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TSchar_les
post Aug 3 2015, 12:12 AM, updated 8 months ago

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Hi all sifus here ~ i just changed the myvi stock exhaust to cat back from Supercircuit ~ just wondering, is such change increases the fuel consumption ? lots ? blink.gif any ideas ? but, yeah, i realize it might be hurting, just wondering how significant it is going to be.

im still trying my first full tank ron 97 (pump stopped automatically), just wanna prepare myself mentally, if worsens, might consider sell it though ~ sweat.gif sweat.gif

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post Aug 3 2015, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 3 2015, 12:12 AM)
Hi all sifus here ~ i just changed the myvi stock exhaust to cat back from Supercircuit ~ just wondering, is such change increases the fuel consumption ? lots ?  blink.gif  any ideas ? but, yeah, i realize it might be hurting, just wondering how significant it is going to be.

im still trying my first full tank ron 97 (pump stopped automatically), just wanna prepare myself mentally, if worsens, might consider sell it though ~  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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There's a saying. If you're worried about fuel consumption, remain stock. A car is only efficient as it's tuning. Assuming the diameter is larger, if the pressure is too low, you'll be stepping on your accelerator pedal more just to get it moving.

There has been instances of a properly tuned car with some basic mods achieving better efficiency. My ex-2003 Vios, god bless her soul, gave me better efficiency after tuning. Without the tuning, it was worse than stock. Ahhh the days of chasing WHP on a puny 1.5 NA engine laugh.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 3 2015, 12:12 AM)
Hi all sifus here ~ i just changed the myvi stock exhaust to cat back from Supercircuit ~ just wondering, is such change increases the fuel consumption ? lots ?  blink.gif  any ideas ? but, yeah, i realize it might be hurting, just wondering how significant it is going to be.

im still trying my first full tank ron 97 (pump stopped automatically), just wanna prepare myself mentally, if worsens, might consider sell it though ~  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Fuel consumption = lots of factors haha
Best is you monitor yourself driving the same style running the same routes and see how it goes
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post Aug 3 2015, 01:47 PM

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QUOTE(McFD2R @ Aug 3 2015, 09:54 AM)
There's a saying. If you're worried about fuel consumption, remain stock. A car is only efficient as it's tuning. Assuming the diameter is larger, if the pressure is too low, you'll be stepping on your accelerator pedal more just to get it moving.

There has been instances of a properly tuned car with some basic mods achieving better efficiency. My ex-2003 Vios, god bless her soul, gave me better efficiency after tuning. Without the tuning, it was worse than stock. Ahhh the days of chasing WHP on a puny 1.5 NA engine  laugh.gif
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hmm.gif hmm.gif how much it cost to tune ~ lol ~ i have been suspecting o2 sensor (despite no blinking) ~ lol
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post Aug 3 2015, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 3 2015, 10:32 AM)
Fuel consumption = lots of factors haha
Best is you monitor yourself driving the same style running the same routes and see how it goes
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yeah... still monitoring, finding excuses to drive around ~ sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Aug 3 2015, 09:56 PM

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You changed the whole set or certain part only?

Interested in upgrading my exhaust system too, but still unsure which shop. Supercircuit price is quite "premium" for me.
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post Aug 4 2015, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Aug 3 2015, 09:56 PM)
You changed the whole set or certain part only?

Interested in upgrading my exhaust system too, but still unsure which shop. Supercircuit  price is quite "premium" for me.
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i changed the extractor few months back b4 the recent, same brand. Before this, my foreman informed me that my muffler sound empty with louder vibration.. (ngooongggg... ngooongggggg ~ something like this). tick tick tock tock for like 2 months, checked and considering those outside exhaust shop,yeah, they are pretty affordable, like 600 - 700 you can get full line pipe with stainless steels.

Then, heard some bad story about the materials that they used, thinner, wielding skills... bla bla bla ~ swt, k lor, 1 shot settle with supercircuit, peace of mind.But, problem is this month eat grass cry.gif cry.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 01:29 AM

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But super circuit sometimes their prices not fixed one

I enquire before custom cat back exhaust they quoted 980

Few months later i ask again they say 1800.. I asked them last time not 980, they said this model of vehicle never have custom cat back below 1.5k
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post Aug 10 2015, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Aug 10 2015, 01:29 AM)
But super circuit sometimes their prices not fixed one

I enquire before custom cat back exhaust they quoted 980

Few months later i ask again they say 1800.. I asked them last time not 980, they said this model of vehicle never have custom cat back below 1.5k
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oh, but their price is likely at premium, for my case, just the extractor alone cost RM 600 + ~ mayb the guy answered wrongly? but, currently they are charging additional gst 6% on the quoted price. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 12:41 PM)
oh, but their price is likely at premium, for my case, just the extractor alone cost RM 600 + ~ mayb the guy answered wrongly? but, currently they are charging additional gst 6% on the quoted price.  rclxub.gif
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That price is normal due to the material being stainless steel 304 and TIG welding (they used this for marketing A LOT). No matter how premium also, it still won't beat another shop's pricing of extractor stainless steel, 2 mid boxes (so called stainless steel), normal steel piping and stainless steel muffler at 2.8k till >3k sweat.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 12:41 PM)
oh, but their price is likely at premium, for my case, just the extractor alone cost RM 600 + ~ mayb the guy answered wrongly? but, currently they are charging additional gst 6% on the quoted price.  rclxub.gif
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I got ask 4-2-1 extractor also

1.3k i think..installation not included
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post Aug 10 2015, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(shinjite @ Aug 10 2015, 02:05 PM)
That price is normal due to the material being stainless steel 304 and TIG welding (they used this for marketing A LOT). No matter how premium also, it still won't beat another shop's pricing of extractor stainless steel, 2 mid boxes (so called stainless steel), normal steel piping and stainless steel muffler at 2.8k till >3k sweat.gif
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exactly, i read the same sentence on and on ~ stainless steel, TIG welding, same goes to all the exhaust shop ~ lol
yeah, but so far S circuit comment is still acceptable ~

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post Aug 10 2015, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Aug 10 2015, 02:26 PM)
I got ask 4-2-1 extractor also

1.3k i think..installation not included
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wow ~ just that 4 pipes cost 1.3k? what car you driving btw ? blink.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 03:20 PM)
wow ~ just that 4 pipes cost 1.3k? what car you driving btw ?  blink.gif
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Swift doh.gif

Aftermarket parts exp like hell
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 03:20 PM)
wow ~ just that 4 pipes cost 1.3k? what car you driving btw ?  blink.gif
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Because it is custom made with again, stainless steel 304 with TIG welding mandrel bend biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(calvinooi1234 @ Aug 10 2015, 11:16 AM)
i changed by savvy center muffler and switch from r3 muffler corroting and holed , to jasm1 n1 straight flow , for my manual savvy,

drive proper when use r3 muffler can go 70km...........

now jasma n1 muffler just 40+ km for 1 fuel bar . rm10+ per bar petrol
i suspect engine oil , but i have changed new engine oil semi synthetic from shell petrol station ,
i also confuse , is it this terrible?
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no comment hmm.gif need pro with savvy on this ~ pipe too wide? im suspecting whether mine having same issue, myvi using 1.6" diameter pipe. doh.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Aug 10 2015, 03:21 PM)
Swift doh.gif

Aftermarket parts exp like hell
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yeah, heard its parts are double price of the myvi equivalent. laugh.gif but, rumor says swift's thickness is double the myvi too.
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 04:16 PM)
yeah, heard its parts are double price of the myvi equivalent.  laugh.gif  but, rumor says swift's thickness is double the myvi too.
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Parts double true la the price

Thickness double lol not true
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post Aug 10 2015, 05:12 PM

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why myvi masuk minyak 97?? Just wonder sleep.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Aug 10 2015, 05:12 PM)
why myvi masuk minyak 97?? Just wonder sleep.gif
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nothing right or wrong, just "mentally" or "in fact" it is more powerful.
For me, i tried and feel that it is more powerful when i pump Ron 97 ~ and mine is a weekend car, so, still affordable at this juncture, within monthly budget for fuel. + cleaning fuel burn, i read from an article, which leads to some sort engine protection.

Just my belief, so dont shoot me notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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post Aug 10 2015, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 06:36 PM)
nothing right or wrong, just "mentally" or "in fact" it is more powerful.
For me, i tried and feel that it is more powerful when i pump Ron 97 ~ and mine is a weekend car, so, still affordable at this juncture, within monthly budget for fuel. + cleaning fuel burn, i read from an article, which leads to some sort engine protection.

Just my belief, so dont shoot me  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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No shoot lah...just wonder as I thought you pump it as daily use. 97 is alright since it's a weekend car, what's your favourite petrol brand? Many ppl of lowyat net suggest bhp biggrin.gif
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post Aug 10 2015, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Aug 10 2015, 06:46 PM)
No shoot lah...just wonder as I thought you pump it as daily use. 97 is alright since it's a weekend car, what's your favourite petrol brand? Many ppl of lowyat net suggest bhp biggrin.gif
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again, up to your belief ~ lol laugh.gif
im using Petronas Ron 97 ~ tried Shell Ron 97 before, but "feel" like weaker than Petronas', so, so far still stick to Petronas. yawn.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 10 2015, 06:51 PM)
again, up to your belief ~ lol  laugh.gif
im using Petronas Ron 97 ~ tried Shell Ron 97 before, but "feel" like weaker than Petronas', so, so far still stick to Petronas.  yawn.gif
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I'm using petronas as well, (95). It gives me better fc.
Actually I feel the 97 (pumped it few times before) gives better vroommm vroommm feeling, but it's costly for me to pump it as daily use sweat.gif
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post Aug 11 2015, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(heavensea @ Aug 10 2015, 07:03 PM)
I'm using petronas as well, (95). It gives me better fc.
Actually I feel the 97 (pumped it few times before) gives better vroommm vroommm feeling, but it's costly for me to pump it as daily use  sweat.gif
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yeah, i felt the pain when i pump it for the first time, but after some time, still alright, with mindset i "sayang" the car, give her the best i could cool2.gif
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QUOTE(char_les @ Aug 3 2015, 12:12 AM)
Hi all sifus here ~ i just changed the myvi stock exhaust to cat back from Supercircuit ~ just wondering, is such change increases the fuel consumption ? lots ?  blink.gif  any ideas ? but, yeah, i realize it might be hurting, just wondering how significant it is going to be.

im still trying my first full tank ron 97 (pump stopped automatically), just wanna prepare myself mentally, if worsens, might consider sell it though ~  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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so TS, after 3 yrs, what is ur feedback?
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post Jan 12 2019, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 5 2019, 11:12 AM)
so TS, after 3 yrs, what is ur feedback?
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lolx, slightly slower pickup unless you wanna rev.
Sold it and the car too and get a stock honda rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 12 2019, 12:22 AM

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Icic. Bec I am not considering exhaust change just the supercircuit extractor for fuel save
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post Jan 12 2019, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 12 2019, 12:22 AM)
Icic. Bec I am not considering exhaust change just the supercircuit extractor for fuel save
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i see, it's fine. i tried the pairing before. feel slightly smoother flow for normal driving. nod.gif
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post Jan 12 2019, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(char_les @ Jan 12 2019, 12:40 AM)
i see, it's fine. i tried the pairing before. feel slightly smoother flow for normal driving. nod.gif
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Why did u change to honda. Its still a good car for market and city parking narrow spaces all. I have honda city too. Parked at home after 4 yrs only clocked 10k lol
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Aug 10 2015, 07:03 PM)
I'm using petronas as well, (95). It gives me better fc.
Actually I feel the 97 (pumped it few times before) gives better vroommm vroommm feeling, but it's costly for me to pump it as daily use  sweat.gif
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if you wanna know the truth,do a blind test;
when your tank is nearly empty next time.ask one of your friend to help you pump the car to full but not revealing about whether its 95 or 97,after you drove it a while and had a mental guess of yourself. only then ask your friend to reveal the fuel he put in ,try a few time to cancel out lucky guess,and be honest with yourself,avoid Stockholm syndrome
i did this challenge to so many of my friends who insist they really felt ron97 was better,once do blind test,they can't felt any different and admiting just tembak at guessing at last,the different if any,was minuscule
don't waste your money on placebo effect

This post has been edited by Valentino46: Jan 12 2019, 08:57 AM
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post Jan 13 2019, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(Jedi @ Jan 12 2019, 12:49 AM)
Why did u change to honda. Its still a good car for market and city parking narrow spaces all. I have honda city too. Parked at home after 4 yrs only clocked 10k lol
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More for image building.
Stopped burning cash on modding and trying after market engine oil.
So, now, just drive and service, pay. Most im thinking adding bodykit. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Valentino46 @ Jan 12 2019, 05:19 AM)
if you wanna know the truth,do a blind test;
when your tank is nearly empty next time.ask one of your friend to help you pump the car to full but not revealing about whether its 95 or 97,after you drove it a while and had a mental guess of yourself. only then ask your friend to reveal the fuel he put in ,try a few time to cancel out lucky guess,and be honest with yourself,avoid Stockholm syndrome
i did this challenge to so many of my friends who insist they really felt ron97 was better,once do blind test,they can't felt any different and admiting just tembak at guessing at last,the different if any,was minuscule
don't waste your money on placebo effect
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First they have to have the basic knowledge of y the different RONs. It's just to prevent knocking in higher compression cars. Goddamn it's not rocket fuel.

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QUOTE(mojo1ne @ Jan 13 2019, 11:21 AM)
First they have to have the basic knowledge of y the different RONs. It's just to prevent knocking in higher compression cars. Goddamn it's not rocket fuel.
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many people rather choose to just believe than to understand the actual mechanism

 

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