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 Personal Financial Management, Are you always lacking $$$$?

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post Nov 24 2006, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(aichiban @ Nov 23 2006, 08:23 PM)
I always pay myself 1st every month. After banking into my mum, car loan and study loan, all the rest - 60% is for myself.
I have virtually 0 expenditure, not even petrol or phone. Food too!!
(company subsidized)

But whenever I go back to Malaysia, my accounts will automatically drop to 0
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I think you fall under the category of being starve of spending so when u get back here you go on a SPENDING BINGE.. kekekeke... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 24 2006, 12:29 AM)
But isnt it only heavy user that charges will be less than the discount + goods?
Usually light user that hardly spend dun use that much discount too....charges pay a lot lar.... icon_idea.gif
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ehh - can you give an example of what you're talking about? cos even the definition of heavy vs light is vague enough already.

but do remember that CC beside being a CREDIT card, it is also helpful to make things more convenient. for example, paying using CC at petrol kiosk, it's very fast and best of all i don't have to carry around cash or withdraw cash to pump petrol


QUOTE(medicontherun @ Nov 24 2006, 01:07 AM)
i agree bout the heavy user thing..
alot of the goods u redeem need a lot of points..
@goldfries: i see.. ok.. i didn't mean any malicious intent by that statement i just wanted to know more detail..
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don't worry, me don't see your post that way - hence only explanations. biggrin.gif
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post Nov 24 2006, 10:50 AM

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For me, I only sign up credit card which is free annual fee. So, there is no charge for me even I do use or do not use the credit card.

Make sure you pay the credit card bill every month, then no charge you have to pay, and you can get discount when shopping, dining or doing auto payment of your utilities bills.
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 24 2006, 10:50 AM)
For me, I only sign up credit card which is free annual fee. So, there is no charge for me even I do use or do not use the credit card.

Make sure you pay the credit card bill every month, then no charge you have to pay, and you can get discount when shopping, dining or doing auto payment of your utilities bills.
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yeh... credit card got its benefit if we never over use it... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Lover @ Nov 24 2006, 01:39 PM)
yeh... credit card got its benefit if we never over use it... whistling.gif
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over use? you are limited by your credit anyway. smile.gif IMO frequent usage is not a problem. just as long as it is used with the correct mindset
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I think the "over use" means don't use more than what you have. Normally the credit limit is few times more than your salary. So, better plan your CC expenses. Only use your CC when you really got money to pay the bill at the end of the month.
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post Nov 26 2006, 12:08 PM

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i only use credit card whenever i can so that i can collect points, i just think in terms of more value for my money lah since i get extra stuff mah
give example: u buy cash RM100 n get the item only
i use my credit card buy RM100 n i get 1 point then i use it that 1 point and get RM100 McDonald voucher to eat
which do u think is worth more? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Nov 24 2006, 10:28 AM)
ehh - can you give an example of what you're talking about? cos even the definition of heavy vs light is vague enough already.

but do remember that CC beside being a CREDIT card, it is also helpful to make things more convenient. for example, paying using CC at petrol kiosk, it's very fast and best of all i don't have to carry around cash or withdraw cash to pump petrol
don't worry, me don't see your post that way - hence only explanations. biggrin.gif
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good point since its not safe to carry cash anymore, but should carry some lah since if the robber don't get any money, they're going to be pissed off sweat.gif

QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 24 2006, 10:50 AM)
For me, I only sign up credit card which is free annual fee. So, there is no charge for me even I do use or do not use the credit card.

Make sure you pay the credit card bill every month, then no charge you have to pay, and you can get discount when shopping, dining or doing auto payment of your utilities bills.
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annual fee is irrelevant anymore these days, u just say u cancel its free already whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Nov 26 2006, 12:08 PM)
i only use credit card whenever i can so that i can collect points, i just think in terms of more value for my money lah since i get extra stuff mah
give example: u buy cash RM100 n get the item only
i use my credit card buy RM100 n i get 1 point then i use it that 1 point and get RM100 McDonald voucher to eat
which do u think is worth more? tongue.gif
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some times i don't use CC cos figure too small and a hassle for me (i find) to wait and sign. tongue.gif but AFAIK each RM is 1 point, at least to Citibank. biggrin.gif takes quite a while to get sufficient points to redeem useful stuff.

QUOTE(kei18kun @ Nov 26 2006, 12:13 PM)
good point since its not safe to carry cash anymore, but should carry some lah since if the robber don't get any money, they're going to be pissed off sweat.gif
annual fee is irrelevant anymore these days, u just say u cancel its free already whistling.gif
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yeah. carry some la, that one is a must cos if you "sway sway" get into accident or something then at least got some money to pay people. not under-table money la, but accident money and stuff.

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QUOTE(kei18kun @ Nov 26 2006, 12:08 PM)
i only use credit card whenever i can so that i can collect points, i just think in terms of more value for my money lah since i get extra stuff mah
give example: u buy cash RM100 n get the item only
i use my credit card buy RM100 n i get 1 point then i use it that 1 point and get RM100 McDonald voucher to eat
which do u think is worth more? tongue.gif
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But how bout the charges of cc by bank? It might be quite a lot then it will be not worth... blush.gif
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post Nov 26 2006, 11:26 PM

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If you pay the full amount of your bill every month, then there is no charge at all. So, make sure you have the cash to pay your CC bill every month.

I prefer to have free for life CC, cause it's a hassle as well for me to call them in advance to request for waiver. They might not waive your fee also, and we need to cancel the card if we don't want it anymore. I just prefer CC with no hassle at all....
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 26 2006, 11:26 PM)
If you pay the full amount of your bill every month, then there is no charge at all. So, make sure you have the cash to pay your CC bill every month.

I prefer to have free for life CC, cause it's a hassle as well for me to call them in advance to request for waiver. They might not waive your fee also, and we need to cancel the card if we don't want it anymore. I just prefer CC with no hassle at all....
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any good recommendation? wanna ask got CC that direct cut from ur ac?
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 26 2006, 11:59 PM)
any good recommendation? wanna ask got CC that direct cut from ur ac?
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As long as you have an account (saving/current) at the CC issuing bank, you can sign a form to authorise the card centre to auto debit from ur a/c each month.
But make sure you have sufficient funds in the a/c.
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 26 2006, 11:59 PM)
any good recommendation? wanna ask got CC that direct cut from ur ac?
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5ive,

I think that is a BAD idea!!! If there is a billing mistake, your money will be gone from your bank A/C and you will NOT even know that.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:51 AM)
5ive,

I think that is a BAD idea!!! If there is a billing mistake, your money will be gone from your bank A/C and you will NOT even know that.

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For sure we have to check the credit card bill and saving account statement always.
For those who are using CC, I recommend you all record down all the transaction amount that you did with your CC, so that you can check if the bill is correct or not.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 27 2006, 07:51 AM)
5ive,

I think that is a BAD idea!!! If there is a billing mistake, your money will be gone from your bank A/C and you will NOT even know that.

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But then we should check it, isnt it?
even the usual CC we oso ought to check it, so i think no different.
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i sense we're straying out of topic and into CC discussion.

anyway, let's try to bring this back to topic at hand.

i personally observe my CC usage to optimize it for my finance. smile.gif if you can't pay off your credits used all at once, plan out something that you can comfortably settle within a period of time.

sure, you're charged some % but then you already have the advantage of delayed payment - so it's fair.
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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 27 2006, 12:16 PM)
For sure we have to check the credit card bill and saving account statement always.
For those who are using CC, I recommend you all record down all the transaction amount that you did with your CC, so that you can check if the bill is correct or not.
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QUOTE(~~5ive~~ @ Nov 27 2006, 01:58 PM)
But then we should check it, isnt it?
even the usual CC we oso ought to check it, so i think no different.
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By the time that you do your checking, the money might be gone from your A/C. What if the CC company made a mistake in their computer and double billed you?? Stuff happened all the time.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Nov 28 2006, 02:48 AM)
By the time that you do your checking, the money might be gone from your A/C.  What if the CC company made a mistake in their computer and double billed you?? Stuff happened all the time.

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I think the percentage for this mistake happen is not high. Even they bill you wrongly, you can get back the money from deducting your next month bill. I don't think they will charge you twice and didn't pay back to you.
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QUOTE(alvinlim84 @ Nov 22 2006, 02:52 PM)
Yeah. I think the problem is here. tongue.gif
I don't have education load or car loan  smile.gif
The rooms in my area is around RM300-RM400 and I am living with my cousin. Trying to eat lesser now  tongue.gif
The calls are not related to my job but for my family and love one
Yeah. There was time when have to go to shopping mall restaurant or mamak which usually cost RM15-RM20 each visit. But I believe self-discipline very important in order to save money. I am following my own rules to cut food and phone cost now. Just see how much I can save later  tongue.gif
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whoa.. u pay RM400 for a room? blink.gif

i pay RM500 for a whole apt here..

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