If tomorrow market still red, topup some more before 4pm
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Aug 2 2007, 08:41 PM
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Managed to topup PRSF (0.6998) at lower price today
If tomorrow market still red, topup some more before 4pm |
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Aug 4 2007, 03:21 PM
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Aug 5 2007, 06:25 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 11:25 AM
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Time to switch my bond into equity?
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Aug 6 2007, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 6 2007, 05:37 PM) Now we can see the benefit of UT? No? 1) I am actually happy today cause I can topup my account to get more units 2) If the drop continues, I wouldn't be afraid cause this is meant for long term investment 3) If it drops further, I will switch my UT Bond to UT Equity fund 4) The UT fund is diversified and hence the impact compared to direct investment is lower QUOTE(shih @ Aug 6 2007, 05:45 PM) The main benefits of UT is diversification. 3. Cause I don't know when it is lowest so I will switch day by day. Not right?1. I wanted to top up but no bullets already. 2. I am not going for long term, but I am not afraid also, lose some unrealized profit. 3. If it drops further, no point switch to equity fund. Switch at the right time when it is climbing up, not going down. 4. Comparisonly, the UTs will lose slower than stocks if market goes down. Added on August 6, 2007, 5:46 pmWe should be talking about stocks here. Paiseh. |
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Aug 6 2007, 05:56 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 6 2007, 06:11 PM) You are correct that we hardly can predict. Switch day by day will cause you lose unnecessary switching fee, unless you are mutual gold. Rather than Savings / FD, I used to park my investment funds in PEBF (yes i know it has some equities, no problem with it), and since PEBF is closed, I have to choose alternative which my agent told me PIEBF is a good onePIEBF, another hybrid. I think I still have a small amount in PEBF. It is good to take this when the market is volatile also but we are not totally immuned since PIEBF will hold some equities also. |
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Aug 6 2007, 08:35 PM
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![]() I thought I would see all red today, but seems not Anyway, today's PRSF is at 0.6780 which is the same price as 17/04/2007 Ironically, I switch all my units for PRSF (0.6780) to PEBF and today I topup at this price |
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Aug 6 2007, 08:40 PM
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Aug 6 2007, 08:48 PM
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Where can I find info on Public Mutual funds like:
1) Year End 2) Highest Record 3) Lowest Record 4) Which year have bonus/dividend Can't seem to find these in their official site |
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Aug 7 2007, 09:16 AM
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QUOTE(athlon 11 @ Aug 7 2007, 12:09 AM) a lot forumer here plan to increase their top up money in the recent two weeks Truefor those conservative investor,can consider top up as your usual amount. For me, I topup bit by bit to test water, and when I feel it is moving upward then will make a bigger topup |
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Aug 7 2007, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 7 2007, 10:09 AM) You are correct to test the water but bigger top up would not be a wise move. Probably you increase your average cost per unit. Probably the market would not be up for so long. That is why they say trading has to do a bit with gamblingIt is very difficult to TIME the market, need some luck most of the time. |
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Aug 7 2007, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(ejleemy @ Aug 7 2007, 10:51 AM) You guys should make a discipline to set a target range to top up as well...I will only top up when the price fell 8-10% more than my latest entry NAV. Anything less I don't bother. How often will the price fall 8-10%?Take PCSF for ex, I did my research and didnt enter when it first launched. Now, I think it's getting more and more attractive. But I still set my entry price to be 0.215. If it doesnt go below that, forget it. Take example 2006 and 2007? |
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Aug 8 2007, 09:37 AM
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I have an equity fund and were to switch to bond, and later on when I switch back from bond to equity
Will I be charged for the 5% to 7% again? |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:48 AM
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QUOTE(shih @ Aug 8 2007, 10:45 AM) I check the prospectus already. Confirm NO addtional SERVICE CHARGE if you were charge 6.5% once. Just have to pay the switching fee. When you paid 6.5% for your units, it is called 'Loaded Unita'. No extra 6.5% charge again. If I were to buy Bond then switch to Equity, I will loose 0.25% + 6.5%For switching from bond/money market fund, you pat 0.25% only and it is called 'Low-Loaded Units'. So, if you switch to equity, you need to pay 6.5%. You need to be charged 6.5% ONCE only if you are playing switching to and from equity fund, including the initial service charge. Plus whatever switching fee. So, my theory of parking my money in Bond and do switching is not so effective huh? |
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Aug 8 2007, 10:59 AM
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I've been topping up PRSF these few days. Every topup is getting lower and lower
02/08/2007 (lower) 03/08/2007 (lower) 06/08/2007 (lower) 08/08/2007 (hope is lower today) I wonder how long the current market will go like this. I've bullets for 5 more shots |
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Aug 8 2007, 03:03 PM
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Today seems green, thought it will still go red for a few more days
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Aug 8 2007, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(ejleemy @ Aug 8 2007, 03:18 PM) Can you explain more:How do you define fund switching for mid to long term? How do you define when is the best time to switch fund? From Equity -> Bond? From Bond -> Equity? |
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Aug 8 2007, 04:36 PM
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Suddenly thought of this question,
An older fund might cost X amount and sound expensive. A new fund will cost X amount and is cheaper Is there actually any difference? Old Fund buy X amount of Stock New Fund buy X amount of Stock When economy drops, both also drops. Vice versa So wouldn't it be better to choose older fund where we can already see the past performance? |
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Aug 8 2007, 06:49 PM
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QUOTE(David83 @ Aug 8 2007, 05:51 PM) HLG Unit Trust says latest fund is timely I have not tried other UT other than PMKUALA LUMPUR: HLG Unit Trust Bhd is confident its latest fund - HLG Asia-Pacific Property Income Plus Fund - will perform well given the rapidly growing demand in the for Asia-Pacific property sector. "The timing is excellent and this fund has been structured to capitalise on the thriving property sector in this region," HLG Asset Management Sdn Bhd executive director and chief executive officer Richard Lin told reporters at the launch of the new fund in Wisma Hong Leong on Wednesday. Lin said that this fund would primarily invest into fixed income securities to seek regular income and stability of capital. "Also it attempts to gain long-term capital growth by investing into derivatives or options that offers exposure to Real Estate Investment Trusts and property related equity securities from the region. "The stock market has good prospects for the next twelve months due to the strong underlying economy and the current volatility is due to external disturbances," said Lin. He added that rising rental incomes and lack of supply in countries like Singapore and Hong Kong would contribute to the overall performance of the fund. Lin said that the recently launched HLG Asia-Pacific Infrastructure Fund was a tremendous success. Its initial fund size of 400 million units was fully subscribed within six working days. "HLG subsequently increased its fund size thrice to a total of 1.1 billion units. "HLG's has a total fund fund size of RM2.31bil as at Jul 31," he said. HLG Asia-Pacific Property Income Plus Fund has a total approved fund size of 600 million units priced at 50 sen per unit during the initial offer period from Aug 8 to Aug 28. Minimum initial investment is RM1000 while minimum additional investment is RM100. This fund is distributed through HLG's Unit Trust Bhd's agency force, Hong Leong Bank Bhd, Standard Charterd Bank Malaysia Bhd and ABN Amro Bank Bhd. URL: http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...07&sec=business Is this really good? Do you guys buy other UT funds from other companies? This post has been edited by dzi921: Aug 8 2007, 06:50 PM |
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