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post Nov 17 2006, 03:32 AM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 16 2006, 05:18 PM)
PB Mutual always got people inside shopping center. Just approach one of them.
You can also call their office, they will assign someone to meet you too, I think.
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Yup... or just go to any Public Mutual branch and ask them, they will assign an agent for you.
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post Nov 19 2006, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(flattyre @ Nov 17 2006, 02:52 PM)
Investments 101...

The Higher The Risk... The Higher The Returns...

If you find anything that works opposite to this ppls inform me...

Whole world luking for this...

Please also be careful of the Fine Prints..

"Past Performance is NOT an indicator of FUTURE PERFORMANCE"..

Agents always sell on PAST... doesn't mean past it does well means that FUTURE it will...

Know what ur getting into...

My 2 cents...
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Yeah i agree with you, some agents always sell on Past; even me. But how could you tell that certain fund really perform and will give higher returns in the future without looking back on its past records and its performance?

The Past Performance just a reference on how well the funds goes thru the market conditions at that particular time. Eventho we cannot take Past Performance as an indicator of Future Performance; as a unit trust consultant we are professionally trained on how to minimize all the risks thru diversification of your portfolio/investment and do some proper switching method.

With this past records performance, its also an advantage to investors to choose where should they put their money to invest in and expand their wealth.


my 2 cents,
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post Nov 19 2006, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(yushin @ Nov 16 2006, 10:56 AM)
I currently invested in 2 public mutual funds.
PDSF - Medium risk
PGSF - High risk

Not much movement in PGSF these days. haih

Every month I put some money into them using standing order. Just look at them as long term saving smile.gif

Gonna get a bond fund from them later. Just incase equity market turn bad so I could shift the money away.

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bro, why dont u ask your unit trust consultant or agent to switch all your equity funds to bond fund. Currently the composite index is very high lorh.. better park your investment in bond fund for awhile until the CI going down abit. When the CI down, the price of bond will increase. It quite risky to put ur money in equity for these moment.

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post Nov 19 2006, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 19 2006, 10:26 AM)
I'm not sure about the percentage you are giving.

When you say 12% for 3 years, isn't it better to put in FD? FD gives 4% per annum, that's 12% for 3 years. It's the same, so why put in Mutual Fund?
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Some information link about Public Mutual fund performance and Total Returns
http://www.publicmutual.com.my/application...erformance.aspx

QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 19 2006, 10:34 AM)
When they said want to increase fund size, is it good or bad news? How it will affect the current fund holder?
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When they said, they want to increase fund size actually its a good news, Normally that fund potentially can give higher returns to the investors and at the same time can attract more new investors to invest. As the fund size increase, it also can minimized the assets iquidity risks involved.

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post Nov 19 2006, 11:45 PM

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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Nov 19 2006, 10:51 PM)
nowadays alot of unit trust customer convert into capital guaranteed investment.

most of them from rural are changing dramatically into those capital guaranteed stuff.  sweat.gif

I always heard they say 'unit trust cannot be trusted 1 ~'  shocking.gif
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dont just listen without do any research or smthing... if unit trust cannot be trusted 1, why unit trust is approved by the government and regulate by the Securities Commision (SC) & Federation of Malaysian Unit Trust Managers (FMUTM)?

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post Nov 22 2006, 06:25 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Nov 22 2006, 03:34 PM)
Sorry mate, was busy doing some calculation last 2 days ago. That is just a rough figure... and if I said, unit trust/mutual fund for sure making money. and like sky high margin. I might be in troubles later. sweat.gif

Let's see one example here, for studying purposes only. While data collected are real time. And it's really that price at that moment. You could check from Share Website for genuinity... if you interested.

PB ASIA EQUITY FUND as at 22th Nov 2006 
Initial Unit Price as at 5th July 2006 0.2500 RM
Amount invested 12,000.00 RM
Free bonus units 480.00 Units
No.of Units held i.e (Amount/Initial Unit Price)+Free units, 48,480.00 Units in total.
 
Current unit selling price 0.2811 RM
Current Total value 13,627.73 RM
Value increased as at now 1,627.73 RM

As you can see above... it yield at about 13.56% from July 2006 to Nov 2006, in lesser than 6 month time. Personally, I like Unit Trust much more Shares... Lesser headaches. If mate the person above... will you sell it?! but I think it's better to keep loh. A long term investment... keep it for 1 or 2 years.  biggrin.gif
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Some additional info - current fund returns within 6 months alrdy covered the 6.5% service charged and the investment starting to generate profits. But then why ppl still complaining about high s/charge imposed whereas they earns lot more than that.

Better keep the investment at least 3 years, cuz sometimes the fund cannot really perform within that 1-2 yrs time.
Just a reminder - not all unit trust funds could give u that higher returns and some can give u loses, so as an advice; you must know where should you put your money with cuz in U.Trust, its all about investment and risks.

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post Nov 24 2006, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(lifeless_creature @ Nov 23 2006, 09:07 PM)
sorry, newbie here, 15% here u mean gross return? or nett return(deducted the service charge) ??
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we cannot give exact return like 15% perannum, normally we take average of 10% return per yr. but with Public Mutual we got funds which can give you more than 12% peryr.


PUBLIC MUTUAL FUND PERFORMANCE FROM 28 May, 2003 To 13 October, 2006 (NET PROFIT)
FUND 1 - PUBLIC ITTIKAL FUND (65.80%)
FUND 2 - PUBLIC EQUITY FUND (62.35%)
FUND 3 - PUBLIC SMALL CAP FUND (58.15%)
FUND 4 - PUBLIC ISLAMIC EQUITY FUND (52.32%)
FUND 5 - PUBLIC GROWTH FUND (51.65%)

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post Nov 26 2006, 03:58 AM

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QUOTE(leekk8 @ Nov 26 2006, 12:08 AM)
Do you mean that we should not invest in mutual funds every month? I think the agents always recommend us to do this, can't really remember the name, something like Cost Averaging something....It is initial investment some amount, then every month put in same amount of money to the funds.

Can anybody discuss about the pros and cons of this strategy.
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Unit trust its all about units.

Fluctuating Market
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Average unit Cost for Unitholder A - RM6.40 (RM32000 / 5000)
Average unit Cost for Unitholder B - RM4.72 (RM30000 / 6350) ->DCA

pros
1. solve timing problem (when is the right time to invest - lumpsump investment)
2. earn more units at lower price
3. average cost of investment wil be lower in the long run, in order to maximise its benefits

cons
1.dollar cost averaging concept helps (but does not guarantee) an investor obtain favourable long-term investment results where the trend in unit prices is upwards. (unit price keep on increasing la never come down or does not fluctuate)

The rationale for investing in this way is that it is dificult, if not impossible, to invest at the bottom of the market, and most investors (particularly small investors) are likely to be better off investing on a regular basis throughout all stages of a market cycle rather than investing all their capital at one time.

By using the concept, it is said that investors can turn fluctuating prices to their advantage; especially if prices are moving down, they can purchase more units and reduce the average cost of their entire investment portfolio. By buying more units when prices are low and fewer when they are high, investors give themselves an advantage over other investors who try to time their investment decision - and get it wrong!

GIven that most investors in a UTS invest for the long term, the concept of dollar cost averaging works well - although there are no guarantees of investment performance! Its real value lies in a commitment to regular investment, irrespective fo market fluctuations. It avoids the need to decide to invest when the market appears to be too high, or to be hitting new lows. Investors buy more units at market lows when fear is greatest. As the market recovers, such purchases will prove timely.


my 1% of u.trust knowledge.... if you got more.. mind to share with us.

cheers
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post Dec 2 2006, 12:42 AM

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bottom line is PM is the best theheheheh.. but if u like to invest with other unit trust company i would suggest u go with MAA
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post Jan 3 2007, 01:09 AM

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doesnt matter u invest using dca or lump sump, its all the matter of market condition, and dun simply get panic when the market not really good; its just a matter of time.
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post Feb 15 2007, 04:43 PM

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today KLCI - 1245.64... CNY is coming.. so wat u guys think about KLCI after CNY.. still going on bull run or wat?
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post Feb 22 2007, 03:34 AM

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source - berita harian 20 feb

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Capai 1,350 mata - PM -- Indeks Komposit pasaran saham mampu melonjak jika rakyat terus gigih
Oleh Rozilan Salleh

PULAU PINANG 19 Feb. - Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi berkata, Indeks Komposit pasaran saham yang semakin pulih ketika ini, dijangka mampu melonjak melepasi 1,350 mata jika rakyat terus menunjukkan sokongan dan berusaha gigih memajukan ekonomi negara.

Menurut Perdana Menteri, pasaran saham negara semakin pulih dan mencatatkan angka tertinggi dalam masa sembilan tahun, bakal mencipta sejarah sebagai paras tertinggi dalam pasaran saham negara jika mampu mencecah 1,350 mata.

''Nampaknya pasaran saham kita sudah mula pulih dan ini tertinggi dalam tempoh sembilan tahun, jika mampu mencapai lebih daripada 1,350 mata, maka ini adalah satu indeks kita yang terbaik dalam sejarah.

''Jadi sekarang terpulang kepada anda semua (untuk bekerja lebih gigih)," katanya ketika berucap pada majlis rumah terbuka Tahun Baru Cina anjuran Dewan Perhimpunan Cina Pulau Pinang, di sini hari ini.

Rumah terbuka itu dihadiri oleh Yang Dipertua Negeri, Tun Abdul Rahman Abbas dan isteri, Toh Puan Majimor Shariff.

Indeks Komposit pernah mencecah 1,262 mata dan ditutup 1,258 mata Jumaat lepas.

Menurut Abdullah, pasaran saham yang semakin pulih itu membuktikan keyakinan pelabur asing dan domestik terhadap ekonomi negara yang semakin berkembang.

Katanya, kemampuan negara mencatat rekod dagangan terbesar tahun lepas yang mencecah lebih satu trilion ringgit, adalah sesuatu yang positif bagi pasaran, manakala rizab negara juga semakin bertambah.

Selain itu, ujarnya, perkembangan ekonomi negara itu juga dapat dilihat berdasarkan kemampuan kerajaan menurunkan defisit negara daripada 5.3 peratus kepada 3.5, manakala kadar inflasi terus dikawal dan pada masa yang sama, semakin banyak peluang pekerjaan ditawarkan.

Perdana Menteri juga berkata, negara akan berada dalam kesukaran sekiranya ekonomi tidak diuruskan dengan bijak.

Sehubungan itu, katanya, semua pihak seharusnya bijak menguruskan ekonomi masing-masing memandangkan kejayaan negara tidak boleh dicapai sekiranya dilakukan secara berseorangan.

''Kita tidak mahu ada pihak yang tidak memberi sumbangan kepada kejayaan ekonomi negara tetapi hanya membuat bising jika mengalami kesusahan," katanya.

Beliau memberi contoh bagaimana sukarnya berdepan dengan kenaikan harga minyak yang tidak dapat dielakkan sehingga menimbulkan masalah kepada rakyat.

''Isu kenaikan harga minyak memanglah tidak dapat dielakkan, tiada orang yang senang dengan kenaikan harga minyak tetapi apa yang lebih penting ialah kita harus bijak mengurus ekonomi," jelasnya.

Dalam pada itu, Abdullah sekali lagi meminta rakyat memberi kerjasama kepadanya untuk memajukan negara ini dengan berkata, "saya bekerja untuk anda dan anda bekerja dengan saya."

Katanya, terdapat pihak yang mempertitikaikan projek kerajaan tanpa mengambil kira terdapat projek yang dirancang kerajaan sebenarnya disiapkan secara berperingkat dan mengambil masa bertahun.

Menurutnya, rakyat harus menghargai kejayaan yang dicapai dan memahami usaha kerajaan selama 50 tahun untuk membina negara.

''Kita kena sederhana dan timbang rasa, sikap toleransi dan jangan minta lebih-lebih (daripada kerajaan) kita mesti faham, negara yang kita hendak bina... nak bagi baik susah dan rosak senang... dah 50 tahun merdeka kita hidup dalam aman dan selamat,'' ujarnya.


pak lah give somehint our KLCI might going till 1350.. so wat u guys think?? whistling.gif

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post Apr 10 2007, 02:59 PM

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KLCI touches 1,300

By IZWAN IDRIS

PETALING JAYA: The KL Composite Index (KLCI) took a stab at the 1,300-point level for the first time in 13 years, as buying interest on the local bourse extended for the fifth straight day.

The benchmark index gained 19.44 points, or 1.5%, to 1,298.36 - its highest since Jan 5, 1994. The KLCI hit an intra-day high of 1,300.94 points yesterday.

Shares in Genting Bhd led the gainers, closing RM1.75 higher at a record RM44, ahead of its one-to-five share split ex date tomorrow.

Plantation counters IOI Corp Bhd and Kuala Lumpur Kepong Bhd were also traded to new highs after crude palm oil futures on Bursa Malaysia Derivatives climbed to a fresh eight-year peak.

A total of 763 stocks advanced against 208 decliners, while 228 counters were unchanged.

"The temptation to take profit is high,'' a fund manager said.

The KLCI has risen 17% over the past month and recovered fully from the six-day plunge that ended on March 5.

The index, which has gone up 18.4% since January, is currently the region's best-performing benchmark behind China and Vietnam's main stock market measures year-to-date.

But the KLCI's sustained rise in recent weeks failed to attract a larger segment of the market, particularly retail investors.

Total daily trades on the local bourse dwindled to a low of 1.4 billion shares last Friday, but yesterday's climb lifted the volume to 2.1 billion.

In comparison, market turnover hit a record 4.78 billion shares on Feb 22. A day later, the KLCI hit its previous 13-year peak of 1,283 points.

According to a local brokerage, the local market is overdue for a "healthy" correction, pointing out that the KLCI's major technical indicators were currently "overbought".

"We still need more feel-good catalysts to reinforce the rally's buying interest,'' the brokerage said in its weekly market outlook report yesterday.

Elsewhere in the region, shares on Asian markets that were opened for trading yesterday saw higher closings, expect in Thailand.

The markets in Hong Kong, the Philippines, Australia and New Zealand were closed for holiday.

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today's KLCI -
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post Apr 12 2007, 06:05 PM

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actually both method are good. first method; condition no.1 its like you do asset allocation in your unit trust investment acquiring few funds to generate money for you; not just too rely on 1-2 funds. And also normally any new funds launch, it will come with extra additional free units.

second method; condition no.2 - IF fund A, B, and C performance are really good. Just topup ur investment to get more units. But make sure you buy at the low price.

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post Apr 17 2007, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(sewerside @ Apr 14 2007, 01:49 PM)
hi pidah, i would to ask, if in the case of your opinion for second method; condition no. 2, whereas A,B and C performances are really good and keep going up, i just don't know when's the right time to top up? wait for it to drop? or top up immediately when it's speculated to be going even higher soon?
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when the KLCI drop or when it do the correction. i would not recommend you to top-up just based on the speculation unless it come out with a strong backup/reason. And also feel free to read more about our market condition, so at least you know what to do with your investment and achive your financial goal.







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post Jun 25 2007, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Jun 25 2007, 03:18 PM)
For fund investment in Malaysia,

100% of ROI for 5 to 7 years as mentioned by cherroy?! Then I agree, but I dun know which fund got such performance?!  rclxub.gif

100% of ROI for 1 year?! Brother, that is NONE. wink.gif
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100% of ROI for 1 yr got LOH.... Cahaya Mata Sarawak (CMS TRUST MGT BHD)

1. CMS Islamic Fund - 122.05% (22/06/2006 - 22/06/2007)

2. CMS Premier Fund - 95.26% (22/06/2006 - 22/06/2007)

eventho the return is awesomely high.. im still pretty doubt about the asset preservation.. but if you r a risk taker.. why not give a shot..

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