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post Jul 20 2015, 06:12 PM, updated 11y ago

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Why? They actually proud of it too.

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post Jul 20 2015, 06:14 PM

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thread gonna get nuked
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(bobohead1988 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:14 PM)
thread gonna get nuked
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like how BN government silenced Sarawak Report?

What has we become?
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:16 PM

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Itu bumi siapa punya?mahu compare kah?
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:18 PM

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Some of those muslim oversea can success and survive without tongkat called BUMI SPECIAL RIGHT and NEP. They are more educated and open minded
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:18 PM

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Because they are minority.

So... pretty obvious what we need to do here.
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:19 PM

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Sini pun ada je muslim yg tak kisah.

But yeah people just like to assume since one portion of certain people does it, then all of them are doing it

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talking about eid..takkan mau guna jesus pula.

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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:19 PM)
Sini pun ada je muslim yg tak kisah.

But yeah people just like to assume since one portion of certain people does it, then all of then are doing it
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:22 PM

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Gomen said use your own word to decribe God.. But use arab word to describe God.
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:20 PM)
talking about eid..takkan mau guna jesus pula.
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sini talking about eid pun cannot use.
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:24 PM)
sini talking about eid pun cannot use.
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example?.
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:33 PM)
example?.
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"The ban on non-Muslims using the word "Allah" received international exposure and proved enbarassing for Islamic workers, Muslim preachers, and educators throughout the world who have always strived to demonstrate that Allah is the God of all people, the God who sent Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, as well as Muhammad." laments Abu Muhammad, an Islamic worker from South Africa.

Still, ten of Malaysia's 13 states have banned non-Muslims from using up to 35 Arabic terms including the word "Allah", "solat" or prayers and even "masjid" or mosque.

In the Malaysian state of Selangor, non-Muslims are barred from using 25 words either orally or in writing according to the Non-Islamic Religion Enactment 1988 (Control of Propagations Among Muslims). Among the words are Allah, Firman Allah (Allah’s decree), solat (daily prayers), Rasul (prophet), mubaligh (missionary), mufti, iman (faith), Kaabah, Qiblat (direction in which the Muslims pray), and Haji (Muslims who have done his pilgrimage),

Selangor has also banned non-Muslims from using 10 other terms such as subhanallah, insya-Allah, astaghfirullahlah, masya- Allah and Allahuakbar orally or in writing. Those found guilty of using such terms can be fined up to RM3,000 or jailed for up to two years, or both.


On mobile difficult to paste the source, just google 35 Arab word banned in Malaysia for non Muslim
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:41 PM

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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Jul 20 2015, 06:18 PM)
Some of those muslim oversea can success and survive without tongkat called BUMI SPECIAL RIGHT and NEP. They are more educated and open minded
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pretty sure thats why they are overseas in the first place
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QUOTE(MonsterPips @ Jul 20 2015, 06:16 PM)
Itu bumi siapa punya?mahu compare kah?
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I think one has civilisation the other lacks civilisation.
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post Jul 20 2015, 06:56 PM

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This is america la. So if muslim butthurt there also they can't do shit.

when they got power, see what happen la.
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post Jul 20 2015, 07:02 PM

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Here if put 'muslim bro & sis ' also cannot. Wait they'll say ' You kafir, where is our bro & sis'
If more sensitive one will say , eh you want convert us to Christian ah, call bro & sis.


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becaue they are not the real muslims!! mad.gif

they are liberal muslims!!

we are the real muslims of 1Malaysia!! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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that's what government wants; keeping certain people as stupid as they could be

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QUOTE(keny2020j @ Jul 20 2015, 06:18 PM)
Some of those muslim oversea can success and survive without tongkat called BUMI SPECIAL RIGHT and NEP. They are more educated and open minded
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This. All those perkasa Ibrahim Ali shit pekida and so on are bunch of idiots butthurt over every single thing
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:36 PM)
On mobile difficult to paste the source, just google 35 Arab word banned in Malaysia for non Muslim
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Dayum, better watch my mouth. Who knows next year "Selamat Hari Raya" or "Eid Mubarak" also kena banned.
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post Jul 20 2015, 07:54 PM

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Influence by wat? Wat r u insinate??

They wan implement ehariah law Liao. Jes last week got VID in France of a guy flipping tables becos PPL eating.
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actually they are confuse liao

praying to jesus lettew
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in be4 if christian want to use Allah to describe holy spirit, pls convert to muslim because muslim believe holy spirit is not a god, the true god only Allah SWT the only one and nothing can compare to Allah.
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jul 20 2015, 07:37 PM)
it's because malaysia muslims were stupid. That's what government wants
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in be4 if christian want to use Allah to describe holy spirit, pls convert to muslim because muslim believe holy spirit is not a god, the true god only Allah SWT the only one and nothing can compare to Allah.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:36 PM)
On mobile difficult to paste the source, just google 35 Arab word banned in Malaysia for non Muslim
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Lik they are arabians whistling.gif
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QUOTE(DonDropUrSoap @ Jul 20 2015, 08:35 PM)
Lik they are arabians whistling.gif
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we more arab than arabs!

jangan persoal

those arab are fake arabs
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only in Malaysia, muslims will convert to christian if term allah used in christianity. whistling.gif

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Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.


http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481

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10. The Indonesian/Malay and the Middle Eastern Bible translations erroneously use the word 'Allah' to refer to the God of the Bible. Even though the argument that it is not an exclusive word for the Muslims because it pre-dates Islam and that it is currently used by Arabic speaking Christian minority, this Islamic deity called 'Allah' is never found in the Hebrew text of the Bible.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah

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The Islamic propaganda machine in the West is actively pushing for the use of the word Allah instead of God in the Western languages, especially in English. The sole purpose of this push is to promote Islam and render it an acceptable mainstream religion alongside Christianity in the West, not just from man's perspective but from God's.

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Arabic-speaking Christians should continue to use the word Allah in their language to address God since it is their generic word for the one true God, even though the understanding of His character is horribly messed up in Islam, which happens to share the same Arabic language. The Arab Christians will always be challenged to maintain that distinction and to remain biblical.

The Christians in the West should not be entangled with the moon-god theory, especially when witnessing to Muslims. In addition, English-speaking believers should resist the use of Allah in their own language and refrain from using it in any English Christian media or publications aimed at Muslims.

May the Lord fuel our evangelism to Muslims in the U.S.A. and abroad with wisdom, passion and love!

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http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/


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Several years ago, a bishop in the Netherlands attracted controversy when he argued that Christians should call God “Allah” in order to lower theological tensions. He also argued that calling God “Allah” would be commonplace in Christian churches within a century and that this would lead to a synthesis of Islam and Christianity.

More recently, an Islamic court in Malaysia ruled that only Muslims can use the name “Allah” in print publications. “The usage of the word will cause confusion in the community,” the chief judge ruled. Oddly enough, Christians may well agree with this Islamic judge. To call God “Allah” is to invite confusion.


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Our challenge is to speak truthfully about God, and the only way we can do that is to use the names God gave Himself. The God of the Bible is not Allah, and Allah is not the God of the Bible. Any confusion about that undermines the very Gospel we preach.
So, anough racing la. shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru. brows.gif


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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:15 PM)
like how BN government silenced Sarawak Report?

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Lowyat is #UNITEAGAINSTRACISM ONLY


Religious discrimination is TOTALLY OKAY.


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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.  brows.gif
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wait.

All I get from here is pot calling kettle black and "wuss who retreated 50 steps laughing at wuss who retreated 100 steps".

Does that mean because both are black therefore double negative = positive liao ones?






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wah ... kena report d ...
TS got a valid point
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:12 PM)
Sebab sana tiada mahzab umno / isma / perkasa
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The oversea Muslims not Islamic enough.

The Malaysian Muslims are the best Muslims, also the most pious and the most 'alim' bunch.
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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.  brows.gif
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One is activist that pushing for their own agenda. While the other is political ruling party pushing it for their own agenda. Looks same but actually not the same.
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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Jul 20 2015, 09:21 PM)
The oversea Muslims not Islamic enough.

The Malaysian Muslims are the best Muslims, also the most pious and the most 'alim' bunch.
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Some even believe they r more pious than arabs
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Come burn their church..salib pipul kenot use the word Allah..
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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:19 PM)
Sini pun ada je muslim yg tak kisah.

But yeah people just like to assume since one portion of certain people does it, then all of them are doing it
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What to do?
Sini punya sindrom apa sallahan saya manyak kuat...
"Kami tiada sallahan ialah motto kami"
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Sebab kat sini ada bangsa bani Ta mim
ta = Tanah
mim = melayu

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QUOTE(kheru @ Jul 20 2015, 10:10 PM)
Sebab kat sini ada bangsa bani Ta mim
ta = Tanah
mim = melayu

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different Islam?
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QUOTE(kir @ Jul 20 2015, 09:59 PM)
What to do?
Sini punya sindrom apa sallahan saya manyak kuat...
"Kami tiada sallahan ialah motto kami"
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apa sindrom bullshit you talking?

everyone knew that its always the agenda/creation of the jews/chinese/ kristian when something bad happen

silly you
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i would say because they are more open minded and can accept the true and they can different the good and bad @.@
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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.   brows.gif
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Cos they didnt make it a rule thru the courts. Up to invidual whether want use or not.

In terms of malay or Indonesian speaking, this side of Nusantara, for sure will sure since the Alkitab has it.
Plus all religious materials(including sunday school materials for kids), whether original or translated , has Allah.
And the recognised language is Bahasa Indonesia, not BM, since Indonesia has largest number of malay speaking Christians. It's a no brainer.
The complexities of translation has been discussed during the court case ie Lord God =>Tuhan Allah



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QUOTE(idunnolol @ Jul 20 2015, 11:38 PM)
apa sindrom bullshit you talking?

everyone knew that its always the agenda/creation of the jews/chinese/ kristian when something bad happen

silly you
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LOL. You have to understand, rational muslims wont blame others for their wrongdoings. Of course its different scenario if you regard Ahmad Maslan, Zahid Hamidi and Ridhuan Tee as rational muslims.
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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 21 2015, 09:05 AM)
LOL. You have to understand, rational muslims wont blame others for their wrongdoings. Of course its different scenario if you regard Ahmad Maslan, Zahid Hamidi and Ridhuan Tee as rational muslims.
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those yang berhormat you mention are walking prophets

dont persoal their rationality
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I always blame (and I do here also) the Islamic teaching they do in Malaysia, NOT THINKING AT ALL.
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Bexause in malaysia they are more malay than muslim that's why
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Did you know the decision by the Islamic authorities here on the usage of Allah was critized heavily from ulamas across the world which included Qaradawi one of the esteemed Islamic scholars of Al Azhar University Egypt.


 

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