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shikuzika
post Apr 14 2008, 02:27 PM

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Hye... i have some extra money in the bank which i don't want to use up and my sister, who has already invested in public mutual trust fund advised me to do the same. my friend who is working with CIMB wealth advisors advised me to invest in DALI. is this wise? any opinions welcomed and greatly appreciated notworthy.gif

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post Apr 30 2008, 12:30 PM

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icon_question.gif NEED HELP FROM ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT CIMB WEALTH ADVISORS icon_question.gif

I recently signed up for th DALI equity fund. I started with 10k. My confirmation statement has arrived, and here's what it stated:

CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY GROWTH FUND
Gross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 1.0398 / Units Credited 4,525.14 / Balance of Units 4,515.14


CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY THEME FUND
Gross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 0.2549 / Units Credited 18,418.36 / Balance of Units 18,418.36



How come in the Charges (%) it says 0.00 but in RM it states 305.16???
What is the difference between growth fund and theme fund?
I only agreed to purchase the RM0.2549 units. Why did my (what do I call the agent?) signed me up for two separate funds???
Is there any negative or positive effects to all this? Help!!! icon_question.gif icon_question.gif icon_question.gif

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post Apr 30 2008, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2008, 01:57 PM)
Only 2 reasons, either you send the wrong message to your agent, or agent did it without your permission (in other word being conned or the agent trying to be clever).

If you stated you want to buy ABC fund then they cannot buy ABCD fund for you. As simple as that as it is your money, you decide whatever you want.

Theme and Growth is the name of the fund, which is separated and individual. You need to look at their propspectus to look for the differentiate. May be one is more aggressive, one is more conservative, I don't know about it since didn't do the research on it nor look at it before.
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being conned or the agent trying to be clever - This is exactly what I thought.
And it was all very unprofessional. They even spelled my name wrong!!! I looked at the website, still no clear explanations between the two funds. I think I'm going to call the care line and find out what's happening... Haih, these people, really taking advantage of amateurs like me...
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QUOTE(b00n @ Apr 30 2008, 02:08 PM)
Usually growth fund is more aggressive because it invest in companies that are "growing". i.e. either new listed companies or those that had plans for expansion (new projects etc...).
Theme fund however not sure.

Anyway, phone up your agent and ask for his/her explanation on the statement; and why this 2 categories?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2008, 02:10 PM)
Usually for new fund, there is a cooling off period that you can withdraw if you change your mind ie. cancel your purchased.
I don't know much about the cooling off precedure, never done it before. So better ask your agent. I don't think he/she wants to help you on this either. As it will mean no sales for him/her.
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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:19 PM)
The best thing is to get the clarification from your agent. If it is true that the agent made the mistake/buy other funds without your permission, you can file a complaint to CIMB or directly to the FMUTM.
For cooling off period...usually it is only available to those 1st time investor in that particular investment bank/company. But there is certain day for you to exercise this right...

for example, for PMutual, it is 6 business days from the day of submission...if still within this 6-days, you can ask for full refund without charges....if after the 6-days, u cannot exercise this right & will have to sell-off your units & lose out in the service charged paid as well as lost incurred through daily trading that affects the price.

for CIMB i'm not too sure wat is their cooling-period, so u might wan to check it out
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Already called the hotline, they too asked me to speak to my agent. But they also explained that 'dividing' is a common practice in order to protect from any loss. So I called my agent and he explained pretty much the same thing to me. I have already scolded him and told him to explain to me if any changes were to be made in the future and to fix my name!!! vmad.gif Haih... I'm still sticking with the investment anyway as I am quite confident with CIMB.

And thanx for all the feedback rclxms.gif
shikuzika
post May 1 2008, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Apr 30 2008, 02:34 PM)
They cannot do it like that, it is violating the rules big times, agents cannot be try to clever. If the client wants ABC, UT company or agent cannot give ABC and ABCD.
Otherwise, next time, they can simply put your money elsewhere. It is serious stuff, don't take it lightly. It is scary to hear also. Your money being contolled by others without your knowledge and consent. Next time, then park it to where also don't know.

You can complain to BNM or FMUTM.

Hope your problem fixed and if can kind to share with us, why it is done in this way.


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QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Apr 30 2008, 02:38 PM)
Yes...Cherroy is totally right on this.

As the investor still holds the right to determine how they wan their $$ to be invested.
The role of an agent is as an advisor to provide information & recommendation on the best way to manage the investor money. But the investor will stills be the one to do the decision & agent have no right to manage the investor's $$ without their consent & knowledge.
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QUOTE(Jordy @ Apr 30 2008, 04:16 PM)
Well, I'm not sure if this is the case, but it is just my opinion by reading your post.
It could be that your agent "misinterpreted" what you said, because you mentioned "DALI equity fund", without specifying if it's Growth or Theme fund. Your agent is unprofessional because he should have asked for clarification.
Actually, cooling-off period is for all fund (new and existing), but only applicable to first-time investors in the company.
Since shikuzika has received the statement, it should have been more than 6 business days, which is the usual timeframe for cooling-off.
So, there is no choice now but to stick with it and ride the flow smile.gif
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Well, the lady who answered my call at the customer care hotline didn't say anything about complaining. Plus my agent is my friend so I really can't complain. But I have really told her off and told her that if it happens again, I'm switching to another agent for future investments and will advice against her to my friends who are also interested in investing. I doubt she misinterpreted what I said, since she only promoted the theme fund to me in the first place. She said nothing about the growth fund.

So finally after getting two other opinions, from another friend and the hotline lady, I decided to stick with the two separate funds. I signed up on the 15th, my transaction date is the 21st, the statement was dated 24th April, but only reached me on the 30th sad.gif This is really shabby for a company which claims to be the top investment plan in Malaysia... But maybe it's my agent again... Haihhh...



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