Those who missed military segment in Merdeka
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 Aug 31 2015, 05:30 PM, updated 11y ago
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. Apehal nk kecoh aku patriotic ke tak.....country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself  |
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Kind of embarrassing... in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army and they are overtaking with US help.
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Aug 31 2015, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. calm your tetek for god sake country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself  it's not like u go bersih rally, kondem bijan at /k, whining about currency at /k, then najib will gonna resign the next day and admiring military stuff = patriotic? This post has been edited by kerolzarmyfanboy: Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:30 PM) |
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banyak lagi pakai batu rupanya
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Aug 31 2015, 05:45 PM
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We shud get more budget for military.
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Aug 31 2015, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:41 PM) do u see the difference between last time celebration and now? last tine hype was high, now? u judge yourself so?  i dun really care about the celebrations or presence of Najib at dataran..i'm just in for the military parade.. lots of us are too and what's with the 'hate gov = unpatriotic' mentality of yours? hate the gov, love the country |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:41 PM) do u see the difference between last time celebration and now? last tine hype was high, now? u judge yourself calm ur balls....its alright if u have opinions against the leadership or whataver.. but government or in this case institutions are not attached to party. the armies and policemen are all consider DIRAJA...ROyal....Im sorry I think you made a mistake... |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 31 2015, 05:46 PM) so? Agree!.. Despite the ruling govt we shud still support our military boys. i dun really care about the celebrations or presence of Najib at dataran..i'm just in for the military parade.. lots of us are too and what's with the 'hate gov = unpatriotic' mentality of yours? hate the gov, love the country |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:48 PM
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Good thing not deployed during bersih
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To all arm forces...policemen...u have my due respect...
But always I felt BOMBA left out one... I respect BOMBA a lot...Im working in hospital....lots of time they sacrified their own safety for others..any BOMBA lads here?? |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:49 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:46 PM) calm ur balls....its alright if u have opinions against the leadership or whataver.. but government or in this case institutions are not attached to party. Too bad DrM have turn the DiRaja army force under minister of defend power.the armies and policemen are all consider DIRAJA...ROyal....Im sorry I think you made a mistake... Now the DiRaja just a name...... |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM)  QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM) |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:38 PM) Kind of embarrassing... in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army and they are overtaking with US help. I though it would be burma or laos who had worse military. Our defense budget is considered unlimited. |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:48 PM) To all arm forces...policemen...u have my due respect... true true But always I felt BOMBA left out one... I respect BOMBA a lot...Im working in hospital....lots of time they sacrified their own safety for others..any BOMBA lads here??  Bomba always get left out..poor lads.. most of the time JPAM take the front page |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:52 PM
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Those people who hangat-hangat pi Bersih, then now talking sh*t about our National Day military parade....are the biggest hypocrites of all.
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Aug 31 2015, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:50 PM) I though it would be burma or laos who had worse military. Our defense budget is considered unlimited. If unlimited we shud get aircraft carrier lo. I think as a percentage of gdp we dun spend much on the military |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM
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Penat tunggu turn.....
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Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM
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Nicely done. I think I'd have to be actually standing there to appreciate more.
 Pink berets = ? Blue Berets = ? |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:55 PM
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mana girl soldier, girl police
why u so racist i demand female version!!!!! else lipot This post has been edited by meistsh_musical: Aug 31 2015, 05:55 PM |
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QUOTE(professor_snape @ Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM) bos, have our sniper snipe anyone? if you know, how far was it? love those gilli suit. check out sulu invasion, got some headshots there |
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Aug 31 2015, 05:55 PM
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Xda show new toys ke???
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Aug 31 2015, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE(professor_snape @ Aug 31 2015, 06:57 PM) wah... sniper headshot. from what i read, sniper usually aim for tge vital organ in the body because easy to target compared to head. dem bersepai mcm eksiden moto klau headshot. u play COD sniper, u can see how hard they need to aim. |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:02 PM
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Aug 31 2015, 06:03 PM
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Who decide on the pink color hat anyway? seriously? pink?
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Aug 31 2015, 06:04 PM
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our army quite gooding yow
feel safe now 10/10 sniper ftw! |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(professor_snape @ Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM) bos, have our sniper snipe anyone? if you know, how far was it? love those gilli suit. Yup..... as far as I know..... in modern history (minus communist era)... somalia, aden, lahad datu & bukit jenalek. |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:13 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM) some got pulis, some got stafoc and from the picture they look like not line up properly.. |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(rudduan @ Aug 31 2015, 05:55 PM) Xda show new toys ke??? 2.66 billions tak distribute kt sapa2 lagi.... |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM) Pink berets = PASKAL Blue Berets = PASKAU |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:19 PM
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Politics aside, total respect to our army and police force. Every year their parade are worth to watch.
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Aug 31 2015, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(statikinetic @ Aug 31 2015, 05:52 PM) Those people who hangat-hangat pi Bersih, then now talking sh*t about our National Day military parade....are the biggest hypocrites of all. When you realise how shit our military parade is then you know why... all the crap hardware bought along with the so-called 'technology transfers'*... Sukhois have no foreseeable replacement, infantry still so weaksauce, armed helicopters also didn't have until recently...The most infuriating part is that we're so close. Scorpene is an ok sub, Gowind delivers a lot of bang, A400M and Sukhoi also first class... but all the songlap and the USD CGPA means the whole army is just a halfhearted mess... *Technology transfer is so that we can build the stuff domestically, saving money and generating jobs and revenue. E.g. Steyr rifle. But now you see everything we buy has got hundreds of millions paid as 'tech transfer' and I ask you what are we actually building ourselves? Not even 4x4 after all this time. |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:23 PM
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QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Aug 31 2015, 05:52 PM) true true talking of that, how do JPAM difer in role from BOMBA Bomba always get left out..poor lads.. most of the time JPAM take the front page |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:25 PM
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Sniper camouflage is THE best!!
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Aug 31 2015, 06:27 PM
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I respect our arm forces fully.. anyway if 1 day there is change of leadership democratically, their loyalty will be towards the new elected also right.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 06:21 PM) When you realise how shit our military parade is then you know why... all the crap hardware bought along with the so-called 'technology transfers'*... Sukhois have no foreseeable replacement, infantry still so weaksauce, armed helicopters also didn't have until recently... Respect the military and security personnel taking part in the parade. They are doing their jobs to keep you safe.The most infuriating part is that we're so close. Scorpene is an ok sub, Gowind delivers a lot of bang, A400M and Sukhoi also first class... but all the songlap and the USD CGPA means the whole army is just a halfhearted mess... *Technology transfer is so that we can build the stuff domestically, saving money and generating jobs and revenue. E.g. Steyr rifle. But now you see everything we buy has got hundreds of millions paid as 'tech transfer' and I ask you what are we actually building ourselves? Not even 4x4 after all this time. If you got beef with the subpar hardware, then bring it up with the government. Not with our servicemen and women. It's important to keep sight of who we go after. |
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LTZ boss. Just ignore them hypocrites. I love the pictures and if you have more please upload them.
These keyboard warriors stay home and jerk off day in day out. When shit hits the fan semua kecut bola and wouldn't want to be conscripted. |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:35 PM
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Counter terrorist demo by ULK team from 11th RGK.....
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Aug 31 2015, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 06:21 PM) When you realise how shit our military parade is then you know why... all the crap hardware bought along with the so-called 'technology transfers'*... Sukhois have no foreseeable replacement, infantry still so weaksauce, armed helicopters also didn't have until recently... Crap military hardware? which one?The most infuriating part is that we're so close. Scorpene is an ok sub, Gowind delivers a lot of bang, A400M and Sukhoi also first class... but all the songlap and the USD CGPA means the whole army is just a halfhearted mess... *Technology transfer is so that we can build the stuff domestically, saving money and generating jobs and revenue. E.g. Steyr rifle. But now you see everything we buy has got hundreds of millions paid as 'tech transfer' and I ask you what are we actually building ourselves? Not even 4x4 after all this time. sukhoi no forseeable replacement? soldier a weaksauce? scorpene is a OK sub? WTF are u toking about? no local built product? not even a 4x4? ARE U KIDDING ME? which planet are u from? |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. Congratulations! You are a retardcountry down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:47 PM
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Aug 31 2015, 06:48 PM
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Our military is not to be laughed at. We may not have the infinite money like sg or thai but we sure kick ass when it comes to perseverance.
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Aug 31 2015, 06:52 PM
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What's that full faced masked for in the Briged Para?
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Aug 31 2015, 06:57 PM
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Cekap. Saw the black Rangers heading back to Semarak after the parade.
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Aug 31 2015, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Aug 31 2015, 06:52 PM) What's that full faced masked for in the Briged Para? HALO jumperhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-altitude...ary_parachuting |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:59 PM
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eh, how come the 4x4s are now Chevrolets? I thought we have been sourcing Isuzu D-Max?
Tak cukup power? |
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Aug 31 2015, 06:59 PM
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nice pic
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Aug 31 2015, 07:01 PM
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Got new procurement ah?? Becauses usually i like look look at tanks and rocket only, hope army got more money and can buy more stuff...
Maybe nex time can have merdeka near sea. Tldm can show off their kapal too... |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:01 PM
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i watch tv today for military parade only
thought got special performance from elite paskal or whatsoever ayam sadding then i switch off go eating we should acquire more military equipment imo some looks outdated |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. Hope this guy is the only who felt like this coz he is total waste that the country ever had. country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself I hope you are actually not Malaysian but Nigerian. |
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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Aug 31 2015, 06:59 PM) eh, how come the 4x4s are now Chevrolets? I thought we have been sourcing Isuzu D-Max? The Chevy is for UTK.... RGK is using ford & navaraTak cukup power? |
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QUOTE(lauyah @ Aug 31 2015, 06:03 PM) Who decide on the pink color hat anyway? seriously? pink? It is from TNI Kor Marinir who helped form PASKAL in the early days.Even beret colour also malaysia maling from indonesia |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM) Penat tunggu turn..... tahun ni until next 5 year tengok benda sama coz tak ada duit beli benda baru  |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 31 2015, 06:36 PM) Crap military hardware? which one? Sukhois need replacement and there's no money. Soldiers still like Vietnam War era no body armour, lack radios, ATGMs and SAMs. Helicopters all decades old and barely any guns. Our Boustead so pro, 4x4 also can't design whereas our neighbour's homemade APCs are sold to the West! Tech transfer my ass, songlap only got lah...sukhoi no forseeable replacement? soldier a weaksauce? scorpene is a OK sub? WTF are u toking about? no local built product? not even a 4x4? ARE U KIDDING ME? which planet are u from? @statikinetik - Fair enough. Yeah its the hardware that's the problem. Our people are tough and experienced. SG Army win based on hardware only. But then they are the ones who keep voting back the songlap kings so... |
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KLboy92 please stop embarrassing yourself in adult topic. Thanks.
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « what is that at their chest? most front armed force looks fierce |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:18 PM
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:48 PM) To all arm forces...policemen...u have my due respect... I work in bomba but not as bomba, more to admin.. Yeah, bomba got many assets to show but i just see heli.. HmmmmmmBut always I felt BOMBA left out one... I respect BOMBA a lot...Im working in hospital....lots of time they sacrified their own safety for others..any BOMBA lads here?? |
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QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Aug 31 2015, 06:52 PM) What's that full faced masked for in the Briged Para? HALO/ HAHO High Altitude Low Opening/ High Altitude High Opening They jumped from very high altitude with lack of oxygen to breath...... thats why they need oxygen supply. |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:16 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « so nice at gun also have is the gun custom made for them? |
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 31 2015, 07:18 PM) I work in bomba but not as bomba, more to admin.. Yeah, bomba got many assets to show but i just see heli.. Hmmmmmm Passed days....bomba sent many assets. I dont know why they didnt bring that today..... maybe they put them on standby. |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(fazil0610 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:16 PM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « what is that at their chest? most front armed force looks fierce |
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QUOTE(fazil0610 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:18 PM) is that UTK badge? Special delivery for UTK......so nice at gun also have is the gun custom made for them? |
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QUOTE(mnz2 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:16 PM) KLboy92 please stop embarrassing yourself in adult topic. Thanks. Sure. Keep looking at others' militaries and keep telling yourself our people power can beat their tanks, jet fighters, attack choppers, etc. |
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. damn embarassing to be living in the same country as a shit like ucountry down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:22 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:19 PM) Passed days....bomba sent many assets. I dont know why they didnt bring that today..... maybe they put them on standby. Yeah... Maybe but i love to see it there too.. The rescue dog too.. Jeles tengok polis bawak anjing |
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QUOTE(aziratul @ Aug 31 2015, 07:19 PM) I guess it is diving equipment CCBA - closed circuit breathing apparatus. They can breath without releasing bubble.... the air is circulating inside the system. It can last longer.... only problem they cant dive deeper cause oxygen will become poisonous. |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:22 PM) CCBA - closed circuit breathing apparatus. They can breath without releasing bubble.... the air is circulating inside the system. It can last longer.... only problem they cant dive deeper cause oxygen will become poisonous. the only complain i heard wasif u have bad breath... tahu lah |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:26 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:23 PM) CCBA - closed circuit breathing apparatus. They can breath without releasing bubble.... the air is circulating inside the system. It can last longer.... only problem they cant dive deeper cause oxygen will become poisonous. Oh nice.. That for sure making their movement cannot be detected under water |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:14 PM) Sukhois need replacement and there's no money. Soldiers still like Vietnam War era no body armour, lack radios, ATGMs and SAMs. Helicopters all decades old and barely any guns. Our Boustead so pro, 4x4 also can't design whereas our neighbour's homemade APCs are sold to the West! Tech transfer my ass, songlap only got lah... Since when we want to replace sukhoi? Boustead build 4x4? Really?@statikinetik - Fair enough. Yeah its the hardware that's the problem. Our people are tough and experienced. SG Army win based on hardware only. But then they are the ones who keep voting back the songlap kings so... |
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ahahaha butthurt delete komen
kena serang by sulu can go do same thing also LOL we outchea |
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 31 2015, 07:27 PM) ahahaha butthurt delete komen Kenapa dengan sulu?kena serang by sulu can go do same thing also LOL we outchea |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 06:21 PM) When you realise how shit our military parade is then you know why... all the crap hardware bought along with the so-called 'technology transfers'*... Sukhois have no foreseeable replacement, infantry still so weaksauce, armed helicopters also didn't have until recently... The most infuriating part is that we're so close. Scorpene is an ok sub, Gowind delivers a lot of bang, A400M and Sukhoi also first class... but all the songlap and the USD CGPA means the whole army is just a halfhearted mess... *Technology transfer is so that we can build the stuff domestically, saving money and generating jobs and revenue. E.g. Steyr rifle. But now you see everything we buy has got hundreds of millions paid as 'tech transfer' and I ask you what are we actually building ourselves? Not even 4x4 after all this time.  |
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 31 2015, 07:25 PM) itulah ..kalau bodoh jangan tunjuk pandai. Tq for correction... janji ada FJ need replacing la, sorry terlupa nama. And I don't understand why a simple vehicle also we cannot build inhouse, need to outsource along with "technology transfer"the one that need replacement is MIG 29 not sukhoi u dumbass  lack of atgm ??? please go sipri.org anyway. Harap2 no war that will need all this stuff. If anything it seems our polis have too many weapons, saman kereta pun bawak MP5 turun. |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(smallbug @ Aug 31 2015, 05:53 PM) Nicely done. I think I'd have to be actually standing there to appreciate more. Its purple actuallyPink berets = ? Blue Berets = ? the Paskal or the Navy Special Forces QUOTE(professor_snape @ Aug 31 2015, 05:57 PM) wah... sniper headshot. from what i read, sniper usually aim for tge vital organ in the body because easy to target compared to head. dem bersepai mcm eksiden moto klau headshot. during the first ambush of the of the police commandothey were pinned down and its up to the VAT69 commando to aide them among 3 sniper team iinm they manage to get 8 to 10 kills and all are head shots QUOTE(RoyMcAvoy @ Aug 31 2015, 06:52 PM) What's that full faced masked for in the Briged Para? its the high altitude jumperQUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:14 PM) Sukhois need replacement and there's no money. Soldiers still like Vietnam War era no body armour, lack radios, ATGMs and SAMs. Helicopters all decades old and barely any guns. Our Boustead so pro, 4x4 also can't design whereas our neighbour's homemade APCs are sold to the West! Tech transfer my ass, songlap only got lah... Sukhoi need replacement abah kau, MIG la@statikinetik - Fair enough. Yeah its the hardware that's the problem. Our people are tough and experienced. SG Army win based on hardware only. But then they are the ones who keep voting back the songlap kings so... Sukhoi ngan MIG pun tak reti beza berlagak pulak dia Body armour ada la bang, tak pernah tengok infantry kat lahad datu dengan dekat UN punya mission ka? buatan Malaysia lagi ATGM? habis tu METIS tu apa? ketupat? nak buat propa tapi data semua salah, bodoh macam K.K.S jugak dia nih lagi satu BOUSTED BUAT KAPAL...... HAHAHAHAHHAAH pergi mati please... |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 31 2015, 07:27 PM) ahahaha butthurt delete komen Guys... this boy & like others also..... they like to say ,"suluk pun tak boleh catch"..... kena serang by sulu can go do same thing also LOL we outchea For me this statement is wrong at all.... yes the suluk landed on sabah (lahad datu) because of special situation. But did we really give them chance after negotiation ended...... I dont think so. Most of them "VAPOURISED" by Ops Daulat movement. Pls correct ur statement..... |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:31 PM) Tq for correction... janji ada FJ need replacing la, sorry terlupa nama. And I don't understand why a simple vehicle also we cannot build inhouse, need to outsource along with "technology transfer" MP5 kena bwk turun la bang...sentiasa pegang. Kang org bwk lari MPV nayaanyway. Harap2 no war that will need all this stuff. If anything it seems our polis have too many weapons, saman kereta pun bawak MP5 turun. |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:42 PM
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Those who think ppl who come to merdeka parade automatic support najib really meed to do a brain check.
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Aug 31 2015, 07:43 PM
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With budget or not, they'll alwiz put up a show. Thats the best thing
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Aug 31 2015, 07:44 PM
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Aug 31 2015, 07:44 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 07:34 PM) Sukhoi need replacement abah kau, MIG la Tersasur cakap sukhoi. Sorry. Body armour, METIS tau lah ada tapi macam kurang bilangan? Helicopter pun macam kurang berbandingkan Konfrontasi dan hanya 2-3 yang mempunyai MG.Sukhoi ngan MIG pun tak reti beza berlagak pulak dia Body armour ada la bang, tak pernah tengok infantry kat lahad datu dengan dekat UN punya mission ka? buatan Malaysia lagi ATGM? habis tu METIS tu apa? ketupat? nak buat propa tapi data semua salah, bodoh macam K.K.S jugak dia nih lagi satu BOUSTED BUAT KAPAL...... HAHAHAHAHHAAH pergi mati please... Ni bukan propa k? Honest worried esp lepas Lahad Datu. Mana boleh baca report about Lahad Datu sniper and fighter bombing? 1 thing I pernah tengok UTK buat ronda di KL. Memang pro gila nampak. |
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QUOTE(professor_snape @ Aug 31 2015, 07:42 PM) how far was the sniper ha? 1km? dem impressive job tho. I can't recall.but they are quite far from the main engagement area but in a good place to provide cover fire |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM
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Abang LTZ, defence minister ni kali amacam?
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Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM
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hmm..about our malaysia tank
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Aug 31 2015, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:38 PM) MP5 kena bwk turun la bang...sentiasa pegang. Kang org bwk lari MPV naya Tq. Actually terasa lebih selamat cam ni. And at least bukan kerana I nampak macam komunis |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:44 PM) Tersasur cakap sukhoi. Sorry. Body armour, METIS tau lah ada tapi macam kurang bilangan? Helicopter pun macam kurang berbandingkan Konfrontasi dan hanya 2-3 yang mempunyai MG. quantiti cukup, benda mcam ni tak akan diumum pada semuaNi bukan propa k? Honest worried esp lepas Lahad Datu. Mana boleh baca report about Lahad Datu sniper and fighter bombing? 1 thing I pernah tengok UTK buat ronda di KL. Memang pro gila nampak. tetapi kalo rajin boleh sebenarnya cari jumlah aset ni berdasarkan waktu pengumuman pembelian tetapi biasanya unit akan ditambah dari semasa ke semasa Heli..?? nak buat macam mana kalau dah kerajaan tak letakan kepentingan untuk penambahan aset bilangan helikopter pengangkut memang perlu ditambah, bukan setakat ditembah malah kene TUDM dan Tentera darat patut dah ada dedicated troop transport heli sendiri. Nasib baik sekarang dah ada 2 jenis gunship kat kawasan esscom dan yang ke 3 akan masuk service tak lama lagi Nak baca report engagement? askar snediri kalau nak tumpang baca kene baca kat bilik kebal informasi pasal engagement and contact suma controlled untuk media released pun berapa kali tapis |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:53 PM
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Aug 31 2015, 07:54 PM
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Thanks for sharing those pics LTZ
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Aug 31 2015, 07:54 PM
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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:53 PM) UTK badasssssss Yg mane satu tu?? |
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QUOTE(Tuyin @ Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM) Abang LTZ, defence minister ni kali amacam? jangan la bagi aku menangis Ada fight utk military kita tak?  QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM) hmm..about our malaysia tank dont worrythe fuel tank install at rear tank i feel like kena aim one shoot terus hancur.. not very sure about this.. need expert on tht.. too bad bomba no show all their asset... even if the drum suffer from direct attack it wont jeopardize the tank that is just an external tank |
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Aug 31 2015, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:54 PM) Yg mane satu tu?? yg kete pickup hitam tu.. UTK?soli kalo salah |
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QUOTE(Tuyin @ Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM) Abang LTZ, defence minister ni kali amacam? PR dia dgn personnel ok..... takde protokol. Cuma aku rase dia kurang push sbb dia sendiri nampak kewangan negara yg teruk ni.....Ada fight utk military kita tak? |
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QUOTE(SKY233 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:55 PM) yg kete pickup hitam tu.. UTK? Yg ni ke? Yup....UTKsoli kalo salah |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:57 PM) Yg ni ke? Yup....UTK   gagah |
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so many red shirt, could be part of the million strong red army for 10 oct
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 07:52 PM) Nasib baik sekarang dah ada 2 jenis gunship kat kawasan esscom dan yang ke 3 akan masuk service tak lama lagi Gunship ada 1 pakai gatling 1 pakai MG yang ketiga? Baru terbaca ttg Alouette bermeriam 20mm yang dipakai time Konfrontasi, alangkah jika sekarang ada yang macam tu...Nak baca report engagement? askar snediri kalau nak tumpang baca kene baca kat bilik kebal informasi pasal engagement and contact suma controlled untuk media released pun berapa kali tapis Fahamlah report camtu classified... ingat ada source lain ke... Pasal Boustead tu I marah sebab kapal2 kita spt Gowind macam best sebenarnya, Scorpene pun Australia turut beli, tetapi entah kenape asyik delay kemudian keluar slow sangat. Dan asyik dengan technology transfer... |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 08:03 PM) Gunship ada 1 pakai gatling 1 pakai MG yang ketiga? Baru terbaca ttg Alouette bermeriam 20mm yang dipakai time Konfrontasi, alangkah jika sekarang ada yang macam tu... 1 group Nuri,Fahamlah report camtu classified... ingat ada source lain ke... Pasal Boustead tu I marah sebab kapal2 kita spt Gowind macam best sebenarnya, Scorpene pun Australia turut beli, tetapi entah kenape asyik delay kemudian keluar slow sangat. Dan asyik dengan technology transfer... 1 group A109 in the future is Blackhawk alouette akan digantikan tak lama lagi Gowind mmg best, tapi tak siap lagi jadi tunggu lah, akan ada 2, 3 lagi pengumuman pasal Gowidn tu Scorpene OZ tak beli, yang beli berdasarkan Malaysia punya spec ialah India OZ ada collins class yang jauh lebih bermasalah. Malah sampai terlalu problematic depa akan pencenkan awal dan nak ganti dengan SSK baru. India tak terima scorpene class depa sampai Malaysia punya sub squadron matang. |
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perhaps someday we can have also granstand built along the street so old people & children can sit comfortably and enjoy watching the parade
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Aug 31 2015, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM) hmm..about our malaysia tank that's only external fuel tank and only for long range travel, the fuel tank install at rear tank i feel like kena aim one shoot terus hancur.. not very sure about this.. need expert on tht.. too bad bomba no show all their asset... usually filled with sand like BMP door tanks (by everyone from Russians to Syrians) actual fuel tank is inside, dont worry. |
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Aug 31 2015, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:36 PM) Guys... this boy & like others also..... they like to say ,"suluk pun tak boleh catch"..... so you insufficient funds® or no ?For me this statement is wrong at all.... yes the suluk landed on sabah (lahad datu) because of special situation. But did we really give them chance after negotiation ended...... I dont think so. Most of them "VAPOURISED" by Ops Daulat movement. Pls correct ur statement..... LOL |
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Aug 31 2015, 08:23 PM
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drill a400m mana.
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Aug 31 2015, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 31 2015, 08:19 PM) so you insufficient funds® or no ? In whatever situation...I am not willing to interact & comms with u anymore... thanks for ur comments. VMT BT 312024H Aug//LOL This post has been edited by LTZ: Aug 31 2015, 08:28 PM |
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QUOTE(Nachiino Etamay @ Aug 31 2015, 11:29 AM) stupid BN trooper. to me, the rakyat is innocent. i blame the government QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. Tak kena tempat la your sentiments.country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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QUOTE(Dreadstar @ Aug 31 2015, 08:08 PM) why i see only 1 pilot using french helmet ... the rest still using old ruskie helmet? just got a word that this picture is from 2009at that time the integration is not yet complete QUOTE(ThirdSon @ Aug 31 2015, 08:16 PM) perhaps someday we can have also granstand built along the street so old people & children can sit comfortably and enjoy watching the parade hear hearand not just for vvips |
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QUOTE(WhyYouSoSerious @ Aug 31 2015, 08:23 PM) drill a400m mana. Bukan aku dah post ke sebelum ni...... ni gambar dia |
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lol baru second post sudah butthurt
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QUOTE(tescogot @ Aug 31 2015, 08:27 PM) lol baru second post sudah butthurt Kau maksudkan aku ke? |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 08:10 PM) 1 group Nuri, Oh. Ingat Australia dah settle beli Scorpene. India baru delivered I baca. Tq for correcting me.1 group A109 in the future is Blackhawk alouette akan digantikan tak lama lagi Gowind mmg best, tapi tak siap lagi jadi tunggu lah, akan ada 2, 3 lagi pengumuman pasal Gowidn tu Scorpene OZ tak beli, yang beli berdasarkan Malaysia punya spec ialah India OZ ada collins class yang jauh lebih bermasalah. Malah sampai terlalu problematic depa akan pencenkan awal dan nak ganti dengan SSK baru. India tak terima scorpene class depa sampai Malaysia punya sub squadron matang. Heli mana tu? Dah settle ke beli Viper atau Eurocopter? Actually replace Nuri I think lebi penting drpd attack heli, janji ada doorgun. Kan dah lama sangat airframe tu |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 08:27 PM) Bukan aku dah post ke sebelum ni...... ni gambar dia i watched at tv this morning cant believe at first.. tq  |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 08:29 PM) Oh. Ingat Australia dah settle beli Scorpene. India baru delivered I baca. Tq for correcting me. India baru lancar, akan proceed ngan sea trail lepas niHeli mana tu? Dah settle ke beli Viper atau Eurocopter? Actually replace Nuri I think lebi penting drpd attack heli, janji ada doorgun. Kan dah lama sangat airframe tu Blackhawk ygn Brunei armed forces bagi tu |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 08:29 PM) Oh. Ingat Australia dah settle beli Scorpene. India baru delivered I baca. Tq for correcting me. Klu ko tgk helicopter heroes semlm u will surprised to see the new glass cockpit & other upgrade for nuriHeli mana tu? Dah settle ke beli Viper atau Eurocopter? Actually replace Nuri I think lebi penting drpd attack heli, janji ada doorgun. Kan dah lama sangat airframe tu |
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Aug 31 2015, 08:41 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 08:39 PM) India baru lancar, akan proceed ngan sea trail lepas ni Ah. Dari post ingat ada heli jenis ke4. Senjata ada? Pernah nampak Blackhawk buat landing kat Airport lama KL... very very beautiful.Blackhawk ygn Brunei armed forces bagi tu |
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Aug 31 2015, 08:42 PM
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abang2, letak la spoiler. gambar besar tu..
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Aug 31 2015, 08:42 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 08:40 PM) Klu ko tgk helicopter heroes semlm u will surprised to see the new glass cockpit & other upgrade for nuri Terlepas. Wow glass cockpit, thats good. |
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salute to all service man... tq for your contribution... remember to make us proud..
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We have nicer asset presentation this year compared to Singapore. Problem is... FUCKING TERRIBLE MARKETING. Making us look like we belong in the 80's. Terrible commentator.
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QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:48 PM) hmm..about our malaysia tank if my 90s education of russian/soviet bloc tanks are still correct.The fuel from the external tanks will be used first and be jettisoned in combatthe fuel tank install at rear tank i feel like kena aim one shoot terus hancur.. not very sure about this.. need expert on tht.. too bad bomba no show all their asset... |
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QUOTE(tescogot @ Aug 31 2015, 08:27 PM) lol baru second post sudah butthurt Kau maksudkan aku ke? |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 08:25 PM) In whatever situation...I am not willing to interact & comms with u anymore... thanks for ur comments. VMT BT 312024H Aug// waw nice numbers bro i also can : Potm mid ms gg get rekt kappa// |
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QUOTE(Hexism @ Aug 31 2015, 08:56 PM) waw nice numbers bro i also can : Potm mid ms gg get rekt kappa// hex ni nakal sangat labagi can la abam ltz tuuu |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 08:29 PM) Oh. Ingat Australia dah settle beli Scorpene. India baru delivered I baca. Tq for correcting me. Good to see you stop the thrash talk from earlier in the thread.. Heli mana tu? Dah settle ke beli Viper atau Eurocopter? Actually replace Nuri I think lebi penting drpd attack heli, janji ada doorgun. Kan dah lama sangat airframe tu Sometimes being humble and learning makes a better experience on the Internet I suggest you delete your earlier comment "Kind of embarrassing... in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army and they are overtaking with US help." Obviously there are others who are more well versed than you and you are not knowledgable enough to make a call on quality of our army, let alone rank armies in ASEAN No point condemning the army as worse , esp if you are not knowledgable enough to make that call. The army protects us all.. respect them. This post has been edited by rolling2014: Aug 31 2015, 09:07 PM |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:02 PM) hex ni nakal sangat la ok la bagi can la abam ltz tuuu  |
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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Aug 31 2015, 09:06 PM) That digital camo pew pew pew BF4 lol |
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Bila ATM tak canggih marah..bila ATM nak beli barang canggih pun marah jugak...
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 07:57 PM) Yg ni ke? Yup....UTK Achievements :1) Caught Anwar Ibrahim in a raid, who was unarmed, with his family. 2) Pending.... |
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I feel so proud and terharu looking at those pictures. Thank you TS and keep it up!
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 08:10 PM) 1 group Nuri, we still got Nuri ah?1 group A109 in the future is Blackhawk alouette akan digantikan tak lama lagi Gowind mmg best, tapi tak siap lagi jadi tunggu lah, akan ada 2, 3 lagi pengumuman pasal Gowidn tu Scorpene OZ tak beli, yang beli berdasarkan Malaysia punya spec ialah India OZ ada collins class yang jauh lebih bermasalah. Malah sampai terlalu problematic depa akan pencenkan awal dan nak ganti dengan SSK baru. India tak terima scorpene class depa sampai Malaysia punya sub squadron matang. i remember in the 80s and 90s .... nuri = flying coffin |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:32 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:27 PM) Achievements : 1) Caught Anwar Ibrahim in a raid, who was unarmed, with his family. 2) Pending.... i wonder from which country mas selamat escaped from...  |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(rolling2014 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:05 PM) Good to see you stop the thrash talk from earlier in the thread.. Its ok. I leave it there better than I delete macam sorok saja. Biarkan error saya nampak.Sometimes being humble and learning makes a better experience on the Internet I suggest you delete your earlier comment "Kind of embarrassing... in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army and they are overtaking with US help." Obviously there are others who are more well versed than you and you are not knowledgable enough to make a call on quality of our army, let alone rank armies in ASEAN No point condemning the army as worse , esp if you are not knowledgable enough to make that call. The army protects us all.. respect them. Besides, I'm not that convinced yet. Still think Indon, Thai, Viet and SG have a better army, hardware and numbers wise at least. Spec ops kita best, ada beberapa biji hardware yang baik. But then ada room for improvement kan? I ikut military as hobby only, yang pro punya sila beri tunjuk ajar. But then I *am* a little bit more informed than most. TLDM vs, e.g. RSN, Twardy vs Leopard etc, mampu dibezakan (walau tersasur cakap Sukhoi dengan MIG tadi....). Jangan anggap ini sebagai disrespect kepada para pendekar negara. Padahal I wish peruntukan untuk tentera ditinggikan, bukan saja hardware tetapi gaji dan perks juga. Sanggup korban nyawa, harus diberi rezeki. |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 09:32 PM) i wonder from which country mas selamat escaped from... but utk is on short leash of our politicians..zero shits given to them |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:39 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:37 PM) army i can respect. this one did you even know what is going on the Kelantan Royal Household at that moment? and why such a raid is neccessary?but utk is on short leash of our politicians..zero shits given to them |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:20 PM) Bila ATM tak canggih marah..bila ATM nak beli barang canggih pun marah jugak... Mau beli barang canggih serta Mistral serta Rafale (but I sendiri prefer Typhoon jika ada duit, Gripen jika bajet skit) tapi tak percaya duit ada. Seluruh bajet peruntukan spend on Mistral kemudian tiada heli attack, seperti Thai Chakruebet (spell?) yang menjadi target jenaka dunia saja.Minggu ni France Min. Of Def. dtg nak offer mistral ngan rafale pun dah ada org bising.. |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:29 PM) we still got Nuri ah? Without nuri..... no ops can be launched deep inside the jungle.i remember in the 80s and 90s .... nuri = flying coffin |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 09:39 PM) this one did you even know what is going on the Kelantan Royal Household at that moment? and why such a raid is neccessary? let me open friends of bn website to find out./stupid |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:37 PM) utk is on short leash of our politicians..zero shits given GGK dll. yang tolong raid Mas Selamat, ISIS dan snipe Sulu etc., kerana itu saja I dah tabik. Yang lain tu biarlah... askar harus dengar arahan. |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:44 PM
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doesn't it look ironic that the parade have only one race in it. The merdeka your forefathers fought has lost its meaning
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Aug 31 2015, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:41 PM) let me open friends of bn website to find out. go find out and research about this particular case. its interesting./stupid tags: royal household, heir, judiciary |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:29 PM) we still got Nuri ah? back then the were problem with some partsi remember in the 80s and 90s .... nuri = flying coffin QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:40 PM) Mau beli barang canggih serta Mistral serta Rafale (but I sendiri prefer Typhoon jika ada duit, Gripen jika bajet skit) tapi tak percaya duit ada. Seluruh bajet peruntukan spend on Mistral kemudian tiada heli attack, seperti Thai Chakruebet (spell?) yang menjadi target jenaka dunia saja. Typhoon?simpan la impian tu buat apa tambah masalah macam typhoon tu mendukung biawak hidup |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 09:40 PM) Without nuri..... no ops can be launched deep inside the jungle. QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:46 PM) back then the were problem with some parts ic, noted. |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 09:44 PM) go find out and research about this particular case. its interesting. so u think its justified for just well equipped / trained team to go after royalties and politicians?tags: royal household, heir, judiciary hence, i give no shits about them. |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:40 PM) Mau beli barang canggih serta Mistral serta Rafale (but I sendiri prefer Typhoon jika ada duit, Gripen jika bajet skit) tapi tak percaya duit ada. Seluruh bajet peruntukan spend on Mistral kemudian tiada heli attack, seperti Thai Chakruebet (spell?) yang menjadi target jenaka dunia saja. Kalau beli mistral kena beli heli attack ker? U tau ke mistral tu apa dan apa keperluan navy sekarang ni? |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:37 PM) army i can respect. this is more a rescue missionbut utk is on short leash of our politicians..zero shits given to them |
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Aug 31 2015, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:20 PM) Bila ATM tak canggih marah..bila ATM nak beli barang canggih pun marah jugak... mistral tu dah ada bunyi2 kata bakal jd skandal cam scorpene gak..Minggu ni France Min. Of Def. dtg nak offer mistral ngan rafale pun dah ada org bising.. bangang tul..dah tak dpt kontrak tu dok diam2 la..sebok nak khianat bagi deal tak jadi sama la mcm kes EC725 dulu..dah TUDM xnak Mi171 tu dok diam2 la..ni gi jolok plak anwar suro bg EC725 jd kontroversi..bengong |
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:54 PM) mistral tu dah ada bunyi2 kata bakal jd skandal cam scorpene gak.. Biasa la drg...letak je negative perception dulu...pastu dtg le cerita2 pelik macam submarine..kes heli...sampi sekarang kapal selam org duk ungkit tak boleh menyelam..bangang tul..dah tak dpt kontrak tu dok diam2 la..sebok nak khianat bagi deal tak jadi sama la mcm kes EC725 dulu..dah TUDM xnak Mi171 tu dok diam2 la..ni gi jolok plak anwar suro bg EC725 jd kontroversi..bengong This post has been edited by periuk_api1209: Aug 31 2015, 09:59 PM |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:01 PM
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QUOTE(this issit! @ Aug 31 2015, 09:51 PM) so u think its justified for just well equipped / trained team to go after royalties and politicians? hence, i give no shits about them. QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM) this is more a rescue mission tu atreyuangel already told half of the story.the other half you hafta research it to understand why this happened. you'd think they would suddenly raid some VVIP without any good reason? |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(keown83 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:54 PM) mistral tu dah ada bunyi2 kata bakal jd skandal cam scorpene gak.. MI17 tu sebenarnya tak de kaitan ngan askar punbangang tul..dah tak dpt kontrak tu dok diam2 la..sebok nak khianat bagi deal tak jadi sama la mcm kes EC725 dulu..dah TUDM xnak Mi171 tu dok diam2 la..ni gi jolok plak anwar suro bg EC725 jd kontroversi..bengong dan kes dia sebenarnya takde kes sangat pun. mistral? kkhabar angin je kot |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 07:55 PM) jangan la bagi aku menangis so mostly is empty right for tht external tank unless if needed? dont worry even if the drum suffer from direct attack it wont jeopardize the tank that is just an external tank |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 07:14 PM) Sukhois need replacement and there's no money. Soldiers still like Vietnam War era no body armour, lack radios, ATGMs and SAMs. Helicopters all decades old and barely any guns. Our Boustead so pro, 4x4 also can't design whereas our neighbour's homemade APCs are sold to the West! Tech transfer my ass, songlap only got lah... Aiyooo main hentam ka ???? Sukhoi for replacement ??? Boustead for 4x4 .......r u serious@statikinetik - Fair enough. Yeah its the hardware that's the problem. Our people are tough and experienced. SG Army win based on hardware only. But then they are the ones who keep voting back the songlap kings so... |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(karastree @ Aug 31 2015, 10:24 PM) Aiyooo main hentam ka ???? Sukhoi for replacement ??? Boustead for 4x4 .......r u serious Chill chill. Brother KLboy92 silap skit awal2 tu tp now dh faham situasi sebenar lepas abam2 power kita dh explain everything |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM) this is more a rescue mission What happen? |
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Aug 31 2015, 10:45 PM
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QUOTE(karastree @ Aug 31 2015, 10:24 PM) Aiyooo main hentam ka ???? Sukhoi for replacement ??? Boustead for 4x4 .......r u serious  4 threads is still 4x4 |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(KuzumiTaiga @ Aug 31 2015, 08:48 PM) We have nicer asset presentation this year compared to Singapore. Problem is... FUCKING TERRIBLE MARKETING. Making us look like we belong in the 80's. Terrible commentator. nice asset presentation? u sure? |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:04 PM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM) this is more a rescue mission Y need to be so aggressive?Point gun somore Wat if bodyguard shoot back by mistake thinking it was terrorists? If I was sultan or his son I will be raving mad This post has been edited by AxeFire: Aug 31 2015, 11:05 PM |
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Looks crap....same old thing year in, year out...no change macam leftover dish...which show the crapy assets
Meanwhile...this is beter done...at least the narrator explain the asset, its function... |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(jacy5 @ Aug 31 2015, 11:05 PM) Looks crap....same old thing year in, year out...no change macam leftover dish...which show the crapy assets Another Singapore butt licker. So what if they have better parades and toys. Most their national servicemen are mummy boys. Our military guys are hard core. you haven't seen their training yet. Put Singapore babies to shame.Meanwhile...this is beter done...at least the narrator explain the asset, its function... |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:10 PM
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jacy5 we should up the military budget at least matching SG level. Support?
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Aug 31 2015, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:04 PM) Y nah, they were all informed. how can a huge entourage let bunch of masked men pass through without any resistance? ayyyyY need to be so aggressive? Point gun somore Wat if bodyguard shoot back by mistake thinking it was terrorists? If I was sultan or his son I will be raving mad tengok video sebelum tu. mamat dalam kereta tu dah tau UTK nak masuk. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:13 PM) nah, they were all informed. how can a huge entourage let bunch of masked men pass through without any resistance? ayyyy So the "aggressive" behavior is wayang tengok video sebelum tu. mamat dalam kereta tu dah tau UTK nak masuk. Ok I baru tahu few days ago someone shot a palace guard... Now makes sense Sorry |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(jacy5 @ Aug 31 2015, 11:05 PM) Looks crap....same old thing year in, year out...no change macam leftover dish...which show the crapy assets USA powerful no need parade coz they know they are goodMeanwhile...this is beter done...at least the narrator explain the asset, its function... And what's so good if u have beautiful parade when all their soilder are conscripts? Bet many will chicken at conflict. U can't force a person to fight effectively if he is not willing. Compare to Malaysia where all the soilders made the choice to join so they are more dedicated to the job. SG soilder need maid for logistics support! Army main role is not to parade. This post has been edited by AxeFire: Aug 31 2015, 11:23 PM |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:36 PM) Its ok. I leave it there better than I delete macam sorok saja. Biarkan error saya nampak. Well "in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army" suggests you feel not only our hardware but our personnel (eg skills, dedication) is one of the worst. Is it possible an army folk could just read that post and feel you "disrespect kepada para pendekar negara"?Besides, I'm not that convinced yet. Still think Indon, Thai, Viet and SG have a better army, hardware and numbers wise at least. Spec ops kita best, ada beberapa biji hardware yang baik. But then ada room for improvement kan? I ikut military as hobby only, yang pro punya sila beri tunjuk ajar. But then I *am* a little bit more informed than most. TLDM vs, e.g. RSN, Twardy vs Leopard etc, mampu dibezakan (walau tersasur cakap Sukhoi dengan MIG tadi....). Jangan anggap ini sebagai disrespect kepada para pendekar negara. Padahal I wish peruntukan untuk tentera ditinggikan, bukan saja hardware tetapi gaji dan perks juga. Sanggup korban nyawa, harus diberi rezeki. You might feel you are a lil bit more informed than most but atreyuangel said "data semua salah, bodoh macam K.K.S jugak dia nih" so I dunno how accurate your claim is.. I suggest at least edit |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:25 PM
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Just see if sg soilder can last as long as my soilder in jungle
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Aug 31 2015, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:16 PM) So the "aggressive" behavior is wayang if you are talking about the palace guard shot by the bodyguard, do note that the bodyguard was privately hired by another jealous heir to the throne, and preventing the official bodyguards (police) from doing their jobs.Ok I baru tahu few days ago someone shot a palace guard... Now makes sense Sorry its a household affair. the previous sultan was incapacitated without appointing a heir. one of the heir hired private bodyguards to "protect" the incapacitated sultan, bringing him to outside of this country so that the official bodyguards have no power in such matter. the current sultan of kelantan requested police to rescue his father, the UTK responded. this ensues. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:31 PM
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Really 3rd world if you even bother to watch Singapore NDP 2015.
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Aug 31 2015, 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:25 PM) Just see if sg soilder can last as long as my soilder in jungle Just did a simple google. 2015 military budget: MY USD5.4 billion vs SG $9.5 billion. All down to $$$$. More budget = more assets ( = more songlap too). From I read from SG military news/forum, mostly they are actually counting on MY if there is any other external threat (eg Indonesia, Australia, PRC). MY vs SG in war is next to impossible. No need to jelly each other. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:28 PM) if you are talking about the palace guard shot by the bodyguard, do note that the bodyguard was privately hired by another jealous heir to the throne, and preventing the official bodyguards (police) from doing their jobs. So that is the real story behind all those dramas. Family matters rupanya.its a household affair. the previous sultan was incapacitated without appointing a heir. one of the heir hired private bodyguards to "protect" the incapacitated sultan, bringing him to outside of this country so that the official bodyguards have no power in such matter. the current sultan of kelantan requested police to rescue his father, the UTK responded. this ensues. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(die_257 @ Aug 31 2015, 11:34 PM) So that is the real story behind all those dramas. Family matters rupanya. there is this plan to end the previous sultan life overseas, and by doing it, one of the heir will benefit because he will be next in line to the throne.an anonymous tip, and the current sultan requested that his father be rescued. truly, them UTK are the loyal ones. after the video the sultan was brought to the nearby local hospital and guarded by them personally. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:39 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:28 PM) if you are talking about the palace guard shot by the bodyguard, do note that the bodyguard was privately hired by another jealous heir to the throne, and preventing the official bodyguards (police) from doing their jobs. And what happens at the end. Who became sultan? Thanks for the story. I kinda forgot about it and followed up.its a household affair. the previous sultan was incapacitated without appointing a heir. one of the heir hired private bodyguards to "protect" the incapacitated sultan, bringing him to outside of this country so that the official bodyguards have no power in such matter. the current sultan of kelantan requested police to rescue his father, the UTK responded. this ensues. |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE(-TcT- @ Aug 31 2015, 11:31 PM) Really 3rd world if you even bother to watch Singapore NDP 2015. Looked like a dictatorship parade - ussr/north KoreaJust find in Youtube. So pompous n show off |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 31 2015, 11:39 PM) And what happens at the end. Who became sultan? Thanks for the story. I kinda forgot about it and followed up. Muhammad Vhe was involved personally during the flood relief operations at kelantan   |
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QUOTE(mnz2 @ Aug 31 2015, 11:33 PM) Just did a simple google. 2015 military budget: MY USD5.4 billion vs SG $9.5 billion. All down to $$$$. More budget = more assets ( = more songlap too). Yes this is true I think.From I read from SG military news/forum, mostly they are actually counting on MY if there is any other external threat (eg Indonesia, Australia, PRC). MY vs SG in war is next to impossible. No need to jelly each other. My n sg need each other. We are not north n south Korea! Come on!!!!! |
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:42 PM) Looked like a dictatorship parade - ussr/north Korea Need showing to citizen where SG huge military budget has gone to So pompous n show off |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM) Muhammad V Very nice end to a very dramatic story. thank you.he was involved personally during the flood relief operations at kelantan |
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So why the flag upside down?
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Aug 31 2015, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM) Muhammad V Just checked wiki. he was involved personally during the flood relief operations at kelantan He is next in line for the next agaong!! |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:46 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM) Very nice end to a very dramatic story. thank you. he's a humble and god-fearing mani've yet to see him with UTK bodyguards, but i'm sure they are nearby. jealous heirs are still around ye see |
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Aug 31 2015, 11:50 PM
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Btw next agong goes up next year isn't it?
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Aug 31 2015, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Aug 31 2015, 11:50 PM) Btw next agong goes up next year isn't it? he will get 1 full squadron of rafale and 2 mistral LHD...notThink he will change anything for us? IDK about whether he can change things or not, since powers given to Agong are quite limited. But those powers are the most vital ones. |
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Aug 31 2015, 11:56 PM) he will get 1 full squadron of rafale and 2 mistral LHD...not who controls gomen spending? Better ask Bijan IDK about whether he can change things or not, since powers given to Agong are quite limited. But those powers are the most vital ones. |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(mnz2 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:02 AM) who controls gomen spending? Better ask Bijan ampun tuanku. datuk menteri pekak tuanku. |
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Sep 1 2015, 12:03 AM) ampun tuanku. datuk menteri pekak tuanku. Then no chance for new toys |
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QUOTE(wanvadder @ Sep 1 2015, 12:03 AM) ampun tuanku. datuk menteri pekak tuanku. LEL |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Aug 31 2015, 09:46 PM) buat apa tambah masalah macam typhoon tu Boleh mimpi walaupun takkan jadi mendukung biawak hidup Typhoon with AESA and Meteor BVRAAM QUOTE(periuk_api1209 @ Aug 31 2015, 09:52 PM) Kalau beli mistral kena beli heli attack ker? U tau ke mistral tu apa dan apa keperluan navy sekarang ni? Tau Mistral, useful ship. Negara2 skrang semua tiba2 mau main dengan mini amphibious ship dan LCS... itu hal mereka lah.IDK what our navy mau Mistral for. Seabase? What for? Tanah kan banyak. Feri aset ke Esscom? Lebih baik pakai Rollon rolloff, bukannya nak serang D-day pun. Buat naval patrol? Kena beli heli patrol, heli ASW, heli attack dan Gowind, unless Mistral tu happy2 je biarkan dia pergi tanpa escort. Lagipun lebih baik beli MPA spt P-8 kalau macam tu. Kalau betul mau base heli atas kapal buat patrol, kan Bunga Mas ada? Untuk mengawal situasi di Esscom heli itu penting. Konfrontasi proved that. I would rather buy fighter jet for TUDM, IFV untuk askar, dan kapal patrol untuk tangkap Sulu/Mindanao terrs, or MPA to watch those stupid Cina ships. QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:44 PM) Yes this is true I think. MY and SG should cooperate in thousands of issues but the fact is that we don't. Same story for military. IMHO Indon is more likely to buat hal but SG won't see it that way. So MY is still enemy number 1, all their war exercise is based on fighting us and overrunning Johor. FPDA balik rumah la.My n sg need each other. We are not north n south Korea! Come on!!!!! |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:28 AM
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QUOTE(UmmOkay @ Sep 1 2015, 12:20 AM) Mang, whats that thing? Chewbacca holding a gun ka? Sniper in their ghillies le |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:32 AM
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QUOTE(ezaz @ Aug 31 2015, 08:11 PM) Fffuu...last year only 3 sukhoi..today they bring the whole squadron manada, tak cukup lagi 7QUOTE(WhyYouSoSerious @ Aug 31 2015, 08:23 PM) drill a400m mana.  |
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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Sep 1 2015, 12:32 AM) manada, tak cukup lagi 7 woit, kalo suma turun sapa yang tinggal standby kat air base nun! |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:39 AM
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God bless our men in uniform.
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Sep 1 2015, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(neoFluidic @ Aug 31 2015, 11:45 PM) So why the flag upside down? http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2015...ed-flag-parade/ |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:42 AM
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 1 2015, 12:36 AM) woit, kalo suma turun sapa yang tinggal standby kat air base nun! Cik horny kan boleh tolong cover kejap |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:45 AM
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where is the jet video?
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Sep 1 2015, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:23 AM) FPDA balik rumah la. Ko merepek lagi ya? Kang senior kasi tampar kang |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:48 AM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. tengah period ke bro?country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:50 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Some ppl do go there is just to look at military vehicles and gear. I know there was this parent who dresses up their kids for a few years already in military gear there every year. I on the other hand love floats. Which ceased to exists since many years ago. You know i don't mind having military as part of the parade. But damn son... we are already Merdeka. We should be happy. We should have floats from various supporters in the country as a voice that they exist because of Merdeka. Now we only show army, police, emergency. No really. There are no more than 2-3 public floats the whole Merdeka parade. I was very disappointed when they take the Merdeka parade to Putrjaya. There was no floats there. When they take it back to Dataran, there was still no float. Why? The excuse was no budget. Whose budget is it? But behind, so many people wanted to take part. It never happened. Its only military as main feature. Do you know what country only have military as their national day parade? I feel that. Its like we are not free anymore. We have nothing. I can't even have 1 day in the year i would want to wake up at 5am take a bus to go to Dataran just to watch parade. This was the feeling since many years ago. Yesterday no feel at all. Even if i could hear the fireworks at Dataran on the eve. I woke up 9am today. I thought i was free, but its communism day. |
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Sep 1 2015, 12:56 AM
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QUOTE(mnz2 @ Sep 1 2015, 12:47 AM) Ko merepek lagi ya? Kang senior kasi tampar kang Lebih rela dengar, senior kasi tunjuk ajar.Colleague saya yng kata la, SG lebih focus kepada MY. |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 1 2015, 12:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Some ppl do go there is just to look at military vehicles and gear. I know there was this parent who dresses up their kids for a few years already in military gear there every year. I on the other hand love floats. Which ceased to exists since many years ago. You know i don't mind having military as part of the parade. But damn son... we are already Merdeka. We should be happy. We should have floats from various supporters in the country as a voice that they exist because of Merdeka. Now we only show army, police, emergency. No really. There are no more than 2-3 public floats the whole Merdeka parade. I was very disappointed when they take the Merdeka parade to Putrjaya. There was no floats there. When they take it back to Dataran, there was still no float. Why? The excuse was no budget. Whose budget is it? But behind, so many people wanted to take part. It never happened. Its only military as main feature. Do you know what country only have military as their national day parade? I feel that. Its like we are not free anymore. We have nothing. I can't even have 1 day in the year i would want to wake up at 5am take a bus to go to Dataran just to watch parade. This was the feeling since many years ago. Yesterday no feel at all. Even if i could hear the fireworks at Dataran on the eve. I woke up 9am today. I thought i was free, but its communism day. Show all tanks n shit |
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Sep 1 2015, 01:01 AM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Sep 1 2015, 12:57 AM) Lol look at sg same shit as here I know Sg also not all rosy for the locals. I have a realtive that is citizen there, and a few customers from SG that constantly complain about the treatment given to the locals. No law for this? Make it. No law for that? Make it. Owning a house also hard. Thats why they have houses here and build business here. I thought Sinkies only complain because they cannot chew bubble gum. But its more than that. Show all tanks n shit |
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Sep 1 2015, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 06:21 PM) When you realise how shit our military parade is then you know why... all the crap hardware bought along with the so-called 'technology transfers'*... Sukhois have no foreseeable replacement, infantry still so weaksauce, armed helicopters also didn't have until recently... no matter how inferior a weapon platform is it is still a weapon.The most infuriating part is that we're so close. Scorpene is an ok sub, Gowind delivers a lot of bang, A400M and Sukhoi also first class... but all the songlap and the USD CGPA means the whole army is just a halfhearted mess... *Technology transfer is so that we can build the stuff domestically, saving money and generating jobs and revenue. E.g. Steyr rifle. But now you see everything we buy has got hundreds of millions paid as 'tech transfer' and I ask you what are we actually building ourselves? Not even 4x4 after all this time. an outdated mouser can still kill you if it is given to the right hand. more tech to weapon means higher chances of failure. dont gobble up all you see at history channel about us military technology. if you know a thing or 2 about the us, they will always say their worst ideas are the best. go and read regarding operation overlord on how they fail to provide sufficient support to landing troops and why only on omaha beach has the highest casualty. f22 raptor plane is now being grounded for technical issues. f35 planes are still in development and still is not in service. but these are the ones they say they sacrifice the most and are the best planes in the world. if u see it on tv then u must go and read the real history from all sides. and about the we dont build anythign ourselves... go to pekan and have a look. boustead naval dockyard is also an excellent place to visit. im sure ltz will agree with me on this. |
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Sep 1 2015, 02:54 AM
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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Sep 1 2015, 12:32 AM) manada, tak cukup lagi 7 i am having a real hard on for the a400m propeller blades design... |
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Sep 1 2015, 02:57 AM
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you may hate the government
you may hate the politics party you may hate the politicians you may hate your ex but You Should Never Hate Your Country That Is Home. Selamat Hari Kemerdekaan Malaysia!! |
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Sep 1 2015, 07:48 AM
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QUOTE(akagidemon @ Sep 1 2015, 02:52 AM) no matter how inferior a weapon platform is it is still a weapon. True. And I'll say this for us - our army is more experienced than almost any other in SEA and personnel wise is definitely better than all those NSmen.But facts is facts and as I said - I think we're lacking in hardware compared to our peers, even the very small one down south. We can't keep saying "tapi orang kita lebih better". No army depends on the quality of personnel to win. And saying higher tech weapon will only fail etc is no point. How far back down low tech you want to go? Sampai sumpit and keris level? About the others... dono why tiba2 WW2 mentioned. F22 is now doing great work flying in Syria and I actually believe in the F35. Its too expensive, too ambitious, too delayed, but it will also be the best stealth fighter bomber in the world when its out. |
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Sep 1 2015, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:25 PM) Just see if sg soilder can last as long as my soilder in jungle I dont mean to be a jilat but why would u fight in a jungle while u can do it in urban area.Isnt urban and developed area that everyone wanted and fighting for? Unless the perpetrator cowardly hiding in the jungle |
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Sep 1 2015, 08:38 AM
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Military parades are the only reason I watch parades. Proud of our MBTs Poland stronk!! But i think due for upgrades
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Sep 1 2015, 08:41 AM
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amazing! thank you for your service and keeping malaysia safe!
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Sep 1 2015, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. you butthurt apesal bodo?country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 1 2015, 07:48 AM) True. And I'll say this for us - our army is more experienced than almost any other in SEA and personnel wise is definitely better than all those NSmen. apesal ko nak jilat singki bodo?But facts is facts and as I said - I think we're lacking in hardware compared to our peers, even the very small one down south. We can't keep saying "tapi orang kita lebih better". No army depends on the quality of personnel to win. And saying higher tech weapon will only fail etc is no point. How far back down low tech you want to go? Sampai sumpit and keris level? About the others... dono why tiba2 WW2 mentioned. F22 is now doing great work flying in Syria and I actually believe in the F35. Its too expensive, too ambitious, too delayed, but it will also be the best stealth fighter bomber in the world when its out. |
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Sep 1 2015, 09:14 AM
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Sep 1 2015, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(sakthis7 @ Sep 1 2015, 08:56 AM) apesal ko nak jilat singki bodo? Facts is facts. Msia baru mimpi fantasi mau beli Mistral, SG Endurance class dah lama ada. Heli baru pasang MG, sinki dah ada Apache. Banyak lagi cuma sakit hati mau post.Actually sejak kecik i suka tengok parade ATM Merdeka. Cuma skrang everyth looks semakin outdated. We have to start getting serious. |
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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Sep 1 2015, 12:50 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Some ppl do go there is just to look at military vehicles and gear. I know there was this parent who dresses up their kids for a few years already in military gear there every year. I on the other hand love floats. Which ceased to exists since many years ago. You know i don't mind having military as part of the parade. But damn son... we are already Merdeka. We should be happy. We should have floats from various supporters in the country as a voice that they exist because of Merdeka. Now we only show army, police, emergency. No really. There are no more than 2-3 public floats the whole Merdeka parade. I was very disappointed when they take the Merdeka parade to Putrjaya. There was no floats there. When they take it back to Dataran, there was still no float. Why? The excuse was no budget. Whose budget is it? But behind, so many people wanted to take part. It never happened. Its only military as main feature. Do you know what country only have military as their national day parade? I feel that. Its like we are not free anymore. We have nothing. I can't even have 1 day in the year i would want to wake up at 5am take a bus to go to Dataran just to watch parade. This was the feeling since many years ago. Yesterday no feel at all. Even if i could hear the fireworks at Dataran on the eve. I woke up 9am today. I thought i was free, but its communism day. i always hate those things..so boring...watching gov departments, GLCs and universities on their kereta berhias..some didn't even make much effort to their kereta berhias...i remember only agriculture department, Petronas, MOSTI always make the best kereta berhias..but still boring..i hate them coz their segment always the longest, while the military/police segment the shortest... if it were me in charge, i would scratch off the kids performance/culture dance as well and just have all-out military parade, but that would be too 'un-Independence Day'..and better call it Victory Day..like Russia and China did.. |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM) QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:40 PM) |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 05:30 PM) QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Aug 31 2015, 05:38 PM) Kind of embarrassing... in ASEAN only Philippines has a worse army and they are overtaking with US help. QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 05:39 PM) iinm your are in the army or some forces. so its understandable u have patriotic semangat in u. thanks LTZ and others for posts, i missed the actual thingbut its just different now @ "others" : pegi mampus |
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QUOTE(akagidemon @ Sep 1 2015, 02:54 AM) i am having a real hard on for the a400m propeller blades design... what about these? » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 1 2015, 05:03 PM) mbt vs apache who win ? ATGM & MANPADSIn which we are having many of them in our inventories. This post has been edited by LTZ: Sep 1 2015, 05:27 PM |
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QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Sep 1 2015, 12:32 AM) manada, tak cukup lagi 7 if you look closely can see tom cruisebtw where is PT91M Pendekar? |
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QUOTE(kikokiko @ Aug 31 2015, 06:35 PM) more worried about malaysia future under najib thn those stupid parade. why the ad hominem attack?country down the drain whatever celebration is meaningless. so u keep your patriotic meantality to yourself |
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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 1 2015, 05:30 PM) I guess we are lucky our neighbours don't have javelin yet But they are suppose to be very unlucky...... our doctrine is not pre-emptive strike. Our doctrine only self defence. We will not cross the border.... (I cannot discuss on this because war between both unlikely to happen). But since u ask.....our neighbour doctrine is pre-emptive strike to avoid damage to their land. They must clear the path 1st with both tanks & apache. We know our weakness (not enough budget) so we spend a lot to purchase mane ATGM & MANPADS. this is the way we neutralise them. Believe me..... our shoot and scoot is really work with our local knowledge. |
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What tyres are the 4x4 using?
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Sep 1 2015, 07:18 PM
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Look weak like hell......indo and Thailand can eat msia anytime...
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QUOTE(commanderz @ Sep 1 2015, 07:18 PM) Look weak like hell......indo and Thailand can eat msia anytime... Yup....I agree with u. But at least these boys & girls willing to defend their country's soverignity eventhough they know their level. For "WEAK" country like us as u mentioned.....our objective is not really to win the war.....but to use all available means that we have to delay enemy approach. By delaying them..... we can gain lot of thing eg can give time to rakyat like u to buy flight ticket in order to migrate abroad. No problem..... we may win, we may not.... but rakyat life is priority...... tq |
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 1 2015, 09:18 AM) Facts is facts. Msia baru mimpi fantasi mau beli Mistral, SG Endurance class dah lama ada. Heli baru pasang MG, sinki dah ada Apache. Banyak lagi cuma sakit hati mau post. outdated ke atau kamu tak appreciate.Actually sejak kecik i suka tengok parade ATM Merdeka. Cuma skrang everyth looks semakin outdated. We have to start getting serious. fact Malaysia tak pernah ada cita2 nak beli Mistral fact SG military development focus started even in the 70s fact Malaysia are at war until the 1989 where the development of Malaysian army are focuses in COIN and Jungle Warfare fact Only in the 1990s where Malaysia are totally focuses on modernization of the ATM and where SG have more then 20s of head starts musahabah diri sikit bro, tak semua ko tengok tu nampak buruk tu tak elok, dan tak semua yang ko nampak cantik tu baik. aku baru smapai rumah, ni aku nak hentam macai yang duk percaya apa si rafizi cakap kat press conference pagi tadi so MARI PUKUL MACAI...... |
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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Sep 1 2015, 07:53 PM) outdated ke atau kamu tak appreciate. Bukan I yang kata mau beli Mistral tu...fact Malaysia tak pernah ada cita2 nak beli Mistral fact SG military development focus started even in the 70s fact Malaysia are at war until the 1989 where the development of Malaysian army are focuses in COIN and Jungle Warfare fact Only in the 1990s where Malaysia are totally focuses on modernization of the ATM and where SG have more then 20s of head starts musahabah diri sikit bro, tak semua ko tengok tu nampak buruk tu tak elok, dan tak semua yang ko nampak cantik tu baik. aku baru smapai rumah, ni aku nak hentam macai yang duk percaya apa si rafizi cakap kat press conference pagi tadi so MARI PUKUL MACAI...... Agree bahawa Msia patut focus on anti-COIN strategy. Actually looking forward to AV-8 except I worry its not RPG proof. GGK equipment is always first class, no complains there. |
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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 1 2015, 09:04 PM) so u guys propose la what assets do we need ? because we certainly dont need heli carriers. propose pun sapa nak dengar?who said we do not need a LHD (not heli carriers la) especially the capability it bring towards marine warfare and logistic and transport might the mistral is actually a very good addition for the navy but not when it was tailored for the russian and not for our type of warfare. |
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Sep 1 2015, 09:26 PM
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Im just surprised Msia has the XM-8, i thought those never went out into mass production
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QUOTE(towar @ Sep 1 2015, 09:04 PM) so u guys propose la what assets do we need ? because we certainly dont need heli carriers. U know what...... I tell u this.... in Maskas Tentera Laut (MTL) we have a department called Bahagian Perancangan Strategik ... this dept is to propose everything that navy needs to fulfill the ops. I was too made some paperworks for some proposals. So with tons of paperwork....when arrived at civil part esp finance.....all pancung. So dont tell me I never propose.This post has been edited by LTZ: Sep 1 2015, 09:55 PM |
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QUOTE(LTZ @ Aug 31 2015, 06:13 PM) Yup..... as far as I know..... in modern history (minus communist era)... somalia, aden, lahad datu & bukit jenalek. that .50 cal sniper ... got many confirmed kills ? |
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QUOTE(phunkydude @ Sep 1 2015, 09:41 PM) that .50 cal sniper ... got many confirmed kills ? I think....because ops daulat especially.... they used it as counter sniper to counter suluk sniper. This .50 had range advantage over suluk rifle.In somalia also we used this..... |
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Aug 31 2015, 11:19 PM) USA powerful no need parade coz they know they are good USA Strong no need showAnd what's so good if u have beautiful parade when all their soilder are conscripts? Bet many will chicken at conflict. U can't force a person to fight effectively if he is not willing. Compare to Malaysia where all the soilders made the choice to join so they are more dedicated to the job. SG soilder need maid for logistics support! Army main role is not to parade. Malaysia show = strong SG Show = weak, only the lesser force needs to show off This post has been edited by XeonHacker: Sep 2 2015, 12:52 AM |
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