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post Apr 8 2016, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 7 2016, 10:29 PM)
Naw. Initially i only bought 1 albino and lots of normal female but keep culling/put non albino to my pond until i got albino. Kindda take a while but the batch after that got lots of defect.. some with crooked body.. but now I guess the mix got good no defect body, just defect color  rclxub.gif ..

I see.. don't really need AOC trait now, just need guppy with ribbon trait  biggrin.gif . Don't feel like throwing all of them to my pond to start new breeding as it has already been so many years keeping them  tongue.gif.  Do PM me if you have ribbon male don't really care if it has defect bone or color.

I'm breeding for hobby not for competition. As I'm not the person that can keep the fish in nice/good shape. They will be a total waste if the fall on my hand  drool.gif Really appreciate for the offer though. Good luck on the coming competition then  icon_rolleyes.gif cause as i see the competition fish quality is outstanding.. nothing compare to mine.
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can i know why do you need a ribbon male fish in the first place?
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post Apr 8 2016, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 8 2016, 11:12 AM)
To breed ribbon trait. Fancy ribbon guppy now.

But from what read from some places, breeding using male ribbon guppy have very very low chance cause male ribbon guppy will have very long gonopodium which mean hard for it to breed if i'm not mistaken. Unless the male ribbon guppy have the gene but doesn't show physically or with normal gonopodium then that might be able to breed and produce 1/4 chance of ribbon guppy.. correct me if i'm wrong hahaha...
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not entirely wrong also la.
let's make it simple. ribbon male has no productivity capability, so it makes me wonder why do you want a male ribbon fish.

this is not the right way to breed ribbon guppies. you try putting just ribbon male fish with a female, forever wont give birth.

thats why i say it's sold in a trio.
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post Apr 8 2016, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 8 2016, 06:29 PM)
Saw some selling trio and some pair... just wondering cause i'm not an expert as i'm just those take the fish, throw into the aquarium, feed them and let them breed those kind of guy hhahah..

Ok, question. If you say I putting 1 male ribbon and the result will be, I won't get any baby guppy.. so, what difference does it make to have 2 male and 1 female? or you are referring to that if I get 1 male the chance will be like.... 10% breeding rate? and with 2 male I assume I might get 20%-50%? since the female will be constantly get "attacked" and female tend to give up due to no space to hide or run.. is that what you mean?

Because I see lots of charts on how to do selective breeding and to get the best of the best  thumbup.gif . but i'm no smart brain guy as I can't figure it out how can i really get certain trait or breed. Not to mention it's very very time consuming, money, space and I need lots of passion. Tried before and gave up after some time as no time, money and space  bangwall.gif
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Ribbon fish cannot be sold in pair, if you bought in pair for ribbon, or you didn’t get non ribbon male fish, means you get shortchanged. They MUST comes in at least 1 trio = 1 male (short, no ribbon) and 2 female (ribbon and non ribbon).

Ribbon male simply has no breeding capabilities, (zero) 0% breeding rate, it is just a show fish.
Now, questions. How to breed ribbon male?
Non ribbon male + ribbon female will give you the chance to get ribbon fish, both male and female, quite high chance to get ribbon fishes if the genes/traits are good and stable.

On the other hand, non ribbon female will not be able to produce ribbon fish, both male and female.
but…….. you need to constantly giving birth to non ribbon male in order to keep the generation going (since the ribbon male cannot breed).
If you only pair up ribbon female to give birth and isolate non ribbon female, soon your generation will extinct, as there will be no more non ribbon male fish who can produce anymore as you only keep breeding ribbon male who cannot breed.

So conclusion, for ribbon guppies play, you need to have more tanks for breeding as you will have fry from ribbon and non ribbon.

Clear the above clarifies. dont give up for the wrong reason, i believe you didnt get the right knowledge on ribbon play, thats why frustrated.

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post Apr 8 2016, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 8 2016, 07:40 PM)
hmm.gif I though i saw a web selling 2 male 1 female not sure about 2 female 1 male though...  If selling 2 female, 1 ribbon and non with 1 male is a good start also as what you mention. At least that sound more logic. How about clipping the gonopodium of the ribbon male?  biggrin.gif but heard it's just a rumor as it's cruel and might kill the priceless ribbon guppy. Might be some one already succeed just haven't seen the article yet.

Non ribbon female won't give birth to ribbon guppy? even one of the parents with that gene?  confused.gif guess the chart I saw before not 100% true... or only for pattern (albino, snakeskin, and etc) reference..

thumbup.gif  Thanks for the great info. I guess I need to scrap this ribbon guppy plan, even if i have the thought. More tanks... = home minister sure reject  bruce.gif this proposal  doh.gif...
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clipping? no way, you get ppl to cut your gugu, can? cannot right..... cannot survive la, i also seen ppl do it before, 3days later the fish died lor.

ya, no ribbon female can almost never be able to give birth to ribbon guppy. if you dont believe me, you can try.... hehe...

can la, just buy a 2ft, 3 compartment tanks can start your project ribbon already! rclxm9.gif
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post Apr 8 2016, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(dp82 @ Apr 8 2016, 08:02 PM)
My 3 lovely guppies RIP. Damm...
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what breed are they?
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post Apr 9 2016, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(victorsoo @ Apr 9 2016, 12:27 AM)
Bro, I learned quite a bit about ribbon guppies just by reading these few exchanges. Haha. Thanks.
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no worries bro, can always post questions, will try to answer...
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post Apr 11 2016, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(KenJan @ Apr 9 2016, 06:15 PM)
Where can I buy guppy fish tank in pj area? Any good and reasonable price place ? Im looking for a small tank maybe 1ft to 1 and half ft tank . Izzit good enough for guppy ?thanks
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you can get from fish depot, i think less than 50 bucks can get a 2ft tank with 3 compartments. 1ft is very good for guppy ad, can be the main tank, but you should have more tanks for breeding purposes, to raise fry (though this can be put in the large plastic tank for about 3 weeks to 1 month), to seperate male and female fish. so yup, at least 4 tanks for the start. 2ft 3 compartments (1 main, 1 male only, 1 female only, and large plastic tank for fry (maybe need 1 more if you guppy give birth fast enough) hehe...

QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 9 2016, 10:10 PM)
Haha, cannot also unless i wanna work at forbidden city haha, or become "Eunuch" hehehe. I see.. so.. some one so crazy to go to that extent.  rclxms.gif
I see. Not sure about that, but my female hasn't giving any ribbon baby up until now. Probably i don't have ribbon guppy at the first place. Wanna donate to me and let me try?  brows.gif  have 2 2 ft aquarium but compartment...might be need to DIY then cause saw someone with 2 feet also but made lots of compartment but i'm curious about the filter system as the aquarium could be very bad due to the separation. Would like to start another project hahah... let's wait longer  sweat.gif Home minister sure screw me up and down.. if she suspect i'm starting a project that she think is wasting time and money  icon_idea.gif
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small amount of money with huge satisfaction, i dont know what is there to screw, are you gonna eat just white bread for the rest of the month if you spend let's say 100 bucks on tank + air pump + filter + anti chlorine + salt + etc? I dont have any other filtration system apart from just an air pump with sponge filter in the tank.

dont keep asking ppl to donate leh, ribbon fishes doesnt come cheap, we bought also expensive from the start, moreover, we dont know what breed exactly are yours. fancy guppies are not supposed to mix and like i said before, you want a male ribbon fish for what? they cannot breed... buy a trio la, start your own project! brows.gif

QUOTE(davlee @ Apr 10 2016, 09:52 PM)
My recently started breeding tanks...  tongue.gif
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this guy got poisoned already. rclxms.gif

Edit: by the way, can fill water up to around 70% full. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(davlee @ Apr 11 2016, 12:07 PM)
Memang kena poison...

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joe putta's fish? lel.... i don't want to comment anything but good luck if you wanna buy.


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post Apr 11 2016, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 11 2016, 08:14 PM)
What's the dimension? 2ft x 1 ft tank?
Quite satisfied when i success breeding all the albino almost lost the project cause my 2 albino male guppy went K.O left all non albino female. If you have a lovely wife that support you with anything you want then you won't know it. Mine isn't that lovely  brows.gif . I think she's thinking that using money for food is better than on fish or hobby. I use less on those equipment smile.gif cause I have been keeping fish since young just all die at one point... Always reuse back those aquariums and equipments. Only sponge filter.... Use to breed shrimps also biggrin.gif but they die easier.

Hehehe, who knows you are kind to donate leh? j/k. I know Ribbon guppies are rare and expensive also cause don't see LFS sell them. Some LFS do sell if they have potential buyer. If no demand don't think the LFS will take the risk to keep them. Mine were fancy guppies also but got them with RM2.50 each so not really those high end type. Hahah, wanna try to see if they really can't breed as you say hehehe wanna prove you wrong tongue.gif Buy trio.... got someone selling ribbon at web but not sure wannna try.. cause if i do I need to get rid of my guppies to make room to breed the ribbon guppies.  bangwall.gif To do or not to do  cry.gif very tempting to start.
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can la, convince her lor..... hobby also wanna kill it meh? what's life without hobby? without doing something that you like.........? haha...
yeah, just use sponge filter la, mine also bare tank + sponge filter only, very low cost setup.
i wanna try shrimps soon too. hehe....

donate cannot la, sell cheaper can la. but there is a market rate for such fishes la, cannot spoil the market also... we do supply to some LFS too.
no point proving me wrong la, you can go ask those sifu, see if what i say is right or not, cus i also learn from those sifu. hehe...

can la, clear those cheapo guppies, put in a container and keep them, meanwhile, breed some read guppies brows.gif
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post Apr 12 2016, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(davlee @ Apr 11 2016, 11:46 PM)
Ini budak kuat poison ni.... I'm one of the victim. Once you bought a nice breed, you really won't look back... Hahaha
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this is to make this thread more lively ma, this thread has been around since 2008 you know. so kecian.... hahaha...

QUOTE(victorsoo @ Apr 12 2016, 12:10 AM)
That's quite cheap. Mind if I ask where did you get the tank from? And it comes compartmentalised already?
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can get from a local fish store, the store that you frequent visit, you know which one i talk about, next to our cod place.
do you have member? if not, let me know, i can go buy for you, can get 10% discount. hehe.... rclxms.gif

Edit: 2006, 10 years already! cry.gif

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QUOTE(victorsoo @ Apr 12 2016, 12:32 PM)
Oh, I know where to go then. Haha.
Yup, I have member there. BUT...I have to remind myself that I have no extra space at home for another 2 feet tank...although starting a guppy breeding project sounds so tempting.  biggrin.gif
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can get some small space to start doing it, but it will be trouble some if you keep expanding bit by bit and your stuff bought might be a waste if cannot be used.

my suggestion, get a boltless rack and start your project. the rack is so cheap, 3ft long rack cost you about 90 bucks and 120 bucks for a 4ft. which you can keep at least 10+ tanks for a 3ft type and 15+ tanks for a 4ft rack. so much cheaper than an aquarium cabinet.


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QUOTE(davlee @ Apr 12 2016, 03:09 PM)
Nah you see... poison come again... hahaha
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lol... mana ada lar???
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QUOTE(frequency @ Apr 18 2016, 10:11 AM)
My current small pond for 4 guppy 2 black tuxedo 2 red tuxedo
It is about 40cm diameter round shape and 28cm depth.

Too crowded to put more guppy?
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only if you know what you are doing, otherwise the water condition turns bad quickly if you feed a lot.

i have about 50 - 60 fishes in a small tank like 20cm x 29cm x 25cm
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QUOTE(frequency @ Apr 18 2016, 11:26 AM)
wah high density, currently i am using DIY sponge filter so far so good
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i'm also using just one small sponge filter.

if you know what you are doing, then it's fine, but not recommended though.
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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Apr 19 2016, 06:51 PM)
anyway around kl got sell ar?
i see alot look like the pic u post, scare bought wrong lol
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otto wont get wrong 1 la, very easy to find, unlike SAE and flying fox, they look 95% similar and very hard to differentiate...

QUOTE(naoki666 @ Apr 22 2016, 04:29 PM)
Ya, SAE sure like to chase each other might be territory issue. Otos are escape artist biggrin.gif I had lots of problem catching them even at bare aquarium... well, as long as your guppies live comfortably with SAE will be good. My only neighbour with guppies is cardinal, oto, and bumblebee goby. Do notice bumblebee goby can take fry but bumblebee goby are lazy. So not much problem for fry running away.
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yeah, otto is the best choice, SAE can be territorial and offensive when they grow big, they can even grow up to 6 inch...... so otto is way to go. you can also try adding apple snails, they do help eat a bit...

QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 22 2016, 05:04 PM)
any 1 willing to donate some to me?

if some of you are having extra la...

as long big tail and cantik will do ad..
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donation is a sensitive word to use in our country for now. hehe....
somemore still want cantik rclxub.gif

donate cannot la, sell you cheap can la, then throw in some for you too. only if you are interested....

p/s: pure strain guppies... not longkang guppies....

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QUOTE(shelby_yong @ Apr 25 2016, 02:39 PM)
ok can can.. let me find nice aquarium 1st..

then will let u know
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haha sure! but very limited number left la... just to let you know, i'm clearing my tanks, so doing some real promotion. brows.gif

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QUOTE(EternalC @ Apr 25 2016, 09:28 PM)
bro, u ada rasbora let me know hahaha
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rasbora not guppy wor.....

QUOTE(davlee @ Apr 26 2016, 12:17 AM)
Pm me PM me
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too bad............
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QUOTE(EternalC @ Apr 27 2016, 09:33 PM)
just saying

mana tau u expand lol
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what type of rasbora? can get from LFS easily what?
I'm still on just guppy and pleco and shrimps lo.... no other fishes also........
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QUOTE(frequency @ May 8 2016, 03:49 PM)
my guppies

topped up another 3 female and 2 male last month, total to 9

today  found 1 old male dead  bye.gif  but discovered new 3 baby about 2,3 mm hiding around the stones
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it could have been a lot more. guppies normally doesn't give birth to a single digit number. 3 fry is really not normal, i suspect the remaining got eaten by the adult fishes.

suggest you to do selective breeding and raise the fry separately, that way, you will have a lot more guppies....

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QUOTE(frequency @ May 11 2016, 05:56 PM)
bad news, my guppies 8 now become 2 sad.gif

3 dead as water contaminated with fertilizer of plants

I suspect the rest either eaten by birds (my tank is outdoor, balcony) or lizards , cannot find the corpse
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it is not normal......... which is why normally i keep them indoor....
they are normally quite hardy... not too hard to keep and breed easily, which is why we love them. hehe...

it's ok, get a tank and keep a real pair. they will spark your interest again....... hehe

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