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 Vox or Roland...? hmmm..., Which one to choose...

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post Nov 11 2006, 01:57 PM, updated 19y ago

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Hi,
Im thinking of getting a small practise amp for home practise. So far Ive listed Vox AD30VT and Roland Cube 30 as my top choices.

Any comments/views/advices on the amps? Or any other suggestions? Please shoot. I play rock, Hard rock, pop etc... but not jazz.

Also, for home recording purposes... what amp do you prefer (chugging the guitar -> amp -> pc recording) ... is that possible? Also, I dont know if the above amps have the mic input for sing along. sad.gif (Wanting to start learning someting on home recording blush.gif )

EDIT: Forgot to add:- I have Washburn N2 nuno battencourt electric. 2 humbuckers (washburn 621 stock hum at neck + Bill Lawrence L500 at bridge), Alder body
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post Nov 12 2006, 06:56 PM

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sweet guitar u have...
what amp u using currently?
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post Nov 12 2006, 07:37 PM

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Thanks. I really dig the washburn Nuno series smile.gif
at the moment, I dont have any amp. Just chug the guitar cable jack into my pc sound card. blush.gif
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post Nov 12 2006, 07:46 PM

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For amp I vouch for the Vox AD amp.

For recording, you're probably better off with a Toneport UX1, which is about RM450. It has a mic input, an instrument input (With preamps for guitar and bass) and 2 line inputs. It's an USB interface, so you need a comp in order to use it. smile.gif
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I third the Vox amp. It has an amazing amount of features AND gives a fantastic sound........
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post Nov 13 2006, 12:45 AM

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hey threadstarter,

i vouch for the vox too. smile.gif because i own it. no seriously, check out both amps and see which one u like most.

for home recording, i wld like to share a gem of a website.

www.tweakheadz.com

brilliant site.

i think recording wise, u can get a PCI audio interface. somewhere along the lines of m-audio/e-mu and so on.

but really. dont take my word for it. visit the tweakheadz website. it'll teach you from ground up.

btw, i wldnt recommend a usb interface...due to it's speed. uhm..a lot is explained at the site on why usb 1 isnt the way to go. unless the toneport is usb 2.0.

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post Nov 13 2006, 06:12 AM

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Thanks guys/gals for all your replies.

I guess Vox AD30VT wins hands down over Roland Cube 30 (3-0). Just read the thread on Vox ADxxVT owners. Well... what can I say, seems Vox valvetronic amps are very popular with LYN guitarists. rclxms.gif

Thanks for the infos on home recordings too. I need to read more and learn (starting from A-B-C of) home recording. Home recording looks like fun biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2006, 06:59 AM

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roland Cube 15 and 30 has been discontinued.
there are new models now, Cube 15X, 20X and 30X.

both vox and roland have line-in for recordings.
sound well, that one you have to listen for yourself.
but price wise, the Cubes win.

as for mic input, the small Vox DA-5 is the only one that lets you play guitar, plug in a mic to sing, and have an aux-in from like a mp3 player for your backing track.

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Nov 13 2006, 06:59 AM)
roland Cube 15 and 30 has been discontinued.
there are new models now, Cube 15X, 20X and 30X.

both vox and roland have line-in for recordings.
sound well, that one you have to listen for yourself.
but price wise, the Cubes win.

as for mic input, the small Vox DA-5 is the only one that lets you play guitar, plug in a mic to sing, and have an aux-in from like a mp3 player for your backing track.
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i think the vox is very competitively priced too right? around 900 for the 30 watts.sometimes lower. the cube 30 is always above 1k. and now with the 30x.
not too sure tho. smile.gif

to threadstarter, good that you actually read the thread. some ppl just barge in and demand answers. thumbup.gif
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VOX is maybe to be considered 'THE' most bang for buck in my book. Roland CUBE is tight, easy to use and not forgeting its size which is like the Ibanez Valbee, its cute...

But then the only complaint is VOX ADxxVT series amp come with a crappy speakers...if you don't believe what I mean...Try getting those Technics or Senheiser headphones and you wont believe the sweet tone coming from a company that had an endorsement from The Beatles.. doh.gif

But then again...Try putting Blue Alnico speakers in it...and you can roar like hell...Forget loudness coz it wont help you much in you playing...And if you are a multiamp kinda person, VOX AdXXVT series has presets to make your amp sound like a Fender Bassman, Marshall JCM 800,900, Soldano, Mesa Triple Rectifier and also its own original AC30CC or AC15 series... notworthy.gif

What else do you need on a budget worthwhile amp???

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post Nov 13 2006, 02:06 PM

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im using roland cube nw... laugh.gif i think is ok. not bad for home user and oso small hall.
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QUOTE(antonio @ Nov 13 2006, 12:42 PM)
But then again...Try putting Blue Alnico speakers in it...and you can roar like hell...Forget loudness coz it wont help you much in you playing...And if you are a multiamp kinda person, VOX AdXXVT series has presets to make your amp sound like a Fender Bassman, Marshall JCM 800,900, Soldano, Mesa Triple Rectifier and also its own original AC30CC or AC15 series... notworthy.gif

What else do you need on a budget worthwhile amp???
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Eh you have placed a Blue Alnico speaker into your amp? How much did it cost? laugh.gif

Roland's Cube does a pretty fine job at modelling its own JC amp too. And I find the Mesa setting for the Cube pretty good too, can't really comment on the Plexi and Class A model though.
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well i really wanted the vox DA-5, until ck said the list price was RM615 IIRC.
20% off will bring it to RM490, still more than the microcube.
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I wish I wish that they brought in the Epiphone Valve Junior amp.... er.... ish.
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post Nov 14 2006, 02:57 AM

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Question - can you actually play the Vox ADXXVTs clean, bypassing all of the models/effects?
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post Nov 14 2006, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Diazepam @ Nov 14 2006, 02:57 AM)
Question - can you actually play the Vox ADXXVTs clean, bypassing all of the models/effects?
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bypassing the effects of course u can. bypassing the models? i dont think you can. cause u hv to play through one model. smile.gif
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If you try out the FX loop mod on the AD30VT, you can bypass the preamp models by going straight to the valvereactor poweramp, if you plug a modeller into the FX return wink.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=286876&st=220

Look for my post on that page.
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post Nov 14 2006, 10:59 AM

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Thanks for the replies.

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post Nov 15 2006, 09:46 AM

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I think Vox ADxxVT owners are quite passionate about their amp. I guess its because stock Vox ADxxVT are good but not the best (quality wise.. tone, build, esthetically, etc) but can be modified to potentially become one's dream amp. Also, I often read a common phrase "best bang for you buck" when refering to Vox.

I dont know if there's other amp owners/users that talk about modifying their amp as passionately as Vox owners/users. Its a LOVE-HATE relationship... laugh.gif

On Roland Cube, my impression is that the factory stock Cube is a darn good amp. However I dont hear people talk about modifying theirs. Any forum where Roland Cube owners usually lepak?

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Nov 13 2006, 04:05 PM)
Eh you have placed a Blue Alnico speaker into your amp? How much did it cost? laugh.gif

Roland's Cube does a pretty fine job at modelling its own JC amp too. And I find the Mesa setting for the Cube pretty good too, can't really comment on the Plexi and Class A model though.
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Blue Alnico would cost around RM 1kplus each...so expect to spend on RM2.5k on the mod alone...Summore Blue Alnico only 30w...So 2x only 60W and if you have the 100W version....KABOOMMM...Maybe you can put four and that'll make your ADxxVT cost more than JCM2000 selling list price at Bentley...Muahhahaha laugh.gif


QUOTE(blacktrix @ Nov 13 2006, 11:46 PM)
I wish I wish that they brought in the Epiphone Valve Junior amp.... er.... ish.
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Yeah me too....wanna hear the Eminence's speaker quality also...soem say good, some say darn good.... whistling.gif


QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Nov 15 2006, 09:46 AM)
I think Vox ADxxVT owners are quite passionate about their amp. I guess its because stock Vox ADxxVT are good but not the best (quality wise.. tone, build, esthetically, etc) but can be modified to potentially become one's dream amp. Also, I often read a common phrase "best bang for you buck" when refering to Vox.

I dont know if there's other amp owners/users that talk about modifying their amp as passionately as Vox owners/users. Its a LOVE-HATE relationship...  laugh.gif

On Roland Cube, my impression is that the factory stock Cube is a darn good amp. However I dont hear people talk about modifying theirs. Any forum where Roland Cube owners usually lepak?
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Vox quality is ok lar...Not to tough but still can take on some beating...In the speaker box all need to insulate or give it some dampening to give some kick...Like i said previously, speakers are crap need to change to a better one...

Other than that I just cant find anything else...maybe some would complain about the limited 2 user banks, some would complain about those steel grills that looks ugly...but then like I say before....change speaker or get yourself a good headphnes and start playing your guitar...

Gain is ok but maybe can achieve more with gain boosters or external effects pedal....but clean is just perfect for me..From nothing else matters to jimi hendrix...all ok so far...


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