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post Nov 4 2015, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 4 2015, 12:04 PM)
I have windows 7 home edition on my HP envy 17 laptop.
Got the windows 10 upgrade for free too.

But should i update to Win 10 now?
Heard so many issues now.
Some more i use a lot of ehem softwares like photoshop & some research simulation softwares. Heard Win 10 won't be able to run these ehem softwares is it true??
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no issue with wins 10 except privacy issue (google it). wins 10 far more stable than wins 8.1/7 in terms of performance/ ram usage and gaming.

regarding pirated software... no problem as far as i know
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post Nov 4 2015, 12:40 PM

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Just some quick questions:

1. does Windows 10 comes with free Microsoft Outlook for email management? Is it the Outlook 2016 or something like Outlook that comes with Win 8.1 aka Mail?
2. should i do UPGRADE from Win 7 or do a FRESH,CLEAN installation of Win 10? Any difference between these two in terms of retaining hardware drivers / migration from Win 7 to Win 10?
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post Nov 4 2015, 12:55 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 4 2015, 12:40 PM)
Just some quick questions:

1. does Windows 10 comes with free Microsoft Outlook for email management? Is it the Outlook 2016 or something like Outlook that comes with Win 8.1 aka Mail?
2. should i do UPGRADE from Win 7 or do a FRESH,CLEAN installation of Win 10? Any difference between these two in terms of retaining hardware drivers / migration from Win 7 to Win 10?
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1- microsoft outlook is part of microsoft office. In wins 10 , it came with mail app like windows 8/8.1 but with slight improvement in GUI
2- If you don’t take advantage of the upgrade process first, this registration will never happen. There’s no way to enter a Windows 7 or 8.1 key into the Windows 10 installer, nor is there some sort of web form that will give you a Windows 10 key if you provide your Windows 7 or 8.1 key. Sorry — you’ll have to upgrade to Windows 10 before you can perform a clean install.
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post Nov 8 2015, 02:13 AM

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I was like jumped into the upgrading bandwagon, registering win7 sp1 and took like 16gb of broadband quota to update it. Also downloaded win 10 iso hoping that if nothing pops from the default update I might as well gunning for a blind install.

But there's no more free upgrade to w10 right?
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post Nov 8 2015, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 8 2015, 02:13 AM)
I was like jumped into the upgrading bandwagon, registering win7 sp1 and took like 16gb of broadband quota to update it. Also downloaded win 10 iso hoping that if nothing pops from the default update I might as well gunning for a blind install.

But there's no more free upgrade to w10 right?
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the free upgrade is valid until july 2016.

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post Nov 9 2015, 04:25 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 8 2015, 03:41 AM)
the free upgrade is valid until july 2016.
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Yes, it took them a while after the update to offer the upgrade. Now upgrading at 10% progress. Hopefully the upgrade didnt wipe out the entire partitions on the hdd as I click upgrade and left it just like that for a late snack without giving any input as to how the upgrade should be done. Suppose there should be a prompt, if there's one I missed that already because I heard the reboot beep and didnt bother to check what's going on at the screen.

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Just finished installing, activated (I just click activate, it doesn't ask for key) and running on it now. Luckily the upgrade process didn't interfere with anything. The first hiccups was I have to install DX9 to play World Of Tanks. Reading review/howto on net one should do backup before upgrading but everything seems to be fine even I had the AV Bit-defender Total Security on during the process but it was smooth transition for now.

This post has been edited by PedangGila: Nov 9 2015, 05:37 AM
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post Nov 9 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 9 2015, 04:25 AM)
Yes, it took them a while after the update to offer the upgrade. Now upgrading at 10% progress. Hopefully the upgrade didnt wipe out the entire partitions on the hdd as I click upgrade and left it just like that for a late snack without giving any input as to how the upgrade should be done. Suppose there should be a prompt, if there's one I missed that already because I heard the reboot beep and didnt bother to check what's going on at the screen.

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Just finished installing, activated (I just click activate, it doesn't ask for key) and running on it now. Luckily the upgrade process didn't interfere with anything. The first hiccups was I have to install DX9 to play World Of Tanks. Reading review/howto on net one should do backup before upgrading but everything seems to be fine even I had the AV Bit-defender Total Security on during the process but it was smooth transition for now.
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you're one of the lucky ones. in general, it's recommended to do full system and data backups before doing anything like os upgrade. this gives you guaranteed options to revert/recover successfully from disasters. actually a much simpler way is to do it with a spare disk first. that way you will never have a chance to screw up your current system.

well, good for you anyway haha
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post Nov 9 2015, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 9 2015, 09:38 AM)
you're one of the lucky ones. in general, it's recommended to do full system and data backups before doing anything like os upgrade. this gives you guaranteed options to revert/recover successfully from disasters. actually a much simpler way is to do it with a spare disk first. that way you will never have a chance to screw up your current system.

well, good for you anyway haha
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Yea very lucky. The HDD is my own personal museum with stuff dated 15 years ago, I'd be really pissed of with myself if the drive wipe happened. Before the upgrade I installed Bitdefender, Ms 2007 office, foobar, klite codec and there were some files in the download folder. The upgrade never touch them really. I test run all those pre-installed and they worked fine. Not recommended to all upgrading blindly, it's just im too excited for my first ever licensed OS or PC software that is.

I must say this is my first experience upgrading the OS as I skipped win 8 and of course win 10 feels like home as if nothing changed. Task manager seems to ditch the multi core graph. Oh my excel files loaded faster too. Start menu seems more organized and have to right click to get the run command option.

Next challenge is to clone the OS partition onto a new SSD. Getting the Samsung evo 120gb as I feel 60gb is not enough la nowadays for OS partition.
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post Nov 10 2015, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 9 2015, 07:23 PM)
Yea very lucky. The HDD is my own personal museum with stuff dated 15 years ago, I'd be really pissed of with myself if the drive wipe happened. Before the upgrade I installed Bitdefender, Ms 2007 office, foobar, klite codec and there were some files in the download folder. The upgrade never touch them really. I test run all those pre-installed and they worked fine. Not recommended to all upgrading blindly, it's just im too excited for my first ever licensed OS or PC software that is.

I must say this is my first experience upgrading the OS as I skipped win 8 and of course win 10 feels like home as if nothing changed. Task manager seems to ditch the multi core graph. Oh my excel files loaded faster too. Start menu seems more organized and have to right click to get the run command option.

Next challenge is to clone the OS partition onto a new SSD. Getting the Samsung evo 120gb as I feel 60gb is not enough la nowadays for OS partition.
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wow. 15 years. don't do that again.

the multi-core graph for cpu is in resource monitor now.

as for cloning to new ssd, i think it's better for you to do some checks first. ssd needs ahci as optimal sata operation option (it's either ahci or raid). if your current os is running on sata mode other than ahci or raid, you will need to check out necessary registry tweaks after cloning.

another way to do this is to create a system image with built-in windows recovery tool. i have been using this one for some times. as long as your target disk is larger than your current disk, the process should be seamless.

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post Nov 10 2015, 11:54 AM

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my hdd only lsat for 5 years before it dead
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post Nov 10 2015, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 10 2015, 11:22 AM)
wow. 15 years. don't do that again.

the multi-core graph for cpu is in resource monitor now.

as for cloning to new ssd, i think it's better for you to do some checks first. ssd needs ahci as optimal sata operation option (it's either ahci or raid). if your current os is running on sata mode other than ahci or raid, you will need to check out necessary registry tweaks after cloning.

another way to do this is to create a system image with built-in windows recovery tool. i have been using this one for some times. as long as your target disk is larger than your current disk, the process should be seamless.
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It's in normal data mode alright. Thank you for the heads up.

QUOTE(kiritoffx @ Nov 10 2015, 11:54 AM)
my hdd only lsat for 5 years before it dead
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The some content is dated 15 years but hdd is around 4 years of age. 80% health with around 600 days on time. That if you think my hdd is 15 years old.
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Hi there, I'd like to ask something. Is it possible to do the upgrade without a separate bootable DVD or flash drive?
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post Nov 10 2015, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Nov 10 2015, 06:20 PM)
Hi there, I'd like to ask something. Is it possible to do the upgrade without a separate bootable DVD or flash drive?
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via windows update or direct from internal hdd (just run setup and choose upgrade or clean install)
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post Nov 11 2015, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 10 2015, 11:22 AM)
another way to do this is to create a system image with built-in windows recovery tool. i have been using this one for some times. as long as your target disk is larger than your current disk, the process should be seamless.
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By this you mean, after I installed the SSD then ask the recovery tool to unpack the backup image in HDD into the new SSD? Then disconnect the HDD, boot with SSD?
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post Nov 11 2015, 08:08 PM

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Ha btw kiri, allow me to hijack your thread bro. Hehe
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post Nov 11 2015, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 11 2015, 02:00 AM)
By this you mean, after I installed the SSD then ask the recovery tool to unpack the backup image in HDD into the new SSD? Then disconnect the HDD, boot with SSD?
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Copy entire hard disk to another or migrate OS from HDD to SSD without Windows reinstallation.

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use free edition
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post Nov 11 2015, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 11 2015, 02:00 AM)
By this you mean, after I installed the SSD then ask the recovery tool to unpack the backup image in HDD into the new SSD? Then disconnect the HDD, boot with SSD?
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yes. something like that. use windows built-in system recovery tool to create a system image of the current os in an external hdd. boot the computer with windows installation media and choose repair computer to proceed. it preserves everything (depending on what you choose to become part of the system image), including os activation state, and all os updates / sofware patches that you have applied.
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post Nov 12 2015, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(kiritoffx @ Nov 11 2015, 09:38 PM)
Copy entire hard disk to another or migrate OS from HDD to SSD without Windows reinstallation.

EaseUS Partition Master

use free edition
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My target ssd is just 120 GB but the whole content hdd is about 400GB. You have used this software to copy the OS partition, namely C: to a new sdd eh?

add: Bought Paragon Migrate OS 4.0 for rm90+. In the end it might end up costly sweat.gif

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post Nov 12 2015, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 11 2015, 11:37 PM)
yes. something like that. use windows built-in system recovery tool to create a system image of the current os in an external hdd. boot the computer with windows installation media and choose repair computer to proceed. it preserves everything (depending on what you choose to become part of the system image), including os activation state, and all os updates / sofware patches that you have applied.
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The whole image is like 40GB but sadly it's on the same hdd. I might have to redo it using other hdd. Thank you.
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QUOTE(PedangGila @ Nov 12 2015, 07:27 AM)
The whole image is like 40GB but sadly it's on the same hdd. I might have to redo it using other hdd. Thank you.
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Oh that's ok. If it's a system image created with windows tools, it should be able to use that image for system restore to new ssd.

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