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post Aug 25 2007, 09:28 AM

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Pressure to cut unit trust upfront fees

By DALJIT DHESI

PETALING JAYA: Pressure is mounting for unit trust upfront sales charges to be reduced as new players emerge.

The matter was also brought up by the Employees Provident Fund (EPF). In recent talks with the Federation of Malaysian Unit Trust Managers (FMUTM) and its members, EPF asked them to consider lowering the charges to facilitate investment in unit trusts.

Industry observers said with Tune Money and InterPacific Asset Management Sdn Bhd coming onstream, there was greater pressure to lower the upfront fees and this should bode well for the investing public.

It is also learnt that EPF, in the past two to three months, had proposed to FMUTM that the maximum sales charges for unit trust investment be capped at 3% as opposed to the average 5% to 6%.

Sources said FMUTM had appealed to the Finance Ministry, saying the EPF's proposed charges were too low and that the federation would consider lowering the charges gradually.

The dispute is expected to continue and the pressure is growing in every meeting between the EPF and the federation, according to an observer.

The latest player to join the unit trust league is InterPacific, which currently does not impose any upfront sales charges. Tune Money, meanwhile, plans to launch funds online with zero or minimal sales charges.

With the entrance of these players, competition is getting intense and fund houses will need to review their charges to ensure they are able to sustain the public's interest in investing with them, according to an industry observer.

By not imposing any upfront fees, a unit trust management company can fully invest their clients' money in the funds, they added.

Sources said many fund houses were not very keen on the EPF proposal to reduce the charges as it would affect their distributors' income, leading to lower sales volumes. At present, many of them sell funds via agents and banks (as third-party distributors).

It is estimated that 60% to 70% of unit trust management companies sell funds through agents and banks. As of May 31, there were 39 unit trust management companies with a total 462 approved funds.

An observer, however, said while the industry trends might lead to a gradual lowering of upfront fund charges, distributors could still succeed by growing their assets under management over the long term.

They could do this by being more productive and further elevating their capability to ensure long-term retention of customers, he added.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...52&sec=business
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post Aug 25 2007, 12:42 PM

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anyone know when they gonna announce dividend for PAIF?
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post Sep 8 2007, 02:16 PM

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Anyone can help me.I've opened an PISBD on 6/9/07. When will i get the account number? thanks 4 replying.
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post Sep 8 2007, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 8 2007, 03:23 PM)
Get back to your servicing agent or give a call to PM CS.
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QUOTE(siaokia @ Sep 8 2007, 03:36 PM)
Yup as David said.. the best solution is get back to your servicing agent or give a call to PM CS. Good luck  smile.gif
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Sep 8 2007, 04:49 PM)
Usually it takes a few working days...

sometimes it depends on the bank ur agent submit ur application to. I experience some bank clear the application i less than 3 days and some takes up to a week, i oso dunno y.

Best way like wat others said, check back with your agent. Coz, ur account might be created, but it takes some time for them to send the statement to you
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 8 2007, 07:30 PM)
They say 2 to 3 working weeks. You can expect it to come by 3 1/2 week

No point going to PM branch or your agent if it is < 2 weeks. They will not have. If you are lucky, maybe by 3rd week you will get your account number

Trust me, I've just opened 5 new accounts and is taking this long...  mad.gif
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post Sep 30 2007, 04:19 PM

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dear all,

I've been thinking of switching 18k unit of PAIF to PISBF (already reach my target, so want to lock profit). AFAIK, i will be charge RM25. Let say, after the switching i want to switch back the 18k unit from PISBF to PAIF, I will be charge RM25 rite? Is there any other fee? Still blur2.

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post Sep 30 2007, 06:03 PM

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QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Sep 30 2007, 05:34 PM)
Try switching to money market. Switching into it costs nothing. But switching back into bonds or equity charges u RM25
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 30 2007, 05:45 PM)
If you're going to park your money for a very short duration, money market fund will be better since no fee incurred.
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Thanks for the reply. I'm thinking to park for a long time (at least until another correction) and I don't have money market account. If after I park in Bond and want to switch back to equity, do I still need to pay the 6.5% service charge or just RM25?
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 30 2007, 06:23 PM)
PAIF -> PISBF = RM25
PISBF -> PAIF = No Charge

I've done this type of switching recently
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Meaning that, if I switch RM 5k worth of NAV from PAIF to PISBF i need to pay RM 25 and when I switch back RM 5k worth of NAV from PISBF to PAIF its free? Sorry coz asking so many question. Need to be clear in this.
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post Sep 30 2007, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 30 2007, 06:42 PM)
Yes, provided is the same loaded units
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same loaded unit = in term of amount of unit when switch

or

same loaded unit = in term of NAV value when switch?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 30 2007, 06:49 PM)
Loaded units mean units that has been charged for 6.5% service charge.

You may not able to switch in the exact amount since the price are different. You may left some loaded units in your bond fund. Let say, 5 or 10 units depending on the NAV.
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Sorry bro, not quite understand. rclxub.gif

So switching is in term of 'unit' and not NAV. Let say i switch 10k unit of PAIF (loaded unit worth RM5k NAV) into PISBF, then when i switch back to equity the MAX amount is RM5k worth of NAV of PISBF?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 30 2007, 08:07 PM)
Sorry for confusion ... let's forget about the number of units.

Just tell your agent to perform a switch of units worth RM 5k of NAV. They will do all the appropriate calculation for equivalent number of units.
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Yeah, I also think easier like this. Thanks for all the replies. notworthy.gif

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