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wyncent911203
post Aug 20 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 20 2015, 08:00 PM)
your ninja is 104 keys? both top and bottom also don't have the logo?
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haha i just found out.. 104 will have the branding on top of the Numpad and TKL will have it at the bottom .. sweat.gif
haha sorry for my noob-ness
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post Aug 20 2015, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 20 2015, 08:39 PM)
no worries,another noob here laugh.gif just removed a row of keycaps with copper wire,didn't use the plastic ones because I don't know how to fit the thing in the keys doh.gif
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Haha when you push the plastic keycap puller , it will snap into the keycap and u can just pull it out..
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 20 2015, 10:30 PM)
i tried,but even before it fit into the keycap,its kinda harsh on the keys,so i didn't use it laugh.gif
true...have to buy the normal wired one instead of using the insulated copper wire,kinda tedious to change the caps especially the ones with co star stab
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yea, it scratch through the keys... i thought filco had the wired keypuller with the box?

and btw im new to lowyat, can teach me how to reply more than one person in one post by quoting more than one person? thanks xD
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(himura_21 @ Aug 21 2015, 09:36 AM)
Why a lot people suggest filco? Is the keyboard that good?
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compared to most of the keyboards, it has better quality and durability
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post Aug 21 2015, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(DreamScars @ Aug 21 2015, 09:43 AM)
the standard majestouch 2 models doesn't include them anymore.
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i see i see, luckily i bought ninja biggrin.gif


QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 21 2015, 09:54 AM)
The normal one doesn't have them,I know camo and ninja version has them smile.gif not cheap lo the wire key puller,25 bucks

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Yea,I guess u need to go test it in real life..I went to lowyat and test them out to be sure for myself smile.gif
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i see i see, i have two, when i bought ikbc keycaps, they gave me one.. and now ninja gave me one too.. so i have two.. u can remove multiple keys with that keypuller biggrin.gif

wow.. thanks man.. biggrin.gif finally i know how sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 21 2015, 12:10 PM

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i've seen this article just now

http://dirtystylus.com/2011/04/18/under-the-keys/

The person says he clean his filco by soaking hot water... wont the hot water damage the keyboard??

How do u guys actually clean the dust inside the keyboard?

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post Aug 21 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 21 2015, 12:01 PM)
lucky you thumbup.gif going down to lowyat later to get the keycap puller,can't imagine pulling the rest of the keys using the copper wire sweat.gif
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haha u shud get it, its useful when u wanna remove multiple keycaps biggrin.gif reduce a lot of time
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post Aug 21 2015, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Aug 21 2015, 12:15 PM)
i wouldn't recommend hot water for ABS keycaps.
luke warm or slightly warm is alright.
my method would be putting all the keycaps into a basin and fill it up with tap water, just enough to cover all the surface of the keycaps.
then i pop in 1 or 2 tablets of dental tabs or polident.
leave it soak for about half an hour, rinse, dry and place back onto keyboard.
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how about the dust in the keyboard? how do u remove them when they stick at the base?
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post Aug 21 2015, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 21 2015, 12:29 PM)
standard keycap puller i find can break quite fast from frequent usage.

filco keypuller seems more reliable even after heavy use.
this is why is better to get a metal backplate (preferably aluminium , rather than printed pcb direct to the switches) because makes cleanup easier.

normally i'd use like a earbud tip, slightly wet cloth, or a micro size flat head screw driver and some cleaning solution to clean out my mkb tongue.gif

keycaps i'll dump into a bucket of water with cleaning solution.

i'd try to be very careful as not to get the pcb wet when cleaning the metal backplate part of the mkb, but just in case i leave the mkb to dry out before i even dare plug it in

don't do it too often cause, removing the caps too much makes them loose i would reckon  hmm.gif
for a standard mkb that uses silk-screened keycaps, the printing can wear off with use. i use instead dye sublimated and double shots, so i don't have this problem. secondary issue is the plastic itself, from constant usage when finger tips brush against the key, it can over time create a shiny oily look especially the spacebar.

my ducky pbt spacebar does not have this issue even after years of usage :}
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last time i used the chemical in the cleaning utility for computer to clean each of my keycaps when i first bought a secondhand corsair k70.
It seems fine, but will it damage the keycaps??
So now i bought a PBT keycaps and installed on my k70. i wonder can i clean with the chemical?
or i should just follow ur method to throw all the keycaps into a bucket and wash with water?
Drying up the keycaps sure will use up a lot of time tongue.gif
aiks, if removing the keycaps and clean will loosen up the keycaps, what should we do to clean? buy compressed air and blow it regularly?
And btw, what is a metal backplate? means a metal plate placed under the keycaps? so when u want to clean, just bring out the metal backplate and wash?


QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 21 2015, 01:13 PM)
thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif will do,thanks!
oh,i didn't know they could break sweat.gif will take note
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thumbup.gif show ur keyboard after u cleaned it cool2.gif

QUOTE(justnits @ Aug 21 2015, 01:44 PM)
after removing all the keycaps, i use a brush to dust off the dust, hair n other benda asing.
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for me i think the same with u man, i think brush it up is the simplest method to clean smile.gif

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post Aug 22 2015, 10:24 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 21 2015, 07:00 PM)
theres a chart here for chemical resistance for these plastic types
http://www2.ulprospector.com/resources/pla...-resistance.asp

obviously you wouldn't use something too strong that would harm it  smile.gif
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Wow I see I see, definitely won't use those man.. and hey, u haven't explain what's metal backplate to me xD

QUOTE(quadcube @ Aug 22 2015, 12:55 AM)
done cleaning and changing all the keys sweat.gif
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Wow looks so cool man.. is the keycaps the one from massdrop? I bought a set of black ones.. PBT.. haha

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post Aug 23 2015, 02:25 AM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 22 2015, 11:16 AM)
user posted image

user posted image
the backplate is this metalic partition to separate the switch stubs from the actual pcb on the otherside.

this makes cleaning up dust or other gunk from the backplate, rather than the pcb (which is not good to mess with directly for the obvious reasons  laugh.gif  )

spilt drinks is another story  rolleyes.gif
pcb mounted looks something like this
user posted image
harder to clean....
i'll try this next time  smile.gif
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i see i see, can we install the metal backplate into filco keyboards? but when u do the cleaning job, u will have to remove all the switches to clean the metal plate? doesnt it seems more complicated? blink.gif blink.gif
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post Aug 24 2015, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 23 2015, 02:41 AM)
Filco is plate mounted by default, in other words, there's already metal plate.

As for cleaning, removing the keycaps (all preferably, if you not confident with large modifier keys like Enter, spacebar and so on, leave them untouched). Turn the keyboard upside down on your lap then start shaking/slapping it. Then use tiny brush or air blower to blow off the remaining dusts/dandruff/pieces of food. That should be clean enough but if you are despo, get a cloth and alchohol then start wiping them before reinstall everything.
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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 23 2015, 03:29 AM)
nah just removing keycaps is enough. then just clean the backplate while it's still attached to the switches.

i'm not confident enough i could fully dissasemble/reassemble  sweat.gif
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i see i see, means its just like the normal way of cleaning ? i think removing the backplate is such a complicated way to do it xD
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post Aug 24 2015, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Aug 24 2015, 04:49 AM)
Yeah, dont need remove backplate for no reason.

And FYI, backplate cant be removed without desolder every single switches of the keyboard first, it is only mean to be removed when you are doing a total overhaul.
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QUOTE(justnits @ Aug 24 2015, 09:26 AM)
erm, i really don't recommend u to wash your backplate without desoldering the switches and separating the pcb.
unless there's oil or food or "sticky substance" stuck to your plate, then you should consider doing cleaning to your backplate.
one way you can do this is by using Q-tip cotton swabs dipped with cleaning solution (not too much) and gently rub it on the area you wish to clean.
it might be tedious, but it's less tedious compared to desoldering all the switches.

if it's just dust and hair, using brush to brush them off is good enough.
whoa!! legendary veteran submariner sighted!!
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i see i see, so just use brush or canned air to clean the usual dirts? i saw a electrical compressed air blower selling at Massdrop, want to buy it so much but its kinda expensive sad.gif
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post Aug 24 2015, 03:26 PM

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guys, is there any way i can find a white space bar for my corsair k70? really eager to find one sad.gif
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post Aug 25 2015, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Aug 25 2015, 01:42 PM)
Just found out really nice design keyboard in CM Storm website just now.. Probably existed last month. smile.gif
No logo in the front and side like previous CM Storm keyboard line up.
Feel more personalised this time like "Make it yours"

CM Storm XTi
http://gaming.coolermaster.com/en/products.../quickfire-xti/
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Time to update front page soon with more keyboards. nod.gif
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wow its so pretty, looks a little similar to Ducky shine 4 cool2.gif

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