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post Jun 20 2009, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(Anni @ Feb 6 2009, 12:33 PM)
Fall of 09 means autumn season. In US, schools typically start in august, and some college start in sept. Basically its like Jan in Malaysia where everyone kicks start the new grade. If you are coming this year, you will start in the fall of 09.
You dont have to worry about the amount of new students unless you are going to harvard etc. 99% of the college are competing against each other, and on top of that US has way too many college.

Grading is 90+ A, 80+ B, 70+ C, 60+ D, below 60 = failed
in GPA.......4..........3.........2..........1.......retake the course lol

education here is much more easy compare to malaysia. you gonna get tested on the stuff you learned in a month or 2 months period. You know excactly what will be on the test, no suprise at all. Usually, no comprehensive test even it comes to final, got exception tho. Final is usually the stuff that you learned during the month before final.
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Nice one, but I doubt that their final is that easy?? I heard from someone said that their finals are more on application, not like ours, straight forward question..

QUOTE(SeLrAhC @ Jun 5 2009, 11:03 AM)
cali is a good place to study... but not a very good place 2 live in...

d weather suits us very well, food for asians is everywhere

d bad part is d homeless, crimes n illness of the state..

no doubt their uni system is one of d best in d world...
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California, yea weather and food suit, but living cost is a bit pricey lah lol.

Now I'm planning to go for next January intake, either SUNY or Nebraska Lincoln, so far just two options, depend on my result.
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post Jul 4 2009, 02:36 AM

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An important question to be asked here, I wanna change my major before I get into degree level, do universities at US have major for pure chemistry...??
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post Jul 14 2009, 05:40 PM

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Hi bro, thanks for the pm and such a good information.

I'm considering this University as well, Minnesota Twin Cities, so the tuition fees usd14k + room and board usd7k = usd21k = what we have to spend for a year over there??

Don't really get you at the visa and green card part there, haha, are you an ex-adtp and now working at US? I'm planning to stay at US as well once I graduate if I get a job over there, study for few years and continue for my master level.
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post Jul 15 2009, 09:12 PM

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Hmm ok..So it is only a tiny hope for us to stay there and work after graduate for our degree...??

My choice is SUNY, but it is not stony brook, it's buffalo, anyway that's my last resort, now I'm still looking for other Universities.

I don't really get what are you trying to mean by this..

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Nebraska Lincoln - this isn't cheap, Non-resident tuition: $533.75/credit hour  not fix rate after 13 credits! might as well go Uni of Arizona (at least ranked higher in Grad Chem in 2007)
http://admissions.unl.edu/cost/


Isn't that everything is in usd25k+- per year, as stated at the link there??

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post Jul 15 2009, 09:47 PM

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Thanks for such a detail information notworthy.gif

What do you mean by renown university? I mean which university can be considered as renown?? Hmm so the system of Nebraska Lincoln is a bit different with others? They charge more if you take more credit hour??

I have quite number of friends which is in SUNY buffalo, that's my last resort anyway, what's in my mind now is Iowa State University, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, and SUNY Buffalo.

Mind if I ask what and where do you do for living and where did you do your degree??

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post Jul 15 2009, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 10:02 PM)
The system of Nebraska Lincoln is pretty much the same with most Uni in USA, eg: Aurburn, Old Dominian, etc

Iowa State U... hmm.. let me do some searches.
Great news, Iowa State does the same thing like Arizona. Fix rate after 12 credits
However summer it follows Minnesota, U still pay non residence rate.
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~registrar/f...ugradnonres0910

since U are going to read Chem, by renown I meant schools that ranked high in this field (but at Phd level)
eg: Minnesota-twin cities (22)
Iowa State (36)
Uni of Arizona (36)
SUNY-Buffalo (unranked, maybe good but can't be sure)
SUNY-Stony Brook (50)

since U don't mind going Iowa State, maybe can look at Uni of Utah

just curious, have U done your SAT and TOEFL? any score?
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Ok I think I get what you are trying to mean, and the university system, some they fix the tuition fees for 12 and above credit hours, but some they have different tuition fees even the credit hours is more than 12.

Nope I haven't done my TOEFL yet, going to do it by the end of this month, 25 of July.

Ok University of Utah, I'll have a look on it. But the first in my list I would say University of Minnesota.

Haiz what is disappointing me is you said that hardly can find a job in states for me after my degree, I really wish I could stay there and make money, since my dad is gonna pay so much for my studies, what's the point of coming back Malaysia instead of staying there..

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post Jul 15 2009, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 10:15 PM)
forget Utah, they charge per credit all the way to 25 credits! who can survive 26 credits per term! its crazy!
http://fbs.admin.utah.edu/index.php/fsnr/

basically have 2 system in how they charge tution
- change every credit U are taking.
- charge $X per credit but passing Y credits you do not have to pay more money.

Minnesota U find plenty of Malaysian doing Chemical Engineering. I learnt many of them are scholars too!
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wow it's dangerous if apply and get into the first system university.

Erm mind explaining the last sentence? I don't really get what are you trying to mean there..
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post Jul 15 2009, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 10:26 PM)
Good point!
in that case, U have to die die go for a graduate degree.
work your ass off for 3.5yrs and aim for a GPA of 3.9. 1 good thing going to a search Uni, plenty of research going around. Seek out a Prof and ask to do research under his RA for FREE! Get your names publish on a paper.
Plan ahead and do your GRE in your freshman yr. Scores are kept for 5yrs.
apply for a Phd program and take the aid provided by the University! may it be TA/RA. all these aid pay for your tuition and will cover most if not all of your living expenses. so U end up paying next to nothing.

not everyone gets out from the 5-6yrs Phd with glory!
the attrition rates are often at around 50%, meaning 50% failed and end up with a Masters.
while U are on your Phd program, spend your 2nd yr looking for internship.
if u are going for your Phd work hard, else clear the requirement to get your masters should U fail and exit gracefully.
Uni is not asking U to return those money they had spend on U.

now arm with your higher degree, U just increase your chance getting a job! and your path to a greencard is half the time should company apply for it.
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Wow that ain't easy..Not a normal person as me can do that sad.gif sad.gif

Are you living in states? Why do you know so much about studies and jobs there..??
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post Jul 15 2009, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 10:38 PM)
any normal ppl can work hard. It all depends if U wanna do it or not!
I finished my undergrad in 2.5yrs, when I applied for Grad program my GPA was 3.8. Didn't make it to any top 10 Uni, settled for a top 20 Uni in my major.
my colleague finished his in 2.5yrs too but at a very renown Uni UMICH-Ann Arbor without any latin title.

so its very possible to finish in a very short time, thats why I gave U the extra time 3.5yrs and get high GPA!
aim 3.9, ppl always fall short, but it shouldn't be too far away to get U to the place u wanna go.
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I see, so you straight away go for Grad program without working after your degree? Provided your family must be supportive in term of money blush.gif blush.gif
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post Jul 15 2009, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 10:48 PM)
I am lucky, but didn't i help U figure a way to get those FREE money!!
I learnt that after I am in the program! *** Sad ***
all the Indians and MainLand Chinese are playing this game!
So be smart and learn from my mistake!


my family also not rich, else why must I cramp a regular 4yr program into 2.5yrs!
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unsure.gif huh?? hmm.gif which part is that??
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post Jul 16 2009, 01:53 AM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Jul 15 2009, 11:56 PM)
Please don't tell me U read with a closed eyes!

anyway, U might wanna know about this
http://www.public.iastate.edu/~catalog/200...ecognition.html
SUNY-Buffalo honors req is LOW man! A easy way to guage how good is the Uni, U can look at the cum laude requirement.
some uni like Uni of Washington has it top 2% Summa Cum Laude, next 6% at Magna, next 10% at Cum Laude, really limit it to top 20%.
This style of allocation, maybe 50% of the grads see some kind of cum laude.
http://undergrad-catalog.buffalo.edu/polic...ee/honors.shtml
BTW: U have not done your TOEFL!!! To apply for Minnesota U need SAT I! and here is a general profile. Most students go for Tech program.
2008 avg SAT CLA-Chem  is 1245 out of 1600
2008 avg SAT Tech-Chem is 1325 out of 1600
http://admissions.tc.umn.edu/academics/profile.html

are u looking for Uni without SAT 1 requirement?
I can see SUNY do not have SAT requirement, Iowa State have it as an optional requirement.
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shocking.gif HUH? really they require SAT??

http://admissions.tc.umn.edu/admissioninfo/intl_english.html

What about this?
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post Sep 1 2009, 10:27 PM

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Hi Pat and Anni, what do you guys think about Oklahoma State University?

Just sent my application letter to SUNY Buffalo, now looking other University that is cheap, my budget is around USD25K / year, and I'm having difficulties to find low cost with good education hmm.gif sweat.gif
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post Sep 1 2009, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(patryn33 @ Sep 1 2009, 10:41 PM)
not pro Oklahoma State University.
cheap why not BYU? definately fit your bill IIRC.
tuition under US$10K!
http://home.byu.edu/webapp/finserve/conten...ge/Tuition.html
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Hi bro, not pro you stated there means not good enough ?? lol.

Regarding the BYU, how do you know it's good?? You distinguish good or 'not pro' base on what biggrin.gif biggrin.gif ??

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