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post Aug 7 2015, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 7 2015, 08:49 AM)
LED is dropping price but CFL is also dropping price. LED can last much longer than CFL, A far as I know the LED require less power to produce the same lumen as CFL. CFLs are sensitive to frequent on/off cycling. Their rated lifetimes of 10,000 hours are reduced in applications where the light is switched on and off very often. CFL takes a while to go to full brightness.

For me, even if the disadvantage of LED is price, but this is is negated by its lifetime. I'm slowly phasing in LED bulb when replacement need. So, my observation is still immature  wink.gif
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CFL will last longer, and lumens/watt is still better on cfl. For led with higher lumens/watt than cfl will be more expensive.
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post Aug 7 2015, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 7 2015, 09:19 AM)
Try get 1 of this. New exciting bulb from philip. 14w produce 100w. 1500lumens.  Brought 6pcs and still testing it in US.

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Yup saw your image before. There are improving, and to get the price down to matchable with CFL brightness will take sometime.

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post Aug 7 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Aug 7 2015, 09:34 AM)
I'm not just looking at the box. Yes, previously the LED is not that good but now it is improving a lot. I searched through 3rd party articles, not manufacturer's itself.

Did you notice the black spot near the electrode of the CFL. This is because high voltage at start-up sends the lamp’s mercury ions hurtling toward the starting electrode, which can destroy the electrode’s coating over time. There are research papers that study how long the bulb last with relation on how frequent the florescent light is switch on/off. This is one of the reason why the CFL lamp did not last as long as the life indicated n the box. For me lifetime on the box is indication only. Unless everyone follow same measurement method, it is not reliable comparison. This is also same for LED lamp. I don't trust what is printed there.

CFL and LED is killed by heat. I agree on this. I've been using LED for about a year now and I have both CFL and LED bulbs in use.
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Lifetime shown on the box is on test lab, and we do not know what are the condition and environment of the test lab. The lifespan hours maybe running nonstop 24x7, and stable voltage, while in real life the frequency of On-Off, input voltage condition, surrounding heat will have impact the lifetime of the bulbs, be it LED, CFL, or incandescent.
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post Aug 7 2015, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 7 2015, 12:37 PM)
What I observe in the western market and their consumer usage, the 100w is not a favour. Instead 60w warm white are more popular and cheaper. They don't like bright light for home. Not like Asian people. Instead 100w like this is more for sturdy lamp.

Another LED in Thailand market. If you see properly the packaging, they state the Watt, Lumens, price, Dimension etc. Same as the western Philip. Their consumer is more informative compare our local.
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Now go all the way to Thailand shopping biggrin.gif Should spend time at their outlet lah.
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 21 2015, 09:43 AM)
You can get the changing bulb pole from ACE. Occasionally saw it in DIY shop.
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or a DIY smile.gif http://pad39a.com/gene/light.html

For my case is a PLC blub, no pole can do, it need some physical strength to pull out the plc light. Then again, plc only need replacement like once is 4-5 years with average 6-8 hours usage. Some climbing still ok.
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post Aug 21 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Aug 21 2015, 09:48 AM)
do you know if ace sell the mechanism alone. at home i got those aluminium extendable post already. now i need to change bulb at 16ft high. my ladder is just 8ft.
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try this diy method

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post Nov 18 2015, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 18 2015, 09:20 AM)
I have been stop using Philip CFL for over 12yrs. I have long discover it is not reliable. 

I using Hitachi and Panasonic which average 2yrs lifetime.
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CFL as in the E47 bulb? The other CFL bulb with external ballast is very reliable lah. Almost 95% of my house bulbs are CFL with external ballast.
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post Nov 18 2015, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 18 2015, 05:08 PM)
Those inside got electronic 1 lor. Very unreliable.

Those external ballast is PLC type. PLC type no electronic. That's why last long.
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The PLC is also sometime called CFL too (to be specific is define as "Non-integrated CFL") don't spoiled the name of PLC lah biggrin.gif
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post Nov 18 2015, 06:27 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Nov 18 2015, 05:35 PM)
Don't no lah. Normally they called it PLC light. If you see the casing, it state PLC light also.
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Not all know is PLC, some light shop seller also confuse. PLL, PLC, T8, T5 are amount most reliable light I used.

 

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