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Fund Investment Corner, Please share anything about Fund.
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b00n
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Jul 26 2007, 04:19 PM
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delusional
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But with capital guarantee to their tag; it makes them work hard to make the funds perform....thus they subject it to a certain tenure for investment. Which is after calculations; they could still guarantee one's initial investment.
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b00n
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Jul 26 2007, 05:47 PM
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delusional
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true true....overlooked that.. thanks!
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b00n
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Aug 6 2007, 11:00 AM
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delusional
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Aug 6 2007, 02:13 AM) Because u will loose on charges of switching the funds  i'm an agent if funds below 100k it's better not switching unless you bare the charges by PM . Anyway up to you bro  . I attend the course and they explain everything ask your agent about it  . by selling and re-invest I loose out 6.5%. Switching only cost me RM25 (right?)...so why not switch?! Are you seriously an agent?! SO you're advising leaving my money in 1 fund for like 10-20 yrs without switching?! Pls elaborate as I think many are confused on your statement.
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b00n
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Aug 6 2007, 01:44 PM
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delusional
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MX510, Switching from equity to bond doesn't cost you anything. Thus it's usually advisable to switch from equity to bond if the market is going down. (or based on one's guts feel or predictions) Switching back from bond to equity would cost you RM25; but service charges is no longer applicable. That's what I understand as an investor. Either the other agents are wrong or your manager is wrong.
And yes, technically you wouldn't loose much since amount of investment is low. But than again, you have the options not to loose or you got more control in profiting by investing wisely.
I think you need to brush up your skills in investment if you're going to do UT sales full time. Naive investor might buy your theory; but I think there's a lot of investor like me who doesn't adhere to yours.
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b00n
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Aug 16 2007, 04:25 PM
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delusional
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Aug 16 2007, 04:22 PM) Since I buy a lot of PM, would it be wise to be an agent myself? Than you have to find out whether or not you can put the agent name as yourself. If yes; than you need to proceed to get recruited and pass the test by FUTM. Better get some confirmation from qualified agents here.
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b00n
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Sep 14 2007, 10:47 AM
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delusional
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Mutual Gold Benefit - Discount at Basking Robbins... haha just to inform those who do not know... kekekeke just learned about that a few weeks back from a friend.
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b00n
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Sep 14 2007, 11:11 AM
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delusional
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The only main benefit I saw with that status is the free insurance given. The rest nothing to be glamour about.
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b00n
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Sep 14 2007, 11:40 AM
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delusional
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QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 14 2007, 11:21 AM) If use EPF money to buy equity funds, can increase the mutual point? I guess possible as I also don't know. I guess technically it should qualify also because that's the amount you invested also...right? QUOTE(dzi921 @ Sep 14 2007, 11:21 AM) Switching fee is waived for unlimited switchings between all loaded funds. In addition, administration fee is also waived for requests such as transfer of units. But if switch from Equity to Bond still charge right? I think that need to clarify. But your last sentence I deem as wrong unless I'm wrong myself because I thought switching from equity to bond requires no charge but if to switch from bond back to equity you'll be charged. Equity to equity you'll also be charged, but I guess with Mutual Gold benefits, this would be waived; but not sure about reentering equity once you got out to money market.
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b00n
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Sep 15 2007, 02:26 AM
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delusional
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QUOTE(lwb @ Sep 15 2007, 01:15 AM) so there's way(s) to avoid that 6.5% (heck, it was even higher last time).. but not many will walk the path that i took.  ................by becoming an agent yourself?.......kekeke
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b00n
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Sep 17 2007, 02:25 PM
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delusional
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Regarding the not paying service charges I still can't figure it out yet besides having us ourself as an agent or spouse as one. But the long path that you walked, I only remember you mentioned you're working in the management side of PM. So what other secrets you learned from the experience?
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b00n
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Oct 5 2007, 11:20 AM
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delusional
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Ask your agent to print individual fund performance from their system. Maybe you will find it more informative by looking at that one.
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b00n
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Oct 23 2007, 02:04 PM
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delusional
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This would be a great news for investor using EPF money: The StarQUOTE EPF scheme to help members save more for retirement
By PAUL CHOO
paulchoo@thestar.com.my
KUALA LUMPUR: All Employees Provident Fund contributors will, from Feb 1, be able to withdraw part of their funds and channel them to approved investment programmes.
Under the new scheme, contributors, irrespective of age, will be able to withdraw from Account One what is in excess of a "required amount" of savings as determined by the EPF and invest the money in unit trusts.
Currently, contributors can only do so if they have in excess of RM50,000.
This is one among a range of changes that the EPF is implementing in stages to make it easier for contributors to exercise the option to augment their savings for their retirement.
Using the tagline "Beyond Savings", the EPF also hopes the changes will ensure that contributors have enough money for retirement.
Other changes include:
# MORE flexible withdrawals for contributors at age 55;
# ALLOWING withdrawal of any amount irrespective of age for savings in excess of RM1mil;
# ALLOWING withdrawals from Account Two for critical illness insurance; and
# WITHDRAWALS for housing loan instalments.
These changes were revealed by EPF chief executive officer Datuk Azlan Zainol at the fund's headquarters here yesterday.
Azlan said the EPF has established a set of "required amounts" for contributors depending on their age.
The amounts are based on the assumption that a person would need at least RM120,000 - or RM500 a month - from retirement at 55 to age 75.
He said a contributor could withdraw 20% of the amount in excess of the required amount for investments in unit trusts.
"For example, if a 25-year-old has RM20,000 in Account One, he can take 20% of the excess to invest once every three months. This is because his required amount is only RM9,000," he said.
For those who have reached 55, Azlan said that from Nov 1 they would have several options: withdraw everything they have, go for monthly withdrawals of at least RM250 for at least one year, or withdraw at least RM2,000 at any one time.
Currently, members aged 55 can only choose to withdraw the entire sum, withdraw only annual dividends, or take out monthly amounts but for at least five years.
Azlan said there would also be changes to the procedures for age 50 withdrawals.
From Jan 1, 2013, those who reach 50 would only be able to withdraw any amount from Account Two if their Account One has at least RM90,000, the required amount for that age.
On using EPF withdrawals to pay housing loan instalments, Azlan said that although the money would be banked straight into the contributors' accounts, it would be liasing with the banks to ensure that the loans are properly serviced.
"If they fail to pay their instalments for three months, the bank will inform us and we will stop payment to the contributors," he said, adding that this scheme would start from Jan 1.
Azlan said that from Nov 1, those who had more than RM1mil in their savings could withdraw and invest the excess amount anytime. He said there were about 4,700 contributors who had more than RM1mil in their accounts. This post has been edited by b00n: Oct 23 2007, 02:06 PM
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b00n
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Oct 25 2007, 10:16 AM
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delusional
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On the EPF new rulings; I've got a confirmation that there would be scheduled table by KWSP. It's would be sort of like the PCB table by LHDN. In the table it would state that based on age what is the minimum amount required to be in account 1 before you can withdraw the money for investment. At least it's not going to be a RM50,000 minimum capping for withdrawal to invest. So it's basically good news for whoever wishes to use EPF money for investment.
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b00n
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Oct 25 2007, 10:35 PM
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delusional
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Yeap basically next year onwards I would get my account 2 for paying off my housing loans. (first withdrawal) than large portion of my EPF is going into unit trust mainly PM series. Wonder would EPF reopen the choice of investing in foreign funds.
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b00n
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Oct 26 2007, 09:20 AM
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delusional
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QUOTE(Lover @ Oct 26 2007, 12:14 AM) we can use the EPF money to invest any UT or they will limit for some particular UT ony.. They changed the rules this year for EPF investment into local funds only. That's the down part as many prefers oversea funds and also a lot of major funds are diversified between local and foreign, so this type of funds also cannot invest.
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b00n
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Dec 8 2007, 03:41 PM
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delusional
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QUOTE(bafukie @ Dec 8 2007, 11:02 AM) i normally wont encourage ppl to do investment and insurance together. Seperate it, buy pure life insurance + investment in unit trust. That way, you get the best of 'both world'. Besides, if u know how much is the commission for insurance agent for the first 6 years, u will be disgusted like me.  Same here....always advise newbies to split the 2. But anyway, 1 question I hope you don't mind answering. Usually for foreign investment, i.e. if you go through the net; would there still be "service charges/transaction charges"? Hope bbmars can answer also in regards to Singapore's fund.
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b00n
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Jan 21 2008, 10:36 AM
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delusional
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Comes February, I finally can start use EPF which calculated into around RM7,000 investment based on the new scheme. Meaning to say my EF would not be left idling with KWSP and I'm happy with that!.
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b00n
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Feb 19 2008, 04:22 PM
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delusional
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QUOTE(FattiePotato @ Feb 19 2008, 04:15 PM) I had a question tat i couldn't think of the answer. "How to lose ur money in unit trust?" Since when we start to invest in unit trust, all the money value will be shift into unit. Even the market up or down, it won't affect our money because in the account is only in unit. It only will affect us when we repurchase the unit out because the unit will turn into money value. So if like this, then we only took out the money when the price go up n not during the time go down lor.. Then... how came ppl can lose money in unit trust? I still couldn't get it! We the one controlling the time of repurchase and not the market rite? So... whether the market up o down oso... Its none of our investor business oso. Am I rite?  Technically yes.....but when you need money, do you redeem your units? Another complicated one which I simplified it: Units or not, the money is invested in equities and bonds.....so if so unlucky even after all the diversification all the method still loose money as market is really bad, so where is the money to cash out the unit if they put it at high price? Thus they need to quote the unit's price at lower price and so happens you need money like I mentioned.....or the market never rebounded. There...you loose money. Btw, you loose money once you signed up...that's the service charge.
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b00n
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Apr 30 2008, 02:08 PM
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delusional
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QUOTE(shikuzika @ Apr 30 2008, 12:30 PM) NEED HELP FROM ANYONE WHO KNOWS ABOUT CIMB WEALTH ADVISORS I recently signed up for th DALI equity fund. I started with 10k. My confirmation statement has arrived, and here's what it stated: CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY GROWTH FUNDGross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 1.0398 / Units Credited 4,525.14 / Balance of Units 4,515.14 CIMB ISLAMIC DALI EQUITY THEME FUNDGross Amount (RM) 5,000.00 / Charges (%) 0.00 / Charges (RM) 305.16 / Net Amount 4694.84 / Unit Price (RM) 0.2549 / Units Credited 18,418.36 / Balance of Units 18,418.36 How come in the Charges (%) it says 0.00 but in RM it states 305.16??? What is the difference between growth fund and theme fund? I only agreed to purchase the RM0.2549 units. Why did my (what do I call the agent?) signed me up for two separate funds??? Is there any negative or positive effects to all this? Help!!!  Usually growth fund is more aggressive because it invest in companies that are "growing". i.e. either new listed companies or those that had plans for expansion (new projects etc...). Theme fund however not sure. Anyway, phone up your agent and ask for his/her explanation on the statement; and why this 2 categories?
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