultra DX12) (OC Mode):
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Total system power consumption: 673.6W load (OC Mode):
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Some OC fun with Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR4-3466 memory + ROG Apex + 7700K.

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RAM and board are strong, managed to get DDR4 pushed to 4133MHz @ 1.40v with minimal tweaking (timings are not optimized yet of course)

DDR4 3600 MHz 16-18-18-36-2T @ 1.35v:
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DDR4 3866 MHz 17-18-18-36-2T @ 1.35v:
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DDR4 4000 MHz 18-19-19-39-2T @ 1.35v:
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DDR4 4133 MHz 19-19-19-39-2T @ 1.35v:
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DDR4 4133 MHz 18-19-19-39-2T @ 1.40v:
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More coming soon... stay tuned
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QUOTE(starz92 @ May 23 2017, 02:15 PM)
Sifu,
Gonna get the following rig and start to OC by myself through the guides available online. Do I need to add anything to my build as I am going to place order preferably tonight.

i7 7700k
Asus Strix Z270G
Thermaltake Riing 3.0 240 Liquid Cooling
GTX1080 MSI Armor
PSU 650W G 80 Full Modular
M.2 SSD WD Blue 500GB
1TB WD Blue HDD
8GB RAM X 2 (Either Trident 3200 or 2600 normal one)

I supposed I have some few hundreds to spare is there any need to further improve it?
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That note that the Strix Z270G board doesn't offer a Debug LED that's supposed to be useful for troubleshooting error in the event of OC failure.
Other than that should be fine. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(frozenkid @ Jun 1 2017, 10:56 AM)
Hi Sifu's,

I am planning to over clock my i5 7600k. I got up to 4.6 @ 1.3v stable using the auto overclock feature on my Asus Z270F mobo. Temps was around 60-70 running on my AIO Corsair H100i v2.

Any tips or guide on doing the overclock manually? Im looking to get around 4.8 to 5.0. My biggest concern is what kind of temp I should look at and the max amount of power I should go to get those results. Thank you.
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Usually auto overclocking will set excessive voltage more than your CPU requires.
For 5.0GHz, I'd recommend to try out the 5GHz overclocking preset available in the UEFI BIOS. Save and reboot.
Your CPU Core Voltage is now on auto mode, you might want to reduce it to 1.25-1.3v depending on your chip and cooling limit.

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Run a stressful CPU-intensive benchmark such as X264 FHD Benchmark.
If your cooling is not able to handle the heat (>100c), reduce the CPU speed to 4.9GHz or 4.8GHz while at the same time decrease the CPU Core Voltage until you obtain the lowest possible voltage that's stable at that CPU frequency.

For more info, you might want to have a read on the OC tips and guides in the post #1 of this thread:
The Kaby Lake Overclocking Guide by Raja@ASUS
GIGABYTE Z270 (Kaby Lake) Overclocking Guide
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QUOTE(frozenkid @ Jun 2 2017, 09:52 AM)
Hi Bro,

Thanks for the insight. I did try the pre-set for 5.0Ghz. The voltage was automatic as you said and it was set at 1.4v.

I was able to boot and used Aida64 to do a simple stress test. Temps was hovering around 70+celcius. However after pass 5 min into the test It went to blue screen. I did not have time to trouble shoot so I reverted back to standard config. But my guess it blue screen because of not enough voltage. So concluded that my chip may not be able to push at 5.0 in low voltage. That's why I want to do a manual over clock.

My question is, would it be blue screen even if the voltage are too high?
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1.4v is kinda high for 5.0GHz, but it depends on the chip.
Some chips really love more voltage, not all 7600K can run 5.0GHz stable at low vCore.

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In your case, it looks like your chip could be a lemon. But I hope it's not smile.gif
Boot into the UEFI BIOS to check your VID (stock voltage with everything set to defaults).
Based on my experience, a good overclocking Kaby Lake CPU should have a low VID of not more than 1.2v.
These chips, specifically the 7700K in my case, should be able to clock 5.0GHz at 1.3v or lower.

Did you monitor the load vCore and what are the lowest and highest values?
FYI, vCore will fluctuate depending on the load level and the Load-line Calibration (LLC) you're using.
It could be that the lowest vCore is too low for your 5.0GHz OC at certain load time that it will trigger an insufficient voltage-related BSOD.

Speaking of the BSOD, can you see what it says on the screen? It could give you some clues on what's actually happening.
Could be other issues as well such as wrong BIOS settings (need to manually alter the loaded 5.0GHz OC profile), bad DDR4 memory etc...
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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 09:16 AM)
Guys, I am facing frequent BSOD in window 10 whenever I am trying to use the default preset at my MOBO to OC my rig a little. Most problem start when I launch a game.
My rig as below :
i7-7700k
Asus Z270E
Thermaltake Water Cooling 3.0 240L
G.Skill Trident 3200 8GB X 2

I have very minimal OC knowledge so I choose to just use the preset at my MOBO. I tried the XMP Profile to enable my 3200Mhz but I encounter BSOD during gaming. I also tried the 5gb OC preset and also encounter BSOD. Resetting to default setting seems to solve the problem.
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Hi bro,

By the way, what "default preset" did you use? What are your core/cache/RAM frequencies and core/RAM/VCCSA (System Agent)/VCCIO voltages?

Getting BSOD with XMP @ 3200MHz is sometimes related to insufficient voltage issue. Try give the VCCSA and VCCIO a bump like 1.25-1.35v and 1.175-1.25v. It's chip dependent, every CPU has different strength of Integrated Memory Controller (IMC). Weak CPU IMC will require higher values to achieve stability and vice versa.

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As for "5.0GHz OC preset", how much is your core voltage (vCore)? It could be insufficient voltage, try increasing the CPU Core Voltage a bit. Again, it's also chip dependent. Every chip was born unique, hence they have different VID (stock voltage at default clocks). So to find the best voltage for 5.0GHz OC you will have to go with trial and error.


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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 10:07 AM)
Hey bro, tq for the reply.
The XMP Profile I just click the XMP Profile 1 (the only choice available at my Bios). Not sure of the setting but will look into it when I am home.
I realised that I am only able to choose either XMP or "5.0GHz OC preset" ? Will the 5.0GHz OC enable my RAM to run at 3200 Mhz?
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You can choose to select either one or both of them together.
Afaik, loading the 5.0 OC preset will not automatically activate the XMP profile, and vice versa.
To use both, you will need to firstly select XMP profile and then load the 5.0GHz OC preset.
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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 10:58 AM)
will selecting 5.0Ghz OC preset after XMP profile reset the XMP Profile or both can work together?
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As mentioned earlier, both can work together.
But must in XMP and then 5.0GHz order.
The 5.0GHz OC Preset will not overwrite RAM-related settings but only the CPU-related settings.
You can try it in UEFI BIOS.

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QUOTE(starz92 @ Jun 3 2017, 03:10 PM)
Just now tried xmp then 5.0Ghz preset together with the voltage setting as shown in your screenshot but unable to in to window. Now I just used xmp with your voltage setting and can work smoothly already. Ltr will try on the 5.0Ghz preset again
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Although the 5.0GHz OC preset will automatically set everything for you, some CPUs require further fine-tuning particularly the voltages.
I think you need to play around with the Digi+VRM settings such as the CPU Load-line Calibration (LLC) and other VRM power:

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QUOTE(frozenkid @ Jun 6 2017, 09:25 AM)
Hi Guys,

Well here are my latest update over the weekend.

I am pretty pleased with the results. I am stable at 4.8Ghz with 1.35volts after 4 hours of stress test on Aida64 and 3 hours on intel extreme stress test. I am however facing issues with ROG stress test tool. The error I keep getting is "Luxmark is unresponding". I read somewhere that it is bugged.

The leading up to this results there are funny issues I faced. I did try the 5.0Ghz preset settings from asus but the voltage was set at 4.2volts which is too high for my taste. I tried bring the voltage down but anything below 4.2 would crash once I start Aida64. Even if I put 4.9Ghz at below 1.40v would crash.

What I find ironic is that even it is a 0.1 difference but the voltage increment is substantial.

Well as for temps @ 4.8Ghz I am hovering around 70-85 Degress on max load. It is below 80 degrees for most time during gaming.

I have a question. I am now using manual on my cpu volt/cache @ 1.35v. I plan to change it to adaptive. My stock volt is below 1.2v. So from what ive learnt is that 1.35v - 1.2v = +0.15v to be placed in the adaptive field. Can someone advise me on this? thank you.

Btw I will be uploading all my screen shots tonight.
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Yes, that's how the adaptive method works smile.gif
You can also enter a value of 1.35 in the Additional Turbo Mode CPU Core Voltage box.

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QUOTE(cattscratch @ Jun 17 2017, 05:29 AM)
Hi Sifus,

My rig is i7-6700K and Asus z170 Pro Gaming

I set my bios to 1.280 VID at 4300MHZ
I ran all bench mark and stress test and it passed good.
It is a mild overclock for my kind of rig...most would do 4500Mhz or even 5k with higher voltages.

My question is...everytime I boot up my computer
1 in 5 boot ups...it will not boot up and on AUTO will reBOOT(like pressing the restart button) and then 2nd time will boot up fine.
Only happens once every 5 times I switch on my computer, other 4 times is normal successful boot ups.

Is this ok? Or do I have to increase my voltage a little more for a stable boot up process. Like 100% success rate error free boot up...
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Hi,

What benchmark and stress test did you run?
If those were CPU-intensive benchmark tools such as XTU, Cinebench, Realbench, etc, then I believe CPU voltage shouldn't be an issue here.
It could be a RAM-related issues such insufficient RAM/VCCSA/VCCIO voltages, wrong timing settings etc that your software didn't stress enough RAM.
Did you also experience the same auto reboot issue at default CPU/RAM/etc settings?

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