i'm joining a tournament which is 4v4 in a 1 hour game...can u guys pls help me with which hero combo is the best for defence n offence?the game is normal pick.sentinel side using sentinel heroes onyl...same goes for scourge.need help fast.tournament next week...thanks

Wat version? 5.84c or 6.37b? Btw ppl tat join tournament usually veli familiar with hero combo ....a last-minute decision won't b able 2 help u much

v6.37
we have a few combos..but everyone is quarreling with wad combo to use.
we're training on saturday...so maybe if u can provide me with summore combo...we might stand a chance...coz there's 2 noob in my team..

list ur combo here, so we can help to choose?
btw, i thought which combo used is depend on opponent or u plan to use the same combo in every matches?

maiden,sand king luna n lich...4 oso buy blink....sand king ulti 1st...clear creep..den maiden blink ulti...damage them kao kao..den luna sapu them(no more creep) wif ulti..den lich use ulti for those who trying to run..

Drow/Venge mid lane
Omni Bottom
Tiny Top.

Omni must play support and push the game early.
Lv9-11 Push . Omni Repel, Venge swap stun. Drow silence/Slow. Int Hero = Food.

Or for good player. Maybe can try out Ogre/PA/CK/Enigma. Haha Orge Bloodlust PA/CK early game , they godlike with only SnY.

This post has been edited by Cyclone87: Nov 16 2006, 01:16 PM

wow.. this one sounds good.... if late game everyone got BKB already your team will be doomed!!!

unless luna goes for Battle/Attack type..

This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Nov 16 2006, 01:20 PM

muz play fast game lar...BKB 15 sec onli mah..use one of the hero lure them use bkb mai kao tim lo..others save ulti...

Watch filzzardo replay or wcg replay..

Sudgestion Pugna... Lich... Silencer... Qop..

True.. must play fast game... and BKB last for 10 secs only.. not 15 secs ..

it depends more on ur teamwork 1 lar..if ur team noob like shit..wat combo oso useless..

In tournement BKB really do huge effect . During smm practice, my team was using Tiny/VS/Drow/Omni/Cm and owning at the 1st 30minutes of the game. We beat score by 20+,but after 30minutes, their SK/Lich/QoP/Tide BKB out. Condition gone upside down. When clash , 5 hero die, till the last 60minutes keep on die even our drow got mkb/sny and tiny with Sny/hyper/bot .

it depends when u wan to finish the game...if u play fast game most properly u oledi win..when u own dun give them a chance..once they got bkb...ur winning rate will drop from 80% to 20 %

yup... i watch wcg replay most of it.... i wan watch filzzardo but cant find one >< they aim item is like Heart, Vanguard, Aegies, Bot, BKB, Linkin

I watch the Final KL tourney last year. and their earthshaker Bkb out when he lv9. It one of the most important item in tourney. But for Bnet where we always solo mission, i will perfer Sny/Mkb/Burize.

lol yea i'm sure the opposite team will stand there and let u kill

Rasta, Lich , Bane and Sand king

furion + phantom lancer + viper + naga siren
all went for mekasm and manta build!

optional = spider

Try this... from the champion of my university competition.
Sandking, Enigma, SA, LOA.

kenot pick like this like TS said...Lich&co from bad guys how to mix with Rasta&friends.

Btw if ur team got pro chen/rhasta/omni must pick them.then stunner.
For scourge pusher i think broodmother,leshrac,death prophet.

But If just wanna look cool pick all knight team la...

holyknight,omniknight,dragon knight,rogue knight...

This post has been edited by beetle_larvae: Nov 16 2006, 07:09 PM

juz giving my comment..if u dun like den ur problem..dude..

3 range and a game ender....2 range int and 1 is agi...something like this should already enough, both int press them early and give change for the agi and game ender to farm

there are things that u should know

how good is a hero in lane control, how well does he do in war (combo or together ) , what can he do in late game

all these have to be looked at.. ( BTW avoid putting a melee hero to solo )

hero that are good in lane control are

Viper , Warlock , LoA ,

since its a Scourge VS Sentinel

and its 4v4 means that two hero will solo meaning Scourge have better chance winning in lane
but beware of viper i dont think any hero in sentinel can 1 on 1 with viper even syllabear will get raped by viper 1 on 1

i think if the player have around the same personal skills scourge would have higher chance of winning ...

enigma is too easy to counter if he doesnt get BKB fast enough since an EUL can easily makes enigma useless ...

anyway i think a good scourge combo would be Warlock,Viper,QoP, and SK ( since its 4v4 so SK shouldt have problem getting blink dagger fast )

anyway i think if u get sentinel try avoid getting combo hero :/ most of the time opponent would take AOE heroes on scourge so just use some gay hero than can split push when the Scourge are together

if the sentinel take alot of int hero like enigma,rhasta,cm,zeus just get pugna lol btw the problem with sentinel is their AOE heroes have long cool downs , channelling ,and hard to aim

This post has been edited by Flizzardo: Nov 16 2006, 10:21 PM

nice combo...but 3 melee..quite hard to push starting...wad if other team mostly ranged?sure kena supress like mad...

i've tried ur chen,rhasta,omni n stunner combo....but i think...i'll take rhasta n prophet...if prophet lucky...trap 2 or 3 heroes...shaman ulti...opponent hero die...can push..this wad i tried today...

thumbs up for ur knights team...never tot of it...lolz

thanks for the combo advice...for scourge...pugna is a must...coz his wards is better than na sucking mana during gb...
u were sayin abt bkb...it's kinda hard to earn bkb so fast....coz everyone is denying everyone...xp n gold comes in slow...real slow...for the sk...kinda hard for him to earn...coz opponent all range...shoot a few times...then cast spell...he needa run home d....so cham.....it's true coz we just tried ur combo.....lolz

abt the gay heroes u mentioned....can u give some examples?a combo if can...

u should really consider about viper... viper can own any hero in 1 on 1 condition.. so put him solo a lane should be no problem . .. combo of viper? need i say more? poison arrow + ulti damn pain.... and remember to add poison arrow + stat 1st ... stat for more health and mana pool

This post has been edited by AiRBooM: Nov 17 2006, 10:37 AM

My fav =
Up lane = drow/sniper
mid lane= cW + cM
down lane= tiny

I dunno wads so good bout' this, but mostly 4 v 4 with my fren oso use this, usually win cuz my fren pro...haha...

if scourge=
up= viper
mid=sand.K+ naix
down=pA


This post has been edited by .:zaxiao:.: Nov 17 2006, 02:23 PM

sniper is no longer a good choice for soloing ever since his nerf on 6.38 (coudlt headshot deny , less agi , longer cd on lvl 16 assasinate)

tiny a melee to solo not a great tactic.....

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i dont think PA can farm...
a naix in tournament? lol i remember there was a team in kuantan who put naix solo in smm tournament lol...

well, i nvr play tournament b4....
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yalar, but if naix and pa can farm, ten very dangerous lorr, play neutral ???

ur throone wil be gg in 20-30minutes neutral wont help