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post Aug 20 2015, 03:00 AM

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Hi, I need some recommendation prior to my acer 4820tg kept having gpu driver problem

1. acer
2. 2k-3k
3. works, maybe some heavy 3d games
4. at least 14 inch

additional info, i somewhat liked how acer keyboard are mapped, and if possible i want at least 3 usb port, the current laptop, 4820tg i have now has 4 usb port which is quite the legend laptop i guess

thank you in advance

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post Aug 20 2015, 02:13 PM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Aug 20 2015, 05:01 AM)
Inspiron 7447 i7 quad core, gtx 850m
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Erm, what about from acer, any suggestion?
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post Sep 7 2015, 08:52 AM

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Hi, can I ask if asus A/X 555LJ notebook is good?

I don't know the specific model name but the specs should be like this
core i7
nvidia geforce920m
4gb ddr3L ram

From what I've read the spec, it does looks good but I'm wondering what's the price in lowyat and is there a variant of this model equipped with touchscreen? and what is the model number?

My budget is around 2.5-3k for now, might go higher but depends

Thank you in advance

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post Sep 7 2015, 10:14 AM

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I happened to research about mobile gpu and gtx is far more superior compared to the newer geforce M series. But I also have quite the strict keyboard layout criteria :/

I often use those home, pg up, pg dn and end key as separate button, I mean I prefer them to be separate compared to have using the fn key to use them :/
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post Sep 7 2015, 10:39 AM

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Yes, that's the thing, I'm finding a mid range mobile gpu, not some entry level cause I might play some heavy 3d based game, also I do some 3d modelling as well.

I am using acer 4820tg with a busted gpu now running switchable bios mode with generic windows standard vga driver.

I really do liked acer's keyboard layout especially this 4820tg because the home cluster keys are separate compared to dell's and they put them to the right side of the keyboard for easy access with just one hand operation

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post Sep 7 2015, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:22 AM)
mid range... shud be gtx950m ddr3... that is mid-end... high entry is gx960m ddr5..
how much ur budget again?  hmm.gif
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Currently 2.5k, but I somewhat wanna wait for payment from someone and can go up to 4k budget range. The problem is, I still dunno when I'm going to get the payment though, so I'm surveying for laptops under 3k and around 4k range but not exceeding by about more than 500. I remembered my 4820tg was around 2.6k back in around 2010 I think, what's more this one used to be mid range too. So confusing, I also just saw msi ge60 having high temp issue during gaming on garage sale reason of selling and I wanna avoid high temp when its on full power like ge60 too sad.gif

QUOTE(myway1985 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:22 AM)
7447 lo
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Dell 7447 right? I'm sorry, the way home cluster put as function on the arrow key is a turn off to me sad.gif
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post Sep 7 2015, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:37 AM)
msi is very-very expensive... did u c acer v nitro black edition? gtx960m
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Yes, I saw some brochure too, min is about 5k is it? You mean considering to go for acer v nitro edition? The spec data is good with that low price it's I think the best value for your bucks, but I don't know the latest price now is it 4k or 3.3k?

I also considering for cheapest illegear z5? type, but the 500gb ssd, it is good just that I'm not that hardcore gamer anymore, for the long run I think its like a 50/50 worth and not only

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:38 AM)
i suggest, you wait... there will be a new release soon
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i wonder how long I have to wait for the new release, any ideas :/? I have spare laptop from my mom over here but it is somewhat uncomfortable to use a laptop that will be used by someone again in the future considering I got privacy thingy and lots of personal files (more than 100gb I think). Also I can't do some 3d modelling mainly for 3d printing on this 4820tg due to the hardware rejects the official driver sad.gif, if not, I would've been stayed with this current laptop I'm having sad.gif

It breaks my heart that this 4820tg breaks suddenly sad.gif
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post Sep 7 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ Sep 7 2015, 11:44 AM)
too picky de... i leave on to u...2500rm cant get anything now... thanks to jibby
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Sorry for being picky, sad.gif I'm considering the ease of use for the keyboard too, like last time I used a while lenovo of a friend, accessing the f1-f12 requires you to press the fn key if not it will trigger the laptop hardware function which is quite the thing I don't like, non-standard (from my point of view) layout

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post Sep 7 2015, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 12:03 PM)
by oct shud starting hv new model x much.. ideal is nov-dec... by end ths year... cz this mnth usually shipping and incoming...  brows.gif  pattern always da same...

illegear z5. yes.. dats da best, hardcore or not.. still looks good.. but jz wasted if u not fully utilized its potential.. acer v nitro is good bang for bucks too... lighter.. improvement on model it self... cz previous acer v nitro gtx850m have heat issue.. but new version seems much better... 

for personal things... the best way is external hard disk... keep it in there for time being...

as for now.. b patient.. and wait.. just a word of wisdom, choices is nt there yet.. so b patient.. else, gonna regret da nxt day..  laugh.gif consider of the price too.. and current notebook is not same as last time.. now markets a lots with ulv processor...
its ok to be picky.. its your choice...
btw... lenovo i tot can straight away press f1-f12 keys without fn.. only hp need press fn.. nvr knew lenovo also need too..  hmm.gif
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I didn't know the pattern is like this, but another problem with newest model that just arrived is its usage, performance, temp and some other things, more like real world usage performance. Surely the msi ge60 probably has the best spec along with its ads but turned out that the real world performance it generates heat a lot during playing games. November is just about 2 months away, more like I have to wait up to 4 months for these new updates on laptops. I guess I just continue using my mom's laptop to do 3d modelling works and main works too sad.gif

For example in comparison with my 2nd gen timelinex and 3rd gen timelinex, I think 4820 probably superior compared to the 4830. I never really check the benchmark and differences actually, just my opinion

There are some lenovo models that needs you to press the fn key to use f1-f12 keys, I don't know the specific model, but the fn is orange coloured on the keyboard

A friend of mine, literally got several non acer gaming type laptop, somewhat literally told me to stay away from acer. That's why I'm trying to turn away from acer. Been an acer laptop user for over 10 years already by the way with several model used

I sometimes tend to forget bringing along the ext hdd

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post Sep 7 2015, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 12:23 PM)
well, it just certain model need to avoid.. no matter wat brand.. must b certain model need to be avoided... so far... i did not have problems with acer... bought it in mid 2010... and still kicking until now. even play dota 2 smoothly (low setting). while.. my asus bought at early 2011, and died early 2015, this year..

im not sure what model your friend buy.. hopefully he dont mind to share which model and wats da prob... so dat dat model can be avoided.. not boicott the brand.. as on first page... each brand, have their own defective model. People tend to generalize when it comes to brands- If his/her notebook sucks, then everything from that brand sucks. This is of course, inaccurate.
One has to understand that there will always be lemon units in electronic devices. Whether a notebook lasts or not depends on a little bit of luck, but a lot on user care!
Even the most premium brands out there are not free from defects.

quoted from my very dear friend : lil kiasu: "Cheap no good, good no cheap."

you usage gonna heavy and rendering on 3D modelling.. games related wif 3D.. so.. it put much stress on gpu.. and need supported from cpu as well..
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I did ask him 2 days ago, "in terms of gpu, which one is better for long term usage in term of driver supports?" he replied "windows = nvidia, linux = ati/amd, but most storekeeper replied to me that acer's the highest turn in for repairs compared to toshiba and fujitsu", also he said last time acer battery sucks and dies after about a year, this one is true for my 4820tg, probably because I didn't unplug the battery

That is one very good wise word... hahaha, but that's why I'm going for a mid end performance type laptop so I'm able to use it for quite a long time compared to low end actually. The poison's everywhere about these brands and models suggestion sad.gif

Not really very heavy 3d rendering for the modelling but it does helps in every way as well, I will be using blender, meshmixer, 123d design and openscad, but it does help though especiallyt he mid end or entry high gpu type
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post Sep 7 2015, 12:46 PM

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I probably consider looking into either illegear z5 or acer v nitro, I think both having almost same price is it?

Furthermore, I tend to prefer ati cards compared to nvidia in the past, but now I don't even have a choice if I want to have ati x intel processor.

All the more reason why also because one of my friend last time had a second hand laptop, I think it's an acer too, running on nvidia but there were no driver support, and also after updating the driver I think he got issues with it, thus making him unable to play new games requiring newer driver version
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post Sep 7 2015, 01:09 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 12:47 PM)
its better invest for high entry gpu  and pure quad core..  long terms usage.. acer has highest turn in for repairs due to lots of customer using acer as well... fujitsu and toshiba.. see their market in malaysia.. kinda not that popular..  how u wan get a correct data? pretty hard isnt it..

well, wat ur fren said is really funny.. i guess he doesn't know anything much about mobile computing...  dont forget, you amd manufacture 2 things (cpu and gpu) while intel and nvdia is 2 different entities.  so, you cant say windows = nvdia. linux = amd. cz.. windows can be using amd processor and graphic card as well.. and intel can run sync with amd. cz its either; OS + amd cpu + ati gpu  or OS + intel + ati or OS + intel + nvdia

there is always different with nvdia and amd.. to be conclude for time being... most games favor to nvidia card.. so its good to invest in green camp... while red camp suffering a lot. but im not sure when will they bounce back especially recent scandal being expose when nvdia purposely killing gaming industry by make sure gaming industry invest in their card compare to amd.. amd is cheap and gives competitive performance.. but until today... i still feel disappointment with red camp.. since release of bulldozer and llano architecture.
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Yes, the data is quite hard to get considering msia actually unlike western that has a lot of choices, but these choices also delivered by the storekeeper purposely limiting the option, for example desktop gpu I've been surveying a lot in msia is mostly asus, gigabyte, sapphire, but I used HIS last time starting around 2007 till 2013 where it died. Gotta say AMD mid end gpu is good and I'm able to play borderlands 2 in full quality that time too with full 1080p resolution on my 2007-2008 gaming rig equipment. Now it's dead due to bios and had to downgrade to geforce 8850 something, the old 4 figure geforce

What he meant was if you're going to use windows better use nvidia, if linux better use ati. Even with this 4820tg gpu, playing assassins creed up to black flag, I just have to update the driver and I'm good to go, while unity, with bad stutter but just the same, I just update the driver and basically I'm able to play. I never used nvidia so their driver support for old hardware is trivial to me especially on mobile gpu lines, not to mention average future games it can support for example can support up to games 5 years in the future but at that range the setting has to be low for fluid gameplay

QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 12:51 PM)
yes... but acer v nitro is cheaper than illegear z5... 3.3k if not mistaken...

i was amd fanboys.. i love their techn.. but, past few years... im kinda disappointed wif amd... not much improvement..  thats why i say.. if u buy notebook.. its better invest in intel + nvdia.

talking about driver issue... u buy low end gpu card... but wanna ply games dat require mid end or high entry card and running it in low setting.... of cz sometimes compatibility problems doh.gif
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Yes, another main reason why I tend to go mid to entry high gpu performance laptop in the first place, I might play games. Further more I also might do some other things requires intensive computing power.

Between both, v nitro and illegear z5, can you give me suggestion like pros and cons maybe? =)
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post Sep 7 2015, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Sep 7 2015, 02:42 PM)
no... if windows.. either use intel ready gpu or nvdia... both can... linux doesnt need graphic card... mostly.. doesnt need any... integrated gpu is good to go.. u not really wan play games on linux platform isnt it.. unless, you generating password cracking using gpu for security purpose. sometimes, driver cause games to crash a lot.. updating driver sometimes does not gv any significant different. it depends...
v nitro is much lighter than z5... and these 2 notebook have different class.. 1 is premium class, 1 is standard premier class...

if have budged more than 4k.. to be exact 4.3k.. for surely, illegear z5 is good for investment. good service after sales, best money value and its customised notebook. you might want ssd for the laptop.... so can be add on.. and many features can be added because it is customised. its comes with freeDos, so you can install OS on your own.. well, u know how isnt it  laugh.gif  save moneyflies.gif ma.... still, it is reliable notebook....

v nitro on the other hand is standard premier class cz its budged notebook... everything is fix.. cant customised it.. warranty support seems slightly improve... but not yet as good as illegear or dell.  still pretty reliable somehow to me. as long as still under warranty.. i have no worries and wount spend $$ while snd for repair or wat.. as long as buying from authorize dealer. but it comes with OS.. so, kinda "plug and play" style...
since these 2 comes with great different in price... its up to your budget...
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Sigh, when I thought wanna go for z5, I just realised it's a freedos laptop and 4.4k is just for the hardware only. I could go with illegear z5 freedos like a refugee win7 users but the win10 upgrades are only for selective win7 only. And win7 soon will become like winxp that eventually dies out slowly.

Spec wise,

v17 nitro got 17" full hd display with optical drive, price is unknown for now, the optical bay can be changed to secondary sata but like you said, everything's fixed, windows os included

z5; somewhat customizable (practically new to me) and might get me using this one for long term but it's freedos, most likely gotta be a refugee in win7, uses ssd, no optical

It is so confusing which one rclxub.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 02:47 PM

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Then, I think I will wait till the end of this year to see if got fancy spec or not. One of my friend also says you better wait.

Just that hopefully I'm able to keep it till the day comes sad.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(DS_Legacy @ Sep 8 2015, 02:53 PM)
Just bear with the old laptop. New laptops in kambing soon. They should be released in 3-4 months time.  biggrin.gif
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:24 PM

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That's the thing, I guess I will wait then, but as of now maybe i really do need help if some of you are able to get me a gpu bios dump for acer 4820tg, it might be worth the shot to try reflashing the gpu bios from any 4820tg that's still good
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post Sep 8 2015, 03:55 PM

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So... if anyone got access to another 4820tg, I really need the gpu bios dump, worth the shot though sad.gif

DDR4 already on desktop and how long has it been in DDR4?

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