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Killerjeff88
post Aug 26 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Aug 26 2015, 12:35 PM)
Remove all underlined exercises. Change all Bold exercises to 3x5~7.
Remove Sunday if possible.
Preferably add some arm work into your routine.

Focus on maintaining strength while dropping body-weight. Relative strength is a bitch to obtain. Things like 1.5x bw bench can take 1.5~2 years to get. 1x body-weight OHP or 2x body-weight bench can take 3 years to get. So remember that when you drop weigh.

I'll be really happy if you can report back to me here in 2 weeks on how it goes.
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Are u sure u are qualified to coach someone in their routine? hmm.gif
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post Aug 26 2015, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 03:20 PM)
Are u sure u are qualified to coach someone in their routine?  hmm.gif
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Hi CF member and good progress looking at your current avatar and previous. Grats.
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post Aug 26 2015, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 02:07 PM)
Which gym do you go to?

At this moment, only BB bench and row maintain unaffected. OHP is the first to deteriorate, followed by squats, then DL. Both OHP and squats already doing low reps. For DL, I am still not able to deload to a weight that I can do 5 reps.

Yesterday I deloaded to 285 from 315 and only manage to do 4 reps, 2 reps, 1 rep. I am not able to do 1 rep at all at 315 now.
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I go Pre Workout Gym House at BBK. RM 5 per entry. Not much machines but they have a nice squat rack.

No comment on your routine as im no expert. I suggest you go for 5/3/1 with more sets; proper pre & post workout meal; have lesser calorie intake on rest day, doesn't have to be 1,800 everyday.
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 03:33 PM)
Hi CF member and good progress looking at your current avatar and previous. Grats.
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Thanks man. Hoping to gain more strength. Im in a slow cut too. flex.gif
Good luck to ur cutting thumbup.gif
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post Aug 26 2015, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 26 2015, 03:36 PM)
I go Pre Workout Gym House at BBK. RM 5 per entry. Not much machines but they have a nice squat rack.

No comment on your routine as im no expert. I suggest you go for 5/3/1 with more sets; proper pre & post workout meal; have lesser calorie intake on rest day, doesn't have to be 1,800 everyday.
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I am seriously considering that high weight low reps on major lifts. Or at least the body condition is forcing me to do that. Cant go high weight high reps like last time anymore.

My pre workout is probably the food i eat along the day. Post workout is approximately 400kcal with protein and carbs, with low low fats.

You think it is a good idea to further cut the 1800? I felt like i run out of food to eat at 1800. Felt like one breakfast, one post workout meal, and thats it, nothing more left in the quota.

I am looking for a gym to switch. I am in gorgeous now and want to switch just to get out of the familiarity. But gorgeous is 80 bucks a month. Gympark and others are slight more expensive. Any idea of other gyms in Klang which is worth surveying? Need to get new gym in 2 months time.

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post Aug 26 2015, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 03:51 PM)
I am seriously considering that high weight low reps on major lifts. Or at least the body condition is forcing me to do that. Cant go high weight high reps like last time anymore.

My pre workout is probably the food i eat along the day. Post workout is approximately 400kcal with protein and carbs, with low low fats.

You think it is a good idea to further cut the 1800? I felt like i run out of food to eat at 1800. Felt like one breakfast, one post workout meal, and thats it, nothing more left in the quota.

I am looking for a gym to switch. I am in gorgeous now and want to switch just to get out of the familiarity. But gorgeous is 80 bucks a month. Gympark and others are slight more expensive. Any idea of other gyms in Klang which is worth surveying? Need to get new gym in 2 months time.
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Yeah. Just focus heavy on the main lifts. Simple as that. Don't complicate things.

Hmm.. I don't really track my calories man.. But the way i maintain strength is to have proper post-workout meal & eat less on rest day while on minor cut..

Gorgeous 80 a month but condition like shit.. That's the reason why i let go my membership.. Maybe u can try CF at KP? I heard its 99 per month.. OR go for pay per entry gym..
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post Aug 26 2015, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Aug 26 2015, 04:04 PM)
Yeah. Just focus heavy on the main lifts. Simple as that. Don't complicate things.

Hmm.. I don't really track my calories man.. But the way i maintain strength is to have proper post-workout meal & eat less on rest day while on minor cut..

Gorgeous 80 a month but condition like shit.. That's the reason why i let go my membership.. Maybe u can try CF at KP? I heard its 99 per month.. OR go for pay per entry gym..
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Noted bro on the heavy lifts.

I have to track those calories because I get fat easy. At 30 y/o, my metabolisme doesn't really get higher. I will juggle abit here and there, but I would want to maintain that 1800 a day.

Regarding gorgeous, beggars cannot be choosers. It is cheap though I don't like the environment there. I came from FF in BT Jusco which charge me 220 a month. So at that time it was a huge saving there. KP is too far away from my home. I have 1.5 hours to be go gym, do my things, and reach home. Kalu tak nanti bini bising. I stay in Botanic by the way.

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post Aug 26 2015, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 04:24 PM)
Noted bro on the heavy lifts.

I have to track those calories because I get fat easy. At 30 y/o, my metabolisme doesn't really get higher. I will juggle abit here and there, but I would want to maintain that 1800 a day.

Regarding gorgeous, beggars cannot be choosers. It is cheap though I don't like the environment there. I came from FF in BT Jusco which charge me 220 a month. So at that time it was a huge saving there. KP is too far away from my home. I have 1.5 hours to be go gym, do my things, and reach home. Kalu tak nanti bini bising. I stay in Botanic by the way.

Thanks.
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You can try to look around GM Klang there or beside Burger King in bukit tinggi. Not sure the price though.. and there's one RM 5 per entry at Bandar ParkLands..

Good luck dude.. wink.gif

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 04:24 PM)
Noted bro on the heavy lifts.

I have to track those calories because I get fat easy. At 30 y/o, my metabolisme doesn't really get higher. I will juggle abit here and there, but I would want to maintain that 1800 a day.

Regarding gorgeous, beggars cannot be choosers. It is cheap though I don't like the environment there. I came from FF in BT Jusco which charge me 220 a month. So at that time it was a huge saving there. KP is too far away from my home. I have 1.5 hours to be go gym, do my things, and reach home. Kalu tak nanti bini bising. I stay in Botanic by the way.

Thanks.
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For a person that's asking basic questions, your lifts are actually quite strong........
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post Aug 26 2015, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Aug 26 2015, 04:55 PM)
For a person that's asking basic questions, your lifts are actually quite strong........
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This is my first SENSIBLE cut ever since March 2014. I don't know what will happen. Just trying to ask if people here can help and share what they have been through and how they over come it. The drop in lifts is really demotivating.
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post Aug 26 2015, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 05:14 PM)
This is my first SENSIBLE cut ever since March 2014. I don't know what will happen. Just trying to ask if people here can help and share what they have been through and how they over come it. The drop in lifts is really demotivating.
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The slight drop is expected as u are eating lesser calories.
Cant be helped if u cant maintain lifting the previous.
hope its not dropping to much, might be loss of muscle sweat.gif
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post Aug 26 2015, 05:28 PM

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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 05:20 PM)
The slight drop is expected as u are eating lesser calories.
Cant be helped if u cant maintain lifting the previous.
hope its not dropping to much, might be loss of muscle  sweat.gif
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I get that point of lifting lesser. It is only demotivating but the cut is working. For the past month I have loose focus on the goal. Lets change thing abit and lets see how it goes.
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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 03:20 PM)
Are u sure u are qualified to coach someone in their routine?  hmm.gif
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Bro he's been lifting not even almost for one year and you didn't know?
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post Aug 26 2015, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Aug 26 2015, 07:24 PM)
Bro he's been lifting not even almost for one year and you didn't know?
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I do know. Hence why im asking. I trained less than a year too and i do not dare to even give any advice. We are too new to this world

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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 11:23 PM)
I do know. Hence why im asking. I trained less than a year too and i do not dare to even give any advice. We are too new to this world
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This guy even questioned darklight. So i won't even surprised.
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post Aug 26 2015, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 05:28 PM)
I get that point of lifting lesser. It is only demotivating but the cut is working. For the past month I have loose focus on the goal. Lets change thing abit and lets see how it goes.
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Well. Good luck on ur regiment thumbup.gif

QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Aug 26 2015, 11:33 PM)
This guy even questioned darklight. So i won't even surprised.
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Yeah i know. Darklight is my coach. whistling.gif
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post Aug 27 2015, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 11:36 PM)
Yeah i know. Darklight is my coach.  whistling.gif
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Biar betik bro
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post Aug 27 2015, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Killerjeff88 @ Aug 26 2015, 11:36 PM)
Well. Good luck on ur regiment  thumbup.gif
Yeah i know. Darklight is my coach.  whistling.gif
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Ok then? So u think u will look him when he coaches u? Oh wait is that u on that picture? Lol jk
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post Aug 27 2015, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(degraw1993 @ Aug 27 2015, 08:35 AM)
Ok then? So u think u will look him when he coaches u? Oh wait is that u on that picture? Lol jk
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Im more focused on strength and performance training tho laugh.gif
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Aug 26 2015, 03:51 PM)
I am seriously considering that high weight low reps on major lifts. Or at least the body condition is forcing me to do that. Cant go high weight high reps like last time anymore.

My pre workout is probably the food i eat along the day. Post workout is approximately 400kcal with protein and carbs, with low low fats.

You think it is a good idea to further cut the 1800? I felt like i run out of food to eat at 1800. Felt like one breakfast, one post workout meal, and thats it, nothing more left in the quota.

I am looking for a gym to switch. I am in gorgeous now and want to switch just to get out of the familiarity. But gorgeous is 80 bucks a month. Gympark and others are slight more expensive. Any idea of other gyms in Klang which is worth surveying? Need to get new gym in 2 months time.
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its pretty normal if u go on diet, ur lifts will b affected. d best u could do is to improve on ur technics / eat at maintenance b4 n d day on heavy.

or mayb u could tweak on ur program. i heard good things ab conjugate methods. its more to physcology thingy where u keeps on smashin PR. not really sure in depth though..

r ur cutting stalled? if its stalled, u need to cut more / adding more volume. imho, d best choice is end d cycle n start anothher after sometime.

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