Hmmm. Still in two minds. Feel sayang to letgo my ipv4 but heavy and bulky to carry it around. Hope that d2 can match my liking.

i felt like subtank rba v2 is better than v3. Or maybe my wicking something wrong. Sometime v3 get dry hit even soaked with juice in tank. Sometime spitting like fountain.

thx for the link .. will put in 1st page

petition is up in 1st page .. kindly bump this post and remind other vapers to sign up to this ..



https://www.change.org/p/kementerian-kesiha...medium=copylink

This post has been edited by ekudz: Aug 22 2015, 09:53 AM

done

guys is this legit?

that being on the first page for everyone to see would suggest to a newcomer that we as a forum support the issues that "move" aims to market and bring forth. i'm not so sure, personally, of their intent/ability to represent what I think. IMHO

I rather stick to 1 in 1.

Subox will be replaced by the upcoming Evic TVC (Mini Evic)

Edit: Added YouTube video for reference - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayHxt1v25S0

This post has been edited by fauxfides: Aug 22 2015, 03:02 PM

so what do u think they represent in your own mind sir?

Yup, I dunno why. I got 2 M80..sold within hours.

Alamak. Now got evic mini. Macam best je instead of d2. One thing about d2 is I keep seeing ohm jumping in joule mod. Even after locking the resistance. I am not sure fellow vapers here in /k facing same problem.

d2 > stratum > still clone

I understand the need for regulation and this "MOVE"-ment is pushing for the need to do so BUT ...
They did not state how they intend to regulate. It's like saying we want to make sure all cars are safe but without the proper/detailed explanation to how they intend to achieve it. That's not a good petition without a supporting back-up of their plans or what not. And again, the idea is there but the execution is non-existent.

Crazy rambling around mid-afternoon but I hope I get my point across.

^ this

i oso cant confirm how the method?
what i can confirm is they need to show we got lots of support from fellow vapers that we wanted to legalize vaping .. before the govt shut us down .. at least we need to do something .. its better than sitting on our hands is it .. this my 2cents .. we just do some effort ..

btw .. im not in the move community .. just someone wanted to make vapers life a little bit easier ..

appreciate if uolls can join the move group in FB .. there's a pinned post explaining their intend .. maybe there all question can be answer ...

I think the reason why he said that is because the clear intention was never made known to supporters. Well, I know it's to lobby against the proposed banning of vaping. Fine. You get people to sign the petition, fine. And then what? What would be discussed? What was discussed by the organiser at their meeting last night? It all seems hush hush & dare I say it, going into a battle without ammunition. Within hours of the FB group being set up, they have scores of sellers taking advantage (the admin deleted, kudos to them) & fights ala VMOG erupted. The way they handled these so called trolls were very unconvincing. And the lack of major support by the big player in the vaping world is worrying. By right, they should be the one taking the initiative for this. It's their livelihood after all.

As I've said, MOVE will achieve one of 2 things. Relaxing by the authorities on vaping OR a total ban. Looking at things, we are heading towards the former. No disrespect to the organiser but you guys better make sure your armoury is sufficient. Me? I'm prepped for doomsday.

i cant comment on this because im not in the big league
maybe any suggestion can post it inside move FB .. so everyone can see the answer .. anyway .. for me we just try something .. sign a petition is ok ..
other than move they also have MevTA .. for me lah .. atleast something rather than nothing .. we dont want just sit back and enjoy the ride because if the ride suck its us that paid for the ride

Sweet. Thank goodness for the buttons!!!

Second this. Yes there is always pro and cons, but hey this is a start. It can be a foundation. Then whatever comes next can be tackled , IF the community stands together. Its easier to question initiative it self about whether they did their study/research/plan/et cetera et cetera et cetera.

But then, its better rather than staying quiet letting the gomen throw hammer on the community. And a question for everyone to put in their hearts, what have you done to benefit the community? If you think you have something to benefit us, for all our sake do something about it then.

Talk louder than action. this my brazzer POV.