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Building AM2 x2 3800 budget PC, Please help
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suppaman
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Nov 14 2006, 03:32 PM
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I think it should be Geforce 7600 and radeon x1600 rite?
Display i think 7600GT good idea.
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8tvt
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Nov 14 2006, 03:44 PM
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TShari
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Nov 14 2006, 03:53 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Nov 14 2006, 03:44 PM) I need a setup that can OC, that's why in OC forum.
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soulfly
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Nov 14 2006, 06:08 PM
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RM300 budget for mobo.... you should go for BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 instead of the MSI. Low end MSI is often problematic and a lot of incompatibility with many hardwares.
TForce 6100-AM2 is stable, caps are great (solid capacitors around the CPU)... and most important, the board is using blue pcb instead of ugly red.
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akachester
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Nov 14 2006, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Nov 14 2006, 06:08 PM) RM300 budget for mobo.... you should go for BIOSTAR TForce 6100-AM2 instead of the MSI. Low end MSI is often problematic and a lot of incompatibility with many hardwares. TForce 6100-AM2 is stable, caps are great (solid capacitors around the CPU)... and most important, the board is using blue pcb instead of ugly red. Agree.Biostar mobo is always recommended for OC.Great performance and reliability as well as a good pricing point as well...
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TShari
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Nov 14 2006, 08:01 PM
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Thanks for MB info.
Now the RAM. Should I go for Kingston PC5300 of Corsiar PC5300? Or anything better but around RM400.
512 x 2 or 1024 x1?
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soulfly
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Nov 14 2006, 08:06 PM
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512x2 better. Any of those two will do (if you're thinking of value RAM).
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8tvt
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Nov 15 2006, 12:02 PM
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mobo don't take value MSI right now.. casing CM Centurion 5.. what's about PSU? how's the budget? if want to reduce the price better take X2 3600+ and spare more on gpu for gaming ofcourse..
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TShari
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Nov 15 2006, 12:14 PM
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Biostar TForce6100 AM2 or Biostar TForce 550?
6100 is small board and 550 look normal size one.
What the different in running AM2 x2 3800?
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TShari
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Nov 15 2006, 12:21 PM
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QUOTE(8tvt @ Nov 15 2006, 12:02 PM) casing CM Centurion 5.. what's about PSU? Does CM Centurion 5 comes with standard PSU? Sufficient or not? I may sound stupid but PSU never come to mind. http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...5+Centurion%205This post has been edited by hari: Nov 15 2006, 12:33 PM
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8tvt
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Nov 15 2006, 12:55 PM
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if u intend to OC.. spare another 200-300 for PSU alone.. good casing normally didn't come with PSU.. if u targeting around RM100 casing.. u will just obtain normal PSU..
What's the different in running AM2 x2 3800? pay more for the bigger L2 cache.. which no need so often.. performance still on par on certain apps.. with 3600+.. pay less, energy efficient, less heat, cheap, OCable..
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soulfly
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Nov 15 2006, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(hari @ Nov 15 2006, 12:14 PM) Biostar TForce6100 AM2 or Biostar TForce 550?
6100 is small board and 550 look normal size one.
What the different in running AM2 x2 3800? 6100 has on-board graphics, 550 doesn't. but that's not very important 6100 have 2 IDE connectors, 550 only have 1 IDE. most important is 6100 is priced below RM300 ... 550 is above RM300.
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TShari
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Nov 15 2006, 03:21 PM
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8tvt been asking me why I need 3800 instead of lower cache AM2 x2 3600? My reason, correct me if i'm wrong, a lot of multi tasking, photoshop and video rendering.
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soulfly
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Nov 15 2006, 03:50 PM
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bigger cache gives significant advantage if you do video encoding.
i've compared a sempron 256k L2 with an athlon64 512k L2 .... both are from the same core revision, and both are overclocked to the same speed at 2.7ghz. athlon64 is faster.
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stevenlee
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Nov 15 2006, 04:13 PM
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i might suggest u wait the nv88 mid and low end version that might probably around ur budget and the card is better than current model...i think it going to release soon...
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mruzian
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Nov 15 2006, 05:51 PM
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if u wanna o'c hv u thought bout the PSU and oso the HSF coz u need a good n stable psu for o'c oso a good cooling unit os that ur proc wont burn 1) go for X2 3800+ 2) biostar 6100 oso good 3) i prefer corsair than kingston..get the 512mb*2 instead a 1gb 4) 7600gt better than X1600 5) depends on ur budget..there is a lot of gud n nice lookin case there @ lowyat
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8tvt
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Nov 16 2006, 09:16 AM
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ofcourse it's has pros and cons.. but the RM100 different is big for me.. coz u mentioned 'budget' AFAIK the imaging need faster/big ram... if u into video rendering or image editting.. u look here to compare both cpu.. http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...-x2-3600_9.htmlhttp://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...-x2-3600_8.htmlif cache is everything.. why amd still use low cache since the beginning compare to intel? coz amd found not all appz can utilise it and can reduce the cost.. and targetting budget ppl that need the speed..
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soulfly
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Nov 16 2006, 10:11 AM
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From my observation, I haven't seen any X2 3600+ that can overclock as well as an X2 3800+. Probably EE processors don't overclock well nowadays.
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8tvt
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Nov 16 2006, 12:00 PM
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actually it's just nice ~2ghz pair with 256 L2 cache..
just like 1ghz cpu with 4gb ram... for ideal 1ghz setup.. 2gb ram is just nice.. 4gb ram maybe ideal for 3ghz cpu...
same goes to 3800+... if we can highly oc it.. the big L2 cache will give an advantage.. that's why ppl see 3800+ will be great in OC...
i've tried both and merely achieve 2.4-2.5ghz... and feel just the same... unless can try hit 2.8 or more with 3800+... sure win... but it's hard to get though.. need to spend for good mobo,ram,psu,cooler as well... then no budget de.. spending those... better get 4400+ 1mb then...
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