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> [WTComplaint] Lowyat.net VIP - PCcrazy, didn't complete the deal.

zhen^wei
post Dec 9 2006, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(deric88 @ Dec 9 2006, 09:42 AM)
after reading from page 1-8,
i wouldn't be on threadstarters side...

imagine you are the seller, a very busy guy.......and not feeling well
forgotten floppy cable, io panel and receipt due to busy......
the next thing he finds out his name in dispute....
how would you feel...?

if i were pccrazy, i would do the same thing, for something as cheap as floppy cable and io panel which cost less than RM10 got name in dispute and no more VIP tag..... i will also be pissed....and not sending you the stuff, you got my name in shame, you want the item u come collect.....

maybe it's just threadstarter or "Malaysians" tht is kai kau (dunno what english word)
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nope. u dont understand.
ya. this is small thing. but IO panel such a rare thing and hard to find in market that suit for certain motherboard.
i can understand if he is busy and dont answer my call, and sms for 1 week. but 1 month i waiting and at last i complaint here. and now almost 2 months, i haven't get any feedback from him.
ya, the small thing cost less than RM10, but i willing pay him RM10 to post all the things to me.
the issue here is a responsibility of a seller.
u know what i do to 2 forumers few weeks ago ? i selling my motherboard and graphic card to 2 different forumers. but when i post i forgot put the graphic card accessories(Dvi to VGA plug, and Y power cable), and motherboard drivers.
then the forumers pm me about this. at the next day, i use pos expess courier the things to them, even i have to spend Rm15++ to buy the dvi to vga converter and y power cable because i lost it..
why a VIP canot do like this ? why he sell the motherboard and dont care any ? if the motherboard i found out faulty, and ask for warranty, then u think he will care about it ?

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post Dec 9 2006, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(Evogenix @ Dec 9 2006, 11:08 AM)
I 'm fully agree with you. No doubt, everyone of us can judge the personality of the threadstarter with our own eyes.
I tried to fit into your shoes, and I'm felt v sry to see your situition.

BUT, I does fit my self into PCCRAZY's shoes as well. If I'm PCCrazy, I wont even give a dam on you anymore.
As everyone can see, you can post on this thread for almost everyday(until 8 PAGES!) due to this small piece of I/O panel issues. (Indeed, its important to you, but you created it in this thread, and it just started a big issue). What you gonna tell everybody acually? if you said you're pissed PCCRAZY (individually), that will be acceptable. BUT see this your own eyes.

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Come on, BOY, DONT INSULTs THE WHOLE LYN RANKED COMMUNITY!!!
Even tho I'm not one of the community's member, but I knew whats a mind set of the ppl that wrote this in their siggy. "Childish? or "you want the whole world to know, LYN is moderated by bunches of xxx ppl?" Read back your phase of words, and re-think it your self, is it reasonable to insults the whole community due to 1 person act? (you can get a ban with this insultation phase on other admin/mod/ or whats ever ranked ppl that did no mistakes on item transactions)

Yes, I can see you're trying to tell everyone how to be a "good" trader in LYN by completing a transaction as fast as posible. BUT, dont forget everybody got their own roles in this forum. As what I can see, u came this forum to do business, and yes, a selller/business man should give the maximum service to your customer. Its a responsible to the seller/business man to make their transaction smooth and sound. And PCCRAZY not a person who do business in this forum, he got his own business in his life(not in this forum), so, its acceptable if he giving his maximum piriority and concentrate into his realy life work.

You think everybody is so free, sitting infront of monitor, shaking their balls and replying on this thread everyday? (I'm so consiuos to see how long can this thread goes with this I/O Panel issue.)

Evogenix
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em.. not i let the thread be 8 pages. i no everyday bump the thread.. but others forumers message here, and i only reply when it needed. like somebody cannot understand the situation like U, then i just reply here.

i talk much also no use, since no soluation made. btw, i have my right to complaint any of seller tat not complete the deal and look for solution here.
i put a the message at my signature just let ppl beware when them trade with the forumers that got TAG. i will change the signature, dont worry!

if u think pccrazy done a right thing (dont want to responsible to anything happen after deal), then u dont trade in forum better, next time ur turn here..hehe
okla. sorry bout it, i tell my fren to read here, he feel weird, why i am a victim also kena ppl flame.
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post Dec 9 2006, 04:26 PM

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QUOTE(KilJim @ Dec 9 2006, 11:49 AM)
The problem i have with this isn't that he didn't have the time to send the item but rather that he didn't have the time to reply 1 sms per day
Being too busy to take 1 minute per day to reply an sms doesnt seem reasonable to me
My guess is he was probably irritated in the first place and decided to ignore zhen
Anyway lets not start something which has ended, this section isnt for giving personal  opinions especially for cases which have almost ended
Don't worry about it, if u think about it it actually makes him look kinda silly having that small msg in his sig

zhen^wei, what's the situation on this now?
I'm not sure if you've got the item or you're going to get it or have gave up on it
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i will change the signature dont worry.
i haven't got the item for sure. i now at hometown, if next time i go bangi by train, i dono he will come out layan me or not.. since he so busy..haha.
i wll close this thread at the end of disember if still no solution. since i open the thread here also no use. and many ppl NOT AGREE i'm open thread to complaint a seller because of a small thing.
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post Dec 17 2006, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(ahbenggay @ Dec 17 2006, 11:39 AM)
sigh . . . . still no news on the postage for Zhen Wei ?
any update boh ?
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still no news la..haiyz
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post Dec 18 2006, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(zahri @ Dec 18 2006, 04:35 PM)
bro,

since pccrazy is willing to pay for your transportation cost, why dont u go and meet him in bangi to COD.
Peace...

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i willing pay him postage, ask him post to me.
he never said pay me transportation cost to me for COD at bangi.
and i now at melaka, not at selangor.

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post Dec 22 2006, 07:43 PM

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I can't find the I/O panel that suit with biostar in lowyat, and who know PCcrazy in personal please ask him settle with me. thanks a lot
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post Dec 26 2006, 10:14 PM

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no his personal details, but he said is ex-UPM student also
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post Dec 27 2006, 11:49 PM

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em.. if i want take from u at Kl area. which area can ? serdang ? bangi ? kl sentral ? will u ignore me and leave me wait at the location for few hours ? can u comfirm u will meet me there ? i now at melaka. i will back serdang soon, maybe i try get a time and meet u at ur location. see 1st. cas i not yet found the rear panel suit wif the motherboard, it's very troublesome also if without the panel, cas my heatsink now full with dust but only use for 1 month ++. (maybe my room quite dusty,haha)
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post Dec 28 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Dec 28 2006, 09:30 PM)
Yes I'm arrogant and I don't care. Because if I care I would send the item long time ago.

But I'm kind am I, he wants his stuff, it's here. Take it or leave it. I don't intend to keep it but let him do some work by coming here.
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why last time u dont want tell me go ur location to meet if u dont want post to me ?
last time i sms u said i pay u pos laju money, then u post the items to me, but u said not need, u said u will come my place. u remember that ? but i wait a verylong times.
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post Dec 28 2006, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Dec 28 2006, 09:55 PM)
Guys, I'm staying in Bangi and working in KL. Not taking side here, but offering solution.

zhen^wei, please advice me your location/s?

PCcrazy, let me pick up those stuffs from Bangi. I'll just pick up and say no word.

zhen^wei, if PCcrazy agrees, we'll set a location for collection. Again, I'll just deliver and say no word.

zhen^wei, if you both agree, our meet up time and location will determine how fast u'll get those things.

zhen^wei and PCcrazy, if u both agree, sms me at 0122775735. if u dont, i'll keep quiet.

let's wrap this up guys. happy new year.
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i agree. u want meet me or post to me ?
if post to me, i can pay extra money to u no problem
hopefully pccrazy agree also. his hp number is 012-6673040
my hp is 012-7727325.thanks u so much. next time u buy items from me, i give u RM5-RM10 debate.hehe
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post Dec 28 2006, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Dec 28 2006, 10:57 PM)
i've received sms from zhen^wei, but as I've said earlier, you both have to agree first. then get PCcrazy to sms me collection point (anywhere in b.b.bangi) and time. it's crucial here that PCcrazy agrees to hand me the items. after that rest assured i'll make sure the items reach u asap.

and i will collect the item without knowing whether it's the right item/s or in working condition. basically i just collect and deliver.

no, i dont need the money. prefer hand deliver in KL or any other placed deemed possible.
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ok, like tat we meet at kl area if pccrazy agree to meet u. thanks a lot

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post Dec 29 2006, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(PCcrazy @ Dec 29 2006, 09:10 PM)
Tomorrow meet me at warta bangi, PM me your phone number. I'll call you and you picked the item.
If you can come to KL why don't you come here, you can express your anger at me face to face, ain't that something.  wink.gif
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u so busy, i dono if i go ur place, u will come out layan me or not.. cas now u also no answer my call
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post Dec 30 2006, 09:00 AM

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u next time dont trade in Lowyat.net, ur attitude not suit with VIP or safe trader TAG. until now, i haven't received ur word -- "sorry"

This post has been edited by zhen^wei: Dec 30 2006, 09:00 AM
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post Jan 4 2007, 05:05 PM

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Status: PCcrazy no yet contact blackpc to give the item
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post Jan 4 2007, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 4 2007, 05:12 PM)
Zhen^wei stop being so bloody emo and finish the goddamned process, i wouldn't say sorry if i were faced by person like you. Stop being so anal retentive, and finish the bloody deal. Geez, bloody kids.

All of this over a damned bracket....sheesh. It's like fighting over a pack of sugus. Although the seller must give it, it's not like it makes or breaks the product.

If you keep ranting like some whiny 2 year old, nobody is going to send you anything. If i sold to you and you made such a ruckus out of things, if i could i'd get you to crawl over a mile of broken bottles just to get extra. It's not a matter of resposibility, it a matter of you acting your age and taking other factors into play instead of playing assumption (you seem to do so in every post)
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now pccrazy promise to take to blackpc who will pick from him in bangi, but pccrazy didn't contact him. if i no have the right to complaint a forumer who didn't complete the deal. then wat for this Trade Zone Helpdesk & Dispute Resolution Corner exist ? u keep ur mouth shut if u dont have any suggestion for the solution. dissapointed because got such safe trader like u. Safetrader doesn't mean tat can responsible for their trade to other forumers.
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post Jan 4 2007, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Jan 4 2007, 05:54 PM)
pccrazy send him sugus...but no sugus inside lar....jz paper wrapping..how can wor....
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wei wei wei.. why need say sugus wor..haha
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post Jan 4 2007, 06:18 PM

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2nd hand shop i went already, no selling suit the motherboard 1.
if i go his area, and call him, u think he will come out to meet me meh ? u see his behaviour like tat .
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post Jan 4 2007, 08:26 PM

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ok. can pm me if u ready to meet me. i free every weekend and friday. thank u verymuch for ur help.
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post Jan 5 2007, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(blackpc @ Jan 5 2007, 05:02 PM)
no sms yet from pccrazy as his time earlier doesnt fit my schedule. i seldom online so i expect sms from him. tq.
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he got sms u or not ?i pm him again ur hp number
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sorry empire23, i try to ignore ur message here, cas i open this thread not the critic the safe trader.
but what u said:

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Yes yes, we aren't children, that why i don't expect a fuss to be made over such a small thing. It's like me paying a seller extra 10 ringgit, and he says it's marfan to give it back to me. I'll say, keep the 10 bucks, the next time we deal, discount lah 10 ringgit. Finished.


i paying pccrazy 10 ringgit, but he gave me 9 ringgit items, and still own me 1 ringgit items mah. and i but the whole things at RM10. then is it my right to chase back the RM1 item ? it's mayb the small thing, but if without this RM1 item, the whole things cannot consider as "complete thing".

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Maybe it's just me, but i think the buyer has wasted more money than he has gained by going over and over this fiaso instead of calling up the motherboard distributer and requesting a new plate. So what does this prove in my view? It's a grude on both sides rather than just one, a running battle for battle sake. Both sides not giving in because they're pissed.


em.. if pccrazy still took the I/O panel , then why he dont want take to me or post to me ? and i have went lowyat searching the same panel, not match with my motherboard. if i buy from motherboard distributer, i think more mar fan.
and it is pccrazy job to give me back the item, if he won't, this is his problem, not me. he didn't complete his part as a seller. blackpc help us to solve the problem, but seem like pccrazy also dont want to cooperate.

thank you for ur comment, and sorry for last message i make rude to u.

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