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horns
post Aug 13 2015, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 13 2015, 04:40 PM)
this is my security setup......
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the combos take care of certain areas, but maybe it's too much for average users to swallow. an easier way is just switch to linux for internet-based activities. a boot from linux liveusb with persistence enabled should be good enough for most common usage.

all in all, the idea to have these tools protecting us actively or passively is good. however imo it's more practical to learn to have and train self consciousness and awareness about potential threats, and find the balance between usability and security, depending on needs, e.g. for work, i do my stuff in virtual machines, running windows defender and emet, with bitdefender set up as manual scan engine. my setup is minimalist. my data is stored elsewhere, offline and online.
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post Aug 13 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(Moogle Stiltzkin @ Aug 13 2015, 07:33 PM)
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right. the main purpose of getting a computer is to let us do things with it. however too much emphasis on protection is not a good idea, because you end up wasting system resources and creating more stress to the system than necessary (especially for lower end pcs) a good sum of money has to be spent to maintain subscriptions, if free versions are not sufficient to meet requirements. it's like you're the owner of a shop. you hire security guards, set up all sort of security tolls, check points, and what not in your shop, that you need to go through all that before you can reach your office. and you're paying for all the costs, bills, and their salaries. ridiculous, right?

that was why i think it's better to train ourselves to become a careful user that can adapt to ever changing threats, offline and online, using the right tools accordingly. it's far more sustainable in the long run imo.

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post Aug 13 2015, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Aug 13 2015, 09:49 PM)
There are normal users, and there are paranoid users as well. biggrin.gif
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it's just personal preferences.

in a connected world today, a user should know that the same way they use computers in few years ago cannot apply well now. (well some still survive, like backups) the same will happen a few years later. it's not just about computers now. the same thing applies to our phones, tablets, and the next god-knows-what tech stuff that will become part of our lives. do we treat them equally? no. most don't. why? it's the mindset of different physical shapes and size carry different levels of security. we all know it's not true smile.gif


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post Aug 18 2015, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(raynman @ Aug 17 2015, 08:03 PM)
I have installed Avira Free Antivirus today.

It automatically disabled Windows Defender after installation.

This is good because I don't want to keep getting Virus Definition Updates for Windows Defender during Windows Update.

It has a browser safety extension for my Google Chrome browser too. smile.gif

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er that's how av's real-time protection works, i.e. having latest av definitions pulled from servers once they're available. these definitions are cumulative, meaning they are small in each individual package.

in your case, the difference is just that windows defender updates are logged in windows updates, the other av don't.

 

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