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leonhang
post Sep 3 2015, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(tropicanagolf @ Sep 3 2015, 12:39 AM)
Kesian Singapore, I think it's harder for them to vote PAP out compared to us voting BN out. Their gerrymandering kuat. They need bersih
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post Sep 3 2015, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(bigmac999 @ Sep 3 2015, 12:17 AM)
hence DAP also in the end similar to BN
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post Sep 3 2015, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(WooTz @ Sep 2 2015, 10:49 PM)
Inspired from Bersih most definitely, kiasu spirit ftw

PAP is done.
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as usual, oppositions may get 60% of total votes, but only get 5% of parliament seats. very kesian them. and people complain about Malaysia election system.
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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 3 2015, 12:44 AM)
So many reason why they hate PAP:

- Cronism among PAP families. Ministership is being passed over to family members
- Housing - you are paying HDB flats until you are retired but you didnt really own it
- Freedom of expression - media liberty is zero and at the bottom in world ranking
- CPF - you cant make full deduction when you retired. WTF
- Rising cost of living - they expect PAP to share more of the state wealth
- Foreigner - They take local jobs and now making up 40%! of their total population
- NS - Their young people will fight for the foreigners when there is a war.
- Transparency - billions lost by Temasek but one answered
- Democracy - which is quite non-existant. Oppo leaders being sued until bankrupt and threatened.

And lastly..

Even though PAP performed like god and fix the issue above, it was just a matter of trying something new - they want to feel the CHANGE...it just human nature
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Thanks FYI...

"The other side is always greener"
It seems like SG similar like bolehland here. Bottomline, their eco is UP comparing to .... doh.gif
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post Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 3 2015, 12:44 AM)
So many reason why they hate PAP:

- Cronism among PAP families. Ministership is being passed over to family members
- Housing - you are paying HDB flats until you are retired but you didnt really own it
- Freedom of expression - media liberty is zero and at the bottom in world ranking
- CPF - you cant make full deduction when you retired. WTF
- Rising cost of living - they expect PAP to share more of the state wealth
- Foreigner - They take local jobs and now making up 40%! of their total population
- NS - Their young people will fight for the foreigners when there is a war.
- Transparency - billions lost by Temasek but one answered
- Democracy - which is quite non-existant. Oppo leaders being sued until bankrupt and threatened.

And lastly..

Even though PAP performed like god and fix the issue above, it was just a matter of trying something new - they want to feel the CHANGE...it just human nature
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i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.




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post Sep 3 2015, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(neoFluidic @ Sep 2 2015, 11:32 PM)
Family business best wehhh

Singapore is like a business passing down from 1 to
Another gen

Every family relative members has a slice of a kek
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but the thing is, the cronnies prepare their children to be ready for the tasks, send them to elite schools, make sure they study hard & get straight A's, president scholarships, Ivy college, graduate with 1st class honors Hall of Fame, come back work in giant corporates, become CEOs, only after that they get to inherit Singapore.

Malaysia on the other hand, party all day all night long, buy themselves into Oxford, comeback straight main politiks.

you know the difference between both?
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:12 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM)
i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.
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No need to make comparison with Malaysia and from Malaysian perspective or point of view as we are discussing the reason why SINGAPOREANS hate PAP.

I dont think Singaporeans is using Malaysia as a benchmark on why they should 'bersyukur' to PAP. if they want to make any benchmark they will use the other developed states similar like Singapore in terms of size like Denmark or even Luxembourg
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM)
i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.
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PAP macai spotted.



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post Sep 3 2015, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 01:02 AM)
but the thing is, the cronnies prepare their children to be ready for the tasks, send them to elite schools, make sure they study hard & get straight A's, president scholarships, Ivy college, graduate with 1st class honors Hall of Fame, come back work in giant corporates, become CEOs, only after that they get to inherit Singapore.

Malaysia on the other hand, party all day all night long, buy themselves into Oxford, comeback straight main politiks.

you know the difference between both?
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Again, why you comparing to Malaysia? You think Singaporeans even compared how PAP performed based on what BN performed in Malaysia?

What you do is like BN minister asking us to bersyukur by comparing us with Zimbabwe
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(acer7254 @ Sep 3 2015, 01:13 AM)
PAP macai spotted.
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For sure he was NOT a Singaporean
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM)
i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.
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macai spotted

US economy stay strong but the gomen always change hand every 5 years

UK economy stay strong but the gomen always change hand every 5 years


so why can't Singapore....????

& why compare with Malaysia..??? they shud compare themselves with other developed country
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(Stigonboard @ Sep 3 2015, 01:14 AM)
For sure he was NOT a Singaporean
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So he bj PAP for fun?

How's gay. doh.gif
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:26 AM

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Bersih is nothing compare to this mang
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post Sep 3 2015, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(patnam @ Sep 2 2015, 11:10 PM)
if SG this time change government, all malaysian workers there sure ho se liao...!!
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They are not going to drastically change their immigration policy over night even if they win, and they don't have a chance of winning at all, not to mention the fact that they are not even contesting for half of the seats
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:05 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM)
i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.
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Housing, you don't get it. In singapore, the HDB is effectively a long term rented house, you never own the hdb flat, you don't even get strata title...

CPF vs. EPF, yes in malaysia we can withdraw the full amount once reach 56 years. No such thing in singapore (min. balance is SGD200k, which you need to maintain until you die. and that's why you still see singaporeans work until 70-80 years. bcos they need to maintain the min. balance)

also EPF give the dividen for your entire account 1 and account 2 contribution. SIngapore only give the minimum amount (2.5%) for certain account in your CPF only...

but i'm surprised you didn't know about our EPF system... doh.gif

Singapore NS is actual military training for men, ours is effectively a summer camp.

it's not temasek that lost billions, it's the other government entity, GIC. but this is bcos of USA recession in 2008, of which GIC is incharge of all SIngapore's foreign investments (temasek is in charge of local).

also another thing that Malaysia win over singapore = free or subsidised healthcare.

in singapore, you need to pay even in govt. owned hospitals. and 1 account in your CPF is dedicated for medical purposes (medishield?), so that if you fall sick and your insurance not enough, only then you can withdraw CPF...

and yes in singapore i believe it's mandatory to have insurance unlike malaysia...

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QUOTE(advocado @ Sep 3 2015, 12:59 AM)
i don't see how it differentiate or can be worse than Malaysia, except Singaporeans generally can live a better life than typical Malaysians.

Cronism in Singapore, at least those Cronnies are doing their job well, compared to Malaysia Cronnies.
Housing, most people going for 40 years loan nowadays. most are leasehold.
Freedom of expression in Malaysia? kek.
CPF, not sure whether there's full CPF deduction for over retirement age in Malaysia? But tax is higher than Singapore.
Rise of Living Cost, which country don't have this problem?
Foreigners, locals don't want to do the job, got choice? They also need investors, so money talks, anywhere you go, you see locals working as kuli for foreigners.
NS Malaysia also have, of course way shorter and is 1 time shot, no need defend country, so can say better for locals, but worse for the country.
Temasek lost billions, but how many trillions they made? Compared to 1MBD rm2.6billion?
Democracy - same thing. but Malaysia ruling party is not so smart, so opposition can make clean statements, in Singapore PAP too smart, opposition is frustrated so make mistakes.

At least PAP doing something, while BN, just same business as usual.

I wouldn't say Sinkies are stupid, but they expecting more & more, and seeing how current world situation is, they are becoming unreasonable. Solution is to boot these good for nothing ungrateful SOBs out and replace them with FTs that know how to appreciate, like Malaysians/PRC/Hongkongers/Indians. Those Sinkies can go migrate to Aussie or OZ.
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thumbup.gif You have more sense than most here. biggrin.gif
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Sep 3 2015, 01:19 AM)
US economy stay strong but the gomen always change hand every 5 years
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eh, not 4 years meh? iirc clinton, bush and obama were all reelected, so that's 8 years each

This post has been edited by cyhborg: Sep 3 2015, 02:12 AM
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Sep 3 2015, 02:10 AM)
eh, not 4 years meh? iirc clinton, bush and obama were all reelected, so that's 8 years
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owh is it?

OK imma wrong at that

but u stil get the message, no??

US can change their party & president despite strong economy, so why cant Singapore..???

what to scare about with the economy if gomen change hand...???

its not that the oppo is ISIS or Taliban inspired party
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Sep 3 2015, 02:13 AM)
owh is it?

OK imma wrong at that

but u stil get the message, no??

US can change their party & president despite strong economy, so why cant Singapore..???

what to scare about with the economy if gomen change hand...???

its not that the oppo is ISIS or Taliban inspired party
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post Sep 3 2015, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Sep 3 2015, 02:07 AM)
thumbup.gif You have more sense than most here. biggrin.gif
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topkek lots of wrong info and you claim his post makes sense?

he didn't even know our epf can withdraw full amount unlike singapore's....

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