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victor_hoh
post Feb 2 2007, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(wufei @ Jan 26 2007, 09:36 PM)
yah pleasae share, i cant find a fund <than 5% service charge except bond fund..,,,,

Whats wrong with PGSF, not performing!!!!
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I dun mind if it is not performing now, as I am doing the dollar-cost-averaging method. So it is actually GOOD that the price dip a little, as long as in the long run the trend is upward.
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post Feb 2 2007, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(victor_hoh @ Feb 2 2007, 11:30 AM)
I dun mind if it is not performing now, as I am doing the dollar-cost-averaging method. So it is actually GOOD that the price dip a little, as long as in the long run the trend is upward.
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There's good side as you acquire more units now since the price is relatively low. When it shoots upware later, you'll earn more provided that you have sufficently large units when it's low and the fund does perform in a upward trend.
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post Feb 2 2007, 12:53 PM

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Actually people flocked into global fund because KLSE is one of the major underperform bourse compared others for the past 3-4 years time. KLSE only play some catch up since the end of last year so there is no surprise if it can outpeform others which already rise so much like STI for the past few years. It is just last year KLSE manage to outperforms so there is not much to be happy of.

If for index like to like, STI, Hang Seng, even Seoul Comp, all of them has been rising at it life time high while KLSE is still 100+ than its previous peak.


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post Feb 2 2007, 02:51 PM

shhhhhhhhh come i tell you something hehe
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QUOTE(repusez @ Feb 2 2007, 10:29 AM)
here's your proof. this is taken from the star

"Funds for Malaysian market outperform those overseas

IN the last year or so, small investors fled in droves into global or regional Asian funds launched by unit trust companies here. 

The investors felt, as the saying goes, the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence.

The companies read the mood of retail investors well, and almost all of the unit trusts launched during this period carried the mandate to invest overseas. 

More than that, there was heavy selling by investors of their units in Malaysian equity funds. As a result, some of these funds shrank as much as 30% last year in terms of units issued. 

The irony of these decisions is that, as it turned out, the funds for the Malaysian stock market far outperformed those that went overseas. The top two Malaysia funds increased their unit value by over 50% last year compared with above 20% for global funds managed here. 

In addition, each of the top 10 Malaysian funds rose by more than 30% in unit value last year - an outstanding achievement - compared with a performance range of 23.5% to 5.8% among the top 10 global funds, according to Standard & Poor's (S&P) data published in BizWeek.

One reason for this divergence in performance could be the strength of the Malaysian market as a laggard in the region, just as local retail investors "locked in" their initial gains. 

Furthermore, the local fund managers may be relatively inexperienced in investing regionally or globally. 

That could, of course, change this year or in other years, but so far this year, Malaysia's performance continued. 

In the four weeks this month, the Kuala Lumpur Composite Index outperformed its peer indices in Thailand, Singapore, Indonesia, India, Taiwan and South Korea. 

In a way, naturally Bursa Malaysia Bhd, the stock, rose about 30% this month and was the world's best performing stock exchange, according to a Bloomberg article. 

The grass may be quite green on the home ground, too. Retail investors should consider investing in the local market and pick unit trust companies that have shown some consistency in performance in recent years"

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...34&sec=business
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local funds really beat the crap out of foreign 1 laugh.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 02:26 PM

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Not trying to sell anything here, but for those of you who are already in Public Mutual. I guess, you guys may want to consider during this time of bull run, there is no point parking your investment in balanced fund or global fund. Problem with global or regional fund is, rise in one market is negated by a fall in another market.

For me its either being just going into 1 market or withdraw into a Bond fund. So, you guys may want to check out for the past 12 months the most performing fund. I did a little survey and it tells me 2 funds that are doing well and I guess we should invest our limited resources into the most efficient fund and not settle for one that is giving 2% or 3% less than the best.. right?
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post Feb 7 2007, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Grengo01 @ Feb 7 2007, 02:26 PM)
Not trying to sell anything here, but for those of you who are already in Public Mutual. I guess, you guys may want to consider during this time of bull run, there is no point parking your investment in balanced fund or global fund. Problem with global or regional fund is, rise in one market is negated by a fall in another market.

For me its either being just going into 1 market or withdraw into a Bond fund. So, you guys may want to check out for the past 12 months the most performing fund. I did a little survey and it tells me 2 funds that are doing well and I guess we should invest our limited resources into the most efficient fund and not settle for one that is giving 2% or 3% less than the best.. right?
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you mean lock you returns in Bond fund for the moment? thats what many agents are advising at the moment
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post Feb 7 2007, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Feb 7 2007, 08:48 PM)
you mean lock you returns in Bond fund for the moment? thats what many agents are advising at the moment

If me not mistaken, he is trying to say that,... it's now the time to switch to Equity Fund or invest in Equity new(newly launched one if any?) funds. Based on current condition...

This is the main advantages of Funding. And when suddenly a big bear pops up. Shares is kinda difficult to withdraw(Not saying Share no good, but the are chances of people might panic by that time. If not panic, any condition seems no problematic also.


Ps: talk is easier than done...

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post Feb 7 2007, 11:23 PM

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Personally think that now it is not quite suit to switch to equity fund, a bit too late. Stock market already had a nice run up, although some said there is still some room for upside but surely not much to go at least for the short term period.
Also, bond has not doing quite good for the past 2-3 years due to series of interest rate hike so not much gain that can be locked upon.

Personally think that currently should reduce equity exposure and wait for new opportunities.
Anyway , it is just personal opinion.
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post Feb 8 2007, 06:55 AM

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Get ready to switch to Bond Fund in order to capture the earned profit due to the high peak rush on KLCI. After CNY, I have a feeling that it'll slide downward.
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post Feb 8 2007, 10:35 AM

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Well,.. for me... I am like reading too many good news recently. Current situations are,

-US economy might slowing down, US currency not performing that makes Asia market becoming more attractive(China got some credits here).
-CNY is coming soon
-The 9th (dun know what plan?) That pushing behind?
-By the year 2008, pilihanraya?

So,... a bit hard to asked people not to dream of something too pretty...
Current doubt is, the China Share market.

*just personal opinion*

This post has been edited by edifgrto: Feb 8 2007, 10:38 AM
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post Feb 8 2007, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ Feb 7 2007, 08:48 PM)
you mean lock you returns in Bond fund for the moment? thats what many agents are advising at the moment
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heck.. I take more risk than switching now.. smile.gif I think traditionally for the past 3-4 years there is a bull run right after CNY which may last for 3-4 weeks.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 7 2007, 11:23 PM)
Personally think that now it is not quite suit to switch to equity fund, a bit too late. Stock market already had a nice run up, although some said there is still some room for upside but surely not much to go at least for the short term period.
Also, bond has not doing quite good for the past 2-3 years due to series of interest rate hike so not much gain that can be locked upon.

Personally think that currently should reduce equity exposure and wait for new opportunities.
Anyway , it is just personal opinion.
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Based on my statement above, I still think there is still room to switch to performing equity fund for at least another 30 days before switching to BOND fund. Anyway, I think for those investing with EPF's funds should not complain about anything. With EPF giving only 5.15% my PAGF has already given me 14% in 2.5 months! So it was damn good decision, wish I can withdraw the whole lump into UT, then I dont have to moan and groan about my underperforming EPF.


Added on February 8, 2007, 5:45 pm
QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 8 2007, 10:35 AM)
Well,.. for me... I am like reading too many good news recently. Current situations are,

-US economy might slowing down, US currency not performing that makes Asia market becoming more attractive(China got some credits here).
-CNY is coming soon
-The 9th (dun know what plan?) That pushing behind?
-By the year 2008, pilihanraya?

So,... a bit hard to asked people not to dream of something too pretty...
Current doubt is, the China Share market.

*just personal opinion*
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edit, in a bull run market every piece of news is good news. every indication before a suspension will cause the counter to rise to dizzying heights. but come bear market, no news is GOOD NEWS... smile.gif cheers.

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mhui
post Feb 9 2007, 05:00 PM

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i am just blur.mean is still ok to buy the pb far east fund?

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post Feb 9 2007, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(mhui @ Feb 9 2007, 05:00 PM)
i am just blur.mean is still ok to buy the pb far east fund?

Hi mhui,


Public got
EQUITY FUND
    *Public Far-East Select Fund
    *Public Far-East Dividend Fund (new)
BALANCED FUND(Some people named it as Mixed Asset Fund?)
    *Public Far-East Balanced Fund (new)
The one you named as PB Far East fund is not available yet... As it would be under PB SERIES OF FUNDS category already. wink.gif

Actually, no one know how long the market would be good? Like today, Friday,... the market is doh.gif Then, by Monday,... no one know also. If anyone telling you that next day market would be good with 100% confidence. He just bull you...

Also, buying fund,... you need some time to recover. As they are some charges incurs. Anyway,... the Public Far-East Dividend Fund(since November 2006) is performing quite good with profit yield of 3.14% now(as at 8th February 2007). Therefore, can you see that... from November 2006 till February 2007. Then only I can tell its performance(i personally very happy with this 3.14% tongue.gif ).

While Public Far-East Balanced Fund(since 23 January 2007)... has not get ready into the market yet...

Does that give you any idea how does Fund works in any sense? unsure.gif

This post has been edited by edifgrto: Feb 9 2007, 09:01 PM
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post Feb 10 2007, 06:42 PM

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any idea abt OSK UOB GLOBAL EQUITY FUND..
closing on tuesday..
50cent per unit..........

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QUOTE(damiendamonster @ Feb 10 2007, 06:42 PM)
any idea abt OSK UOB GLOBAL EQUITY FUND..
closing on tuesday..
50cent per unit..........

Hi mate, I checked OSK-UOB web page... and found,

OSK-UOB EQUITY FUNDS
    *OSK-UOB Equity Trust
    *OSK-UOB Small Cap Opportunity Unit Trust
    *KLCI Tracker Fund
    *TMT Focus Fund
    *OSK-UOB Dana Islam
    *OSK-UOB Emerging Opportunity Unit Trust
    *OSK-UOB Growth And Income Focus Trust
    *OSK-UOB Global Equity Yield Fund
    *OSK-UOB Asia Pacific Fund
    *OSK-UOB Global Allocation Fund
    *OSK-UOB Resources Fund
    *OSK-UOB Global New Stars Fund

Which one actually you meant? Sorry, i can't find any related information yet...
This OSK-UOB fund manager is quite strong too... You got any website or pdf file(related to OSK UOB GLOBAL EQUITY FUND) to download about(please check your brochure if any)?

By the way,... please check out this OSK-UOB calculator page. It can tell you something like

1. Investor Risk Profiling
2. How Much to Save?
3. What Is My Initial Lump Sum Investment?
4. What Is My Target Savings?
5. Which Fund Should I Invest?
6. Retirement Calculator A
7. Retirement Calculator B
8. EPF Investment Calculator

Personally I like this item 5. Atleast it gives us some ideas on how we can invest in OSK-UOB fund series, and which fund would be more appropriate?! thumbup.gif

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shud be this...OSK-UOB Global New Stars Fund... http://www.oskuob.com.my/OSKUOB/page.jsp?n...ddtl_newstars#a ....i mistaken the fund name...
sory



appreciated of ur helpp

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post Feb 11 2007, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(edifgrto @ Feb 9 2007, 07:45 PM)
Hi mhui,
Public got
EQUITY FUND
    *Public Far-East Select Fund
    *Public Far-East Dividend Fund (new)
BALANCED FUND(Some people named it as Mixed Asset Fund?)
    *Public Far-East Balanced Fund (new)
The one you named as PB Far East fund is not available yet... As it would be under PB SERIES OF FUNDS category already. wink.gif

Actually, no one know how long the market would be good? Like today, Friday,... the market is doh.gif Then, by Monday,... no one know also. If anyone telling you that next day market would be good with 100% confidence. He just bull you...

Also, buying fund,... you need some time to recover. As they are some charges incurs. Anyway,... the Public Far-East Dividend Fund(since November 2006) is performing quite good with profit yield of 3.14% now(as at 8th February 2007). Therefore, can you see that... from November 2006 till February 2007. Then only I can tell its performance(i personally very happy with this 3.14% tongue.gif ).

While Public Far-East Balanced Fund(since 23 January 2007)... has not get ready into the market yet...

Does that give you any idea how does Fund works in any sense? unsure.gif
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PFED is good and overtook PGSF. PGSF in red on THursday, really cant understand.
Might sell it after breakeven.
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post Feb 11 2007, 07:02 PM

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For balanced fund, normally its performance won't as good as equity one since for balanced fund, normally about half portion of the fund is already putting in money market instrument like FD or bond that earn steady yield while another hald portion is investing in equity.

For newly launched New Stars Fund, it mainly invests in newly formed company or newly listed company especially those IPO in stock market if not mistaken. Personally don't like it since it is more risky than investing in those established and old blue chip company. But again high risk high gain, so it is based on one risk appetide.
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QUOTE(wufei @ Feb 11 2007, 10:10 AM)
PFED is good and overtook PGSF. PGSF in red on THursday, really cant understand.
Might sell it after breakeven.
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So you also bought PGSF, wufei. My friend is still hesitating on selling his units in this fund. sweat.gif

Well, I think PFED has a great potential and they have their 3rd time fund increase.

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Public Mutual's Far-East Dividend Fund Inceases Fund Size for the 3rd Time  

KUALA LUMPUR 5 February 2007 - Public Bank's wholly-owned subsidiary, Public Mutual announced that it has obtained the approval from the Securities Commission (SC) to increase the fund size of Public Far-East Dividend Fund (PFEDF) from 3.5 billion units to 5 billion units.

Chief Executive Officer Lam Kam Yin said, "This is the third time the company has increased the fund size of PFEDF after it was launched on 28 November 2006. To date, more than RM858 million (or more than 3.4 billion units) worth of units of PFEDF were sold. The increase in fund size of PFEDF by another 1.5 billion units will allow the company to meet strong market demand".

PFEDF is an equity income fund that seeks to provide income by investing in a portfolio of stocks in domestic and regional markets which offer or have the potential to offer attractive dividend yields. The fund focuses on investing in companies that have demonstrated consistency in rewarding their shareholders via strong dividend payouts. "Up to 70% of the fund's Net Asset Value (NAV) can be invested in selected regional markets which include South Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Philippines, Indonesia, Singapore, Thailand and other approved markets," he added. The equity exposure of PFEDF will generally range from 75% to 90% of its NAV. The fund is suitable for moderate investors with preference for receiving income while capital growth is secondary.

Public Mutual is the largest private unit trust company in Malaysia, and it manages 38 funds for more than 900,000 accountholders. As at 29 December 2006, the total NAV of the funds managed by the company was RM16.2 billion.

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/article.aspx?id=5913
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post Feb 11 2007, 10:01 PM

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basically i am just a newbie trying to understand how unit trust work. i am quite interested investing in public mutual..can anyone tell me that if i wan to buy pb mutual fund where can i buy??

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