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TSRezkt
post Aug 5 2015, 02:03 PM, updated 11y ago

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I just got a new laptop and having experienced damaging my old laptop's battery before, I want to take proper care of my laptop battery this time. The battery of my old laptop is not the same anymore ever since the laptop shut down during gaming as I did not plugged in the charger.

So I dont dare to game with battery inserted anymore. Since I won't be taking the laptop anywhere atm, can I remove the battery and use the laptop plugged in during gaming at all times for a few weeks? Or do I need to use the battery sometimes too? And if I have to, will removing the battery and then reinserting it many many times do damage to the battery? There are so many contradicting infos on internet that I don't know which to follow.
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post Aug 5 2015, 02:07 PM

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why dont you get the docking system instead. you can dock your laptop without the need to remove your laptop battery

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post Aug 5 2015, 02:16 PM

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the newer and better li-ion battery of today's laptop (and phone as well) is "clever" enough, can plug in 24/7 and unnecessary to remove it. they are designed to be in the laptop, and there are actually quite a lot of new laptops come with irremovable batteries.

if still worry that something might go wrong with the battery in the long run, u can remove it since the laptop will be in indoor and sockets are available most of the times.

however, it is always good that at least once a month, use the battery without socket plug in, then recharge the battery so that the battery life could be prolonged.

source: cousin working in Dell as engineer
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post Aug 5 2015, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(Rezkt @ Aug 5 2015, 02:03 PM)
I just got a new laptop and having experienced damaging my old laptop's battery before, I want to take proper care of my laptop battery this time. The battery of my old laptop is not the same anymore ever since the laptop shut down during gaming as I did not plugged in the charger.

So I dont dare to game with battery inserted anymore. Since I won't be taking the laptop anywhere atm, can I remove the battery and use the laptop plugged in during gaming at all times for a few weeks? Or do I need to use the battery sometimes too? And if I have to, will removing the battery and then reinserting it many many times do damage to the battery? There are so many contradicting infos on internet that I don't know which to follow.
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I've been doing this since I got my working laptop 3-4 years back. Battery still works like it's new, fresh out of factory. I only plug it back in when needed.

I was issued the laptop at the same time as my ex-colleague. The result is obvious - runtime on battery is longer on my laptop.
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post Aug 5 2015, 03:41 PM

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Not really.

As geforce88 has said.

Just plug it in and use. The battery has a circuit to to keep it operating in optimum conditions.

Just use the battery once in a while. Also, battery prefers to be charged as soon as possible so dont wait for it to be in the red zone to be charged even 80 percent it is best you charge it as to reduce the charge and discharge cycle thus improving battery longevity.

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post Aug 6 2015, 01:18 AM

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having the battery on the notebook is ideal in case of sudden power disruption and you can continue to work / play on what your are doing.
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post Aug 7 2015, 04:23 PM

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they are meant to be used but sadly current batts are not as good of old especially those in thin and light laptop where weight and space taken priority. Expect to have to buy replacement in year two if you use your laptop of the grid often. I suppsoe different rules applies to gamers where the laptop runs at full power more often for extended period of time. Different manufacturers have different approaches to batt management. Not knowing your make and model its not easy to give specific recommendation. If the batt is removeable then i suppose its just better to keep the charge at 60 - 70% level and keep it off the machine if you use the laptop plugged in most time.
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:53 AM

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While today's laptop's battery is clever enough not to overcharge, you still need to be wary of the heat that battery is gonna get when you play games on your laptop. Heat from your laptop is surely going to shorten your laptop battery's lifespan. That's why when doing something that will increase the temperature of your laptop like playing games, IMHO it's better to remove your battery. My 4 year old HP DV6 which is constantly running at 70C - 95C has killed 2 batteries so far.
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post Aug 8 2015, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 8 2015, 12:53 AM)
While today's laptop's battery is clever enough not to overcharge, you still need to be wary of the heat that battery is gonna get when you play games on your laptop. Heat from your laptop is surely going to shorten your laptop battery's lifespan. That's why when doing something that will increase the temperature of your laptop like playing games, IMHO it's better to remove your battery. My 4 year old HP DV6 which is constantly running at 70C - 95C has killed 2 batteries so far.
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Lol, my old DV6 same 4 years, battery still running fine but the charge it holds is less.
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post Aug 8 2015, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Aug 8 2015, 12:55 AM)
Lol, my old DV6 same 4 years, battery still running fine but the charge it holds is less.
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Cool! What's the normal temperature for your laptop? Mine if I play games or do lotsa work, the heat at the on/off switch would be damn hot.. u cannot touch it for more than few seconds. I have reapplied thermal paste several times but the result is still the same.. plus my laptop fan something doesn't work tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2015, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 8 2015, 01:06 AM)
Cool! What's the normal temperature for your laptop? Mine if I play games or do lotsa work, the heat at the on/off switch would be damn hot.. u cannot touch it for more than few seconds. I have reapplied thermal paste several times but the result is still the same.. plus my laptop fan something doesn't work  tongue.gif
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Normal uses watching movie etc would be around ~60 celcius.

The only maintenance i did was before warranty expired send it back to let them clean the fan but dont know whether did they change the thermal paste tongue.gif

Gaming would hover around 85 celcius. But since old lappy i disable the boost so it hovers around 70 - 80 celcius.
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post Aug 8 2015, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(AthrunIJ @ Aug 8 2015, 01:11 AM)
Normal uses watching movie etc would be around ~60 celcius.

The only maintenance i did was before warranty expired send it back to let them clean the fan but dont know whether did they change the thermal paste tongue.gif

Gaming would hover around 85 celcius. But since old lappy i disable the boost so it hovers around 70 - 80 celcius.
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Awesome man. Nowadays even when I play movies, temperature would shoot to 90C. I don't dare to play any game anymore because scared it will burn my lappy tongue.gif. Furthermore my gc is kaput already. Everytime after I installed the gc driver, I cannot load windows.
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QUOTE(imin @ Aug 8 2015, 01:15 AM)
Awesome man. Nowadays even when I play movies, temperature would shoot to 90C. I don't dare to play any game anymore because scared it will burn my lappy tongue.gif. Furthermore my gc is kaput already. Everytime after I installed the gc driver, I cannot load windows.
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I see. I can say DV6 has been a good buy even though it is quite pricey compared to other brands. I'm one satisfied customer. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 8 2015, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(geforce88 @ Aug 5 2015, 02:16 PM)
the newer and better li-ion battery of today's laptop (and phone as well) is "clever" enough, can plug in 24/7 and unnecessary to remove it. they are designed to be in the laptop, and there are actually quite a lot of new laptops come with irremovable batteries.

if still worry that something might go wrong with the battery in the long run, u can remove it since the laptop will be in indoor and sockets are available most of the times.

however, it is always good that at least once a month, use the battery without socket plug in, then recharge the battery so that the battery life could be prolonged.

source: cousin working in Dell as engineer
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nod.gif exactly... but as i understand, plug in power to notebook without battery is actually not a good practice... last time, we did debate on this matter... but at same time.. for notebook that release lots of heat... the heat actually kills the battery itself sweat.gif

 

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