Can you recommend me programs that can detect key logger in my system.
Much appreciated.

And btw keylogger is the only program that can record your key strokes and steal your password right

Antivirus will detect keyloggers.
Are you using any AV's currently?

most of AV can detect key-loger. but there are some key logger that are hard to be detected. i have tried to use Norton to scan but cannot. the only way is to remove manually.
most of key logger will save all info in one file then send to an email add. so you should have internet traffic controll progeam running and detect any in/out package. of course u have to eliminate your web surfing that time. you may find some clue to remove the key logger.
wish u luck,

IMO , keylogger is classified as spyware programs , if you use spydefense or AVG anti-spyware should be able to remove all

You can try Spy Sweeper. It is a bit expensive but it is highly rated

highly rated , yeah , maybe a cocktail of softwares will do

1. Spybot
2. Arovax Anti-Spyware
3. AVG Anti-Spyware
4. SpySweeper
5. Hijackthis with tutorials and manuals

lavasoft ad aware se best...
must be updated always

yeah , but one is usually not enough , because of the signatures

Question!

Zone Alarm detected a keylogger- Driver\SynTP at system32\drivers. Does it spell trouble?

If ZA detects it, YES. Quite a number of Malware hide in the system32\drivers folder in Win XP. If possible, do the following:-

1. HijackThis Log
2. Kaspersky / TrendMicro Online Scanner Log
3. System Repair Engineer Log

Post a topic at Technical Support (I believe you know that, right, CrazyNut?).

Cheers!

Hi natakaasd, thanks for the reply.

Aww, and it was on my brand new Dell 6400 as well..I made sure I have my firewall on before I surfed the net..anyhow, will do the scans and post in Tech Support.

Thanks once again!

there is so many keylogger on the website,
but very hard to find the free one..
always need for registration,

but i'm very worry about keylogger in the cybercafe(cc)
do you think that many cc owner's install this program and steal our password email, and all information when we using their cc???

how to prevent this??
suggestion needed...

Prevention? Use Virtual Keyboards... No doubt, quite a number of SMART Keyloggers can trace down to everything. They Print Screen, Trace Vitual Keyboards and everything. I guess for safety sake, Don't Use the computer at all. Hide in the mountains. LOL. Joking only. Cheers!

There are hardware keyloggers too, but I don't think we want to get into that

Hardware Keyloggers? Oh bother. Don't use a keyboard. . CHeers!

khkhokohkohkho..
without keyboard, how the comp will be turn on??

you need to use keyboard to turn on the pc meh?
unless you need password to access the pc.

Or maybe you need to type when you do your work...

Windows On-Screen Keyboard... Lol! xD

yes comp with password protected,

Hmm just a doubt, can hardware keyloggers capture wireless keyboard inputs? since it's not parallel ports.

I feel they can. Some of the Hardware keyloggers use TEMPEST to detect keystrokes. This is the MOST Advance method, and very few methods to prevent it. But I guess, If so desperate until use TEMPEST, , Don't bother, much easier. Cheers!

This post has been edited by natakaasd: Jan 3 2007, 06:44 AM

Hmm... Dunno if this is the right quote but...



It seems that it's actually used by the government and now for publicity use.
That also means nothing is impossible in this world...

So, Privacy is no longer private. (=.=) Bad news, isn't it? Cheers...

Ah, anyway I don't think those keyloggers will be installed on our pcs right?
It isn't that we're using credit cards or paypal accounts...
We usually forum, chat, find stuffs and etc...

I don't think that they'll keylog us to see our private "chatting" right?

Last but not least, keylogs are nasty and irritant. Once infected very hard to remove.

are u sure about this??
how about if using anti keylogger??
i think all av can detect threat that made by key logger,
but the av must update always...

(=.=) I disagree. Keyloggers can be removed, but for some cases, it is DAMN hard. Imagine having the keylogger working together with a Rootkit. Your computer is really condemned for a very long removal process...

Not every AV can remove Keyloggers. Some are practically useless. Cheers!

I don't personally think so.
Obviously you haven't use *undetected* keyloggers, I mean undetected.
There are private coded stuffs which hell lots of AV can't detect during release until users report that particular file.

Wait a min, who you're disagreeing with? Just to make sure.

thanks a lot for your info..
that news for me..
so u can give example of name key logger that can't detect by av&anti key logger??
just to know..

To name a few:
• Perfect keylogger pro edition - recoded and re-edited for customer
• *underground* submissions such as elitec0ders keylogger, which is quite stealth and injects into explorer.exe

*Forgot to close tag

This post has been edited by eXPeri3nc3: Jan 4 2007, 11:31 AM

have u try ardamax keylogger??
it is can detect or not?
sometimes santi psyware also can detect the key logger files and heal it???
it is true??

No, I had not tried it before.

Yes, sometimes anti spywares can remove it... seldom and rare.

Who I am disagreeing with? LOL. scorps, not eXPeri3nc3. HAHA.

In fact, injecting into Explorer.EXE is not that hard to detect . Use SREng. It will show every thread in every Running Program (PID). Cheers!

hahahha..
i know becoz i'm still newbie



how about that picture??
comment

The so called "Invisibility" is COMMON features in Malware (Spyware/Adware/Malicious Code/Trojan Horses etc) itself.

The Invisibility against Process Viewers. This aspect needs to be tested. Most of the time, It is purely Thread injection OR API Hooking. Cheers!

i don't get what u said above,
explain more..
please,

Some can hide their PID don't forget

Stealth, decides to stay in root and hides itself from detection, uses injection and rootkit to hide it's PID.

As the above.

As the above.

but sometimes key logger also good for monitoring our kids that surf internet,
we will know what they do when surf internet,
and if we see in the keylogger viewer that they go to porn sites,
then we can give them a warning..

but when i scan with avg av, it still can detect and heal it??
how to make it invisible to all av??
hhehehehe

Many AVs use signature to detect malware. If the Keylogger is NOT Blacklisted by the particular AV company (As your case, AVG [You ought to change, it is not that good anymore. my opinion. Cheers!]), You CAN"T detect it. I am not sure about NOD32, as it uses heuristics instead. Cheers!

Depends on how you wanna use it la... .
Monitor your gf to know what the fish she's been bitchin around

I know some ways... But not teaching you .
Those "guys" have way elite ways to do so.

yeah.

Many other ways -- filename, file size...

yeah, but some AV's still can detect it...
They modify the headers... API's... Loops...

do you say i need to change my av??
right??

bro what is PID,api??

its kinda dangerous these...i know bcoz i used once on some pc in labs and managed to get some ppls friendster accounts. i did a few things, but that was me few years ago...-nothing major done.

now even thinking of keyloggers make me paranoid. i use on screen keyboard to fill in login info on bank sites. is that safe?

and how about this??

i not try this yet,
who have try this before,can share the experience??

DUDE, google!

API Definition from Google


PID Definition from Google


This looks awfully familiar, not very sure tho'...
Is it PKL?

not,
i can't tell to you that name ...
sori bro...
but i think u can find it by yourself in the internet

and here also something i want to share,


very interesting,but i don't try this settings yet,


but i think maybe the firewall can deny this setting and also the av inside the computer

This post has been edited by scorps: Jan 7 2007, 02:51 PM

Oh yeahz, btw, if there's a GUI for a kl... means... it sucks... lol
Hard coded with command lines only is hard to detect...

In fact, hard coded Keyloggers are only "usable" by the pros. So, we have GUI to help the "not-so-pros" like me and you. HAHA. Who wants to be a hacker by profession? Be a pro first. LOL.

Do not underestimate the good and bad about Keyloggers. You might be able to snoop at others, but beware, some keyloggers are REAL keyloggers. The author snoops at you instead. Cheers!

then how can u differenciate them?

Don't differentiate between them. Just don't use them. unless of GREAT necessity. LOL. Cheers!

hehehhehe..
this quite dangerous thing...

Lol, came across a few. Lol.

Agree I use it just to test on how keylogger works and I keylogged my own pc as I'm away from my house that time. My friends really did some stuffs to mah pc and later I flame them back like hell

If you don't know what you're doing, you're actually playing with fire.

does formatting the HDD can remove keylogger?

i think yes,
but u need to confirm if the .exe file still can activate itself after u format,
and maybe .exe files in another partition,
so u need t clean all files in your hdd disk by scanning witha antikeylogge..

Agree, and that's why you need to run a full system scan with your AV's to determine that it's clean.