QUOTE(wodenus @ Jan 6 2007, 10:35 PM)
Many other ways -- filename, file size... 
yeah, but some AV's still can detect it...They modify the headers... API's... Loops...
Detecting Keylogger, Which program does that?
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They modify the headers... API's... Loops... |
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Jan 6 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(natakaasd @ Jan 6 2007, 02:31 PM) Many AVs use signature to detect malware. If the Keylogger is NOT Blacklisted by the particular AV company (As your case, AVG [You ought to change, it is not that good anymore. my opinion. Cheers!]), You CAN"T detect it. I am not sure about NOD32, as it uses heuristics instead. Cheers! do you say i need to change my av??right?? bro what is PID,api?? |
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Jan 7 2007, 05:42 AM
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its kinda dangerous these...i know bcoz i used once on some pc in labs and managed to get some ppls friendster accounts. i did a few things, but that was me few years ago...-nothing major done.
now even thinking of keyloggers make me paranoid. i use on screen keyboard to fill in login info on bank sites. is that safe? |
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Jan 7 2007, 07:48 AM
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 and how about this??  i not try this yet, who have try this before,can share the experience?? |
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Jan 7 2007, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 6 2007, 11:40 PM) do you say i need to change my av?? DUDE, google!right?? bro what is PID,api?? API Definition from Google QUOTE Application Programming Interface. The interface (calling conventions) by which an application program accesses operating system and other services. An API is defined at source code level and provides a level of abstraction between the application and the kernel (or other privileged utilities) to ensure the portability of the code. PID Definition from Google QUOTE Process Identifier; each process has a unique PID assigned by the operating system QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 7 2007, 07:48 AM) and how about this?? i not try this yet, who have try this before,can share the experience?? Is it PKL? |
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Jan 7 2007, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jan 7 2007, 01:28 PM) This looks awfully familiar, not very sure tho'... not,Is it PKL? i can't tell to you that name ... sori bro... but i think u can find it by yourself in the internet and here also something i want to share,  very interesting,but i don't try this settings yet,  but i think maybe the firewall can deny this setting and also the av inside the computer This post has been edited by scorps: Jan 7 2007, 02:51 PM |
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Jan 7 2007, 09:00 PM
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QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 7 2007, 02:49 PM) not, Oh yeahz, btw, if there's a GUI for a kl... means... it sucks... lol i can't tell to you that name ... sori bro... but i think u can find it by yourself in the internet and here also something i want to share, very interesting,but i don't try this settings yet, but i think maybe the firewall can deny this setting and also the av inside the computer  Hard coded with command lines only is hard to detect...  |
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Jan 8 2007, 08:52 AM
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In fact, hard coded Keyloggers are only "usable" by the pros. So, we have GUI to help the "not-so-pros" like me and you. HAHA. Who wants to be a hacker by profession? Be a pro first. LOL.
Do not underestimate the good and bad about Keyloggers. You might be able to snoop at others, but beware, some keyloggers are REAL keyloggers. The author snoops at you instead. Cheers! |
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Jan 8 2007, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(natakaasd @ Jan 8 2007, 08:52 AM) In fact, hard coded Keyloggers are only "usable" by the pros. So, we have GUI to help the "not-so-pros" like me and you. HAHA. Who wants to be a hacker by profession? Be a pro first. LOL. then how can u differenciate them?Do not underestimate the good and bad about Keyloggers. You might be able to snoop at others, but beware, some keyloggers are REAL keyloggers. The author snoops at you instead. Cheers! |
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Jan 8 2007, 09:54 AM
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Don't differentiate between them. Just don't use them. unless of GREAT necessity. LOL. Cheers!
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Jan 8 2007, 10:13 AM
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QUOTE(natakaasd @ Jan 8 2007, 09:52 AM) You might be able to snoop at others, but beware, some keyloggers are REAL keyloggers. The author snoops at you instead. Cheers! hehehhehe..this quite dangerous thing... |
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Jan 8 2007, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(natakaasd @ Jan 8 2007, 08:52 AM) In fact, hard coded Keyloggers are only "usable" by the pros. So, we have GUI to help the "not-so-pros" like me and you. HAHA. Who wants to be a hacker by profession? Be a pro first. LOL. Lol, came across a few. Lol. Do not underestimate the good and bad about Keyloggers. You might be able to snoop at others, but beware, some keyloggers are REAL keyloggers. The author snoops at you instead. Cheers! QUOTE(natakaasd @ Jan 8 2007, 09:54 AM) Don't differentiate between them. Just don't use them. unless of GREAT necessity. LOL. Cheers! Agree  I use it just to test on how keylogger works and I keylogged my own pc as I'm away from my house that time. My friends really did some stuffs to mah pc and later I flame them back like hell  QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 8 2007, 10:13 AM) hehehhehe.. If you don't know what you're doing, you're actually playing with fire.this quite dangerous thing... |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:37 PM
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does formatting the HDD can remove keylogger?
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Jan 12 2007, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(cashboy @ Jan 12 2007, 01:37 PM) does formatting the HDD can remove keylogger? i think yes,but u need to confirm if the .exe file still can activate itself after u format, and maybe .exe files in another partition, so u need t clean all files in your hdd disk by scanning witha antikeylogge.. |
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Jan 12 2007, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(scorps @ Jan 12 2007, 12:52 PM) i think yes, Agree, and that's why you need to run a full system scan with your AV's to determine that it's clean. but u need to confirm if the .exe file still can activate itself after u format, and maybe .exe files in another partition, so u need t clean all files in your hdd disk by scanning witha antikeylogge..  |
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