a good way to start ur magic is to visit ur nearest magic shop ask them for the advice ...i personally feel that born to perform dvd by oz pearlman is a good way to start off ur magic hobby..i advise u guyz not to go websites to search for any loopholes to the trick but instead by buying their dvd it gives u the performing right to perform to other people...my last piece of advise is that pls support original bcoz imagine how hard those magician creating some genius effects in magic..support them by buying original

the system sold in ellusionist?can u give me the link?as i know "the system" by the buck twins only sold at their website only...for ur info dvd sold by magic ring are mostly pirated ...u c the their packing and the packing for original dvd u will know the difference..they make their dvd looks nicer but still can c difference from original ..born to perform is a real good dvd for beginners..oz pearlman spends a lot of time teaching u the basics etc..try to get originals cost around RM100 with shipping

u are wrong..not every trick can be learn by looking at once ..if u can learn ur tricks from ur frens by looking at once means that either u seen that trick over and over again b4 or there is problem with ur fren not practicing enuff for the trick and exposing it to you...knowing the secret of the trick and mastering the trick is totally different bare in mind..is like a person know wat is a DL but they cant perform a DL properly..ur statement give misconception to ppl that starting to learn magic...magic is not that simple it requires practice and i mean practice daily constantly at least 1-2 hours a day..some of my frens practice up to 5-6hours a day

wow u so keng ...good for u then

to fan like his avatar is not hard if u have guidance and practice and with the help of fanning powder it is even easier...not to show off but i also can also fan like the avatar..bcoz u can try and retry many times to perfect ur fan then take a pic..good flourishers can constantly fan well yeah and their card handlings are good...if u wan start learning flourish can learn some basic sybil from youtube.com...then can start buying the system dvd by buck twins...dan and dave rox

bicyle has 2 back 1 is rider back 1 is league back...i prefer using league back..it is actually the same but jus the back different only ..sts by jay noblezada the gimmick can buy from normal shop for less than RM5...how i know that?my girlfren bought that gimmick from a shop in mid valley to put her touch n go card ..of coz u need the right instruction in order to do the trick..

for me i dun personally do sts bcoz i feel that is a very obvious sound and is very obvious that y u suddenly holding ur pants(those who bought sts will understand)...for me i prefer tricks that i can do anywhere i wan at anytime not neccesary impromptu ..for those who still wan sts i can sell it at a cheaper price if u guyz 1 bcoz i have 1 now that i'm not using...bought back open the gimmick watch the dvd then put back inside the packet

ur fan shud b ok liao but when take pic dun put ur 4 fingers on top so that ppl can see the shape of fan properly ..practice more then slowly everytime u open the fan sure nice and big

all those deck u all can get from magic ring

all cards can be easily fan if u apply fanning powder to the cards ...of coz u must at least know how to fan 1st..fanning powder jus makes ur fanning easier

u guyz shud actually go and buy original dvd instead of keep sharing and download it from somewhere else...this is piracy..pls give credit to the creator of the trick by supporting original

a good double lift can nvr be seen by a layperson ..practice ur double lift daily especially when watching ur fav tv series/manga keep double lifting those cards until the relationship between u and ur cards is close..its almost like spending time with ur gf ..

yeap MR selling vipers for RM50...MR ppl is very friendly... i alwiz go there hang out and chi chat with them most of the time i dun buy things ..but MR selling pirated but then at least they sell at RM70...good for magic even though it is pirated but at least u need to buy the secret at a reasonable price...

yesterday i was at MR sitting at the counter...there is this guy who was inside this shop dam long edi looking at the magic stuff ..then he asked me bout few items and wat it does..he thought i am a staff there ..but i showed him some simple svengali routines and cups and ball...at the end he bought the svengali deck and the cups and ball...hey hey 1st time selling a stuff to ppl but too bad i kenot get commision

i guess if u buy svengali nonit buy those bike back or ghost edition de...too expensive sure RM50<...buy the china made good enuff RM25..also not using to train ur sleight of hand y wan to waste so much money?svengali routines are pretty much self working y wan waste that xtra amount of moeny to buy a better quality...i suggest u get the cheap svengali which cost RM25 in magic ring save the others buy another bike deck better

yea i agree with u thats y i say if u getting svengali get the cheapest 1 ...yea i prefer using sleight of hand...hey u have ur own ambitious routine?i recently created my own ambitious routine...i dun dare to do pass because my pass is not fast enuff ..usually i will end with card to pocket or card to mouth..i recently was thinking issit possible to do card to ceiling..since the card always jumps to the top y not jump all the way to the top of the ceiling

the ambitious card is the card that alwiz jumps to the top even though u put in middle of the deck using sleight of hand

it doesnt necesarry to be a DL ..there is many ways to do it..so many ways in fact ...example marlo tilt,the pass,le braul pop up move,erdnase change to name a few

i got a friend jus get dealership from murphy ...can order from is cheaper

yup isaac is my fren...he is still working there ..if u guys wan anything can contact him...he is officially a murphy dealer now ...yeah can get things cheaper

hey justone are u the justone in the mmf forum?coz i thought i saw u there although u are not that active

my nick there is szehowe ..dun get intimidated from the pros man!do attend our gathering i guarantee u can improve for there...provided u got smth to show us