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 Why oversea muslim not easily influenced?, When Christian use the Allah word

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chickunburrito
post Jul 20 2015, 08:46 PM

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orang yang mau hidup harmoni vs orang yang xmao hidup harmoni

simple
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post Jul 20 2015, 08:53 PM

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Bcoz they are not meleis
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post Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM

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Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.


http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481

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10. The Indonesian/Malay and the Middle Eastern Bible translations erroneously use the word 'Allah' to refer to the God of the Bible. Even though the argument that it is not an exclusive word for the Muslims because it pre-dates Islam and that it is currently used by Arabic speaking Christian minority, this Islamic deity called 'Allah' is never found in the Hebrew text of the Bible.
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah

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The Islamic propaganda machine in the West is actively pushing for the use of the word Allah instead of God in the Western languages, especially in English. The sole purpose of this push is to promote Islam and render it an acceptable mainstream religion alongside Christianity in the West, not just from man's perspective but from God's.

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Arabic-speaking Christians should continue to use the word Allah in their language to address God since it is their generic word for the one true God, even though the understanding of His character is horribly messed up in Islam, which happens to share the same Arabic language. The Arab Christians will always be challenged to maintain that distinction and to remain biblical.

The Christians in the West should not be entangled with the moon-god theory, especially when witnessing to Muslims. In addition, English-speaking believers should resist the use of Allah in their own language and refrain from using it in any English Christian media or publications aimed at Muslims.

May the Lord fuel our evangelism to Muslims in the U.S.A. and abroad with wisdom, passion and love!

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http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/


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Several years ago, a bishop in the Netherlands attracted controversy when he argued that Christians should call God “Allah” in order to lower theological tensions. He also argued that calling God “Allah” would be commonplace in Christian churches within a century and that this would lead to a synthesis of Islam and Christianity.

More recently, an Islamic court in Malaysia ruled that only Muslims can use the name “Allah” in print publications. “The usage of the word will cause confusion in the community,” the chief judge ruled. Oddly enough, Christians may well agree with this Islamic judge. To call God “Allah” is to invite confusion.


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Our challenge is to speak truthfully about God, and the only way we can do that is to use the names God gave Himself. The God of the Bible is not Allah, and Allah is not the God of the Bible. Any confusion about that undermines the very Gospel we preach.
So, anough racing la. shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru. brows.gif


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post Jul 20 2015, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:15 PM)
like how BN government silenced Sarawak Report?

What has we become?
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You silly fuck.

Lowyat is #UNITEAGAINSTRACISM ONLY


Religious discrimination is TOTALLY OKAY.


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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.  brows.gif
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wait.

All I get from here is pot calling kettle black and "wuss who retreated 50 steps laughing at wuss who retreated 100 steps".

Does that mean because both are black therefore double negative = positive liao ones?






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post Jul 20 2015, 09:18 PM

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wah ... kena report d ...
TS got a valid point
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 20 2015, 06:12 PM)
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Why? They actually proud of it too.

https://www.facebook.com/quranalyzeit/photo...pe=1&permPage=1
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post Jul 20 2015, 09:21 PM

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The oversea Muslims not Islamic enough.

The Malaysian Muslims are the best Muslims, also the most pious and the most 'alim' bunch.
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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.  brows.gif
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One is activist that pushing for their own agenda. While the other is political ruling party pushing it for their own agenda. Looks same but actually not the same.
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post Jul 20 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(HITMAN316 @ Jul 20 2015, 09:21 PM)
The oversea Muslims not Islamic enough.

The Malaysian Muslims are the best Muslims, also the most pious and the most 'alim' bunch.
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Some even believe they r more pious than arabs
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post Jul 20 2015, 09:33 PM

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Come burn their church..salib pipul kenot use the word Allah..
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post Jul 20 2015, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(marlick25 @ Jul 20 2015, 06:19 PM)
Sini pun ada je muslim yg tak kisah.

But yeah people just like to assume since one portion of certain people does it, then all of them are doing it
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What to do?
Sini punya sindrom apa sallahan saya manyak kuat...
"Kami tiada sallahan ialah motto kami"
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post Jul 20 2015, 10:10 PM

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Sebab kat sini ada bangsa bani Ta mim
ta = Tanah
mim = melayu

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post Jul 20 2015, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(kheru @ Jul 20 2015, 10:10 PM)
Sebab kat sini ada bangsa bani Ta mim
ta = Tanah
mim = melayu

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different Islam?
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post Jul 20 2015, 11:34 PM

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post Jul 20 2015, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(kir @ Jul 20 2015, 09:59 PM)
What to do?
Sini punya sindrom apa sallahan saya manyak kuat...
"Kami tiada sallahan ialah motto kami"
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apa sindrom bullshit you talking?

everyone knew that its always the agenda/creation of the jews/chinese/ kristian when something bad happen

silly you
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post Jul 20 2015, 11:42 PM

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i would say because they are more open minded and can accept the true and they can different the good and bad @.@
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post Jul 20 2015, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(shahzane @ Jul 20 2015, 09:07 PM)
Meanwhile, on the other side of the coin, there also Christians who refuse to use the word "Allah" as the name of god.
http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/185481
http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/44453-...-the-word-allah
http://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/d...p-the-same-god/
So, anough racing la.  shakehead.gif

both side also have golongan mudah keliru.   brows.gif
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Cos they didnt make it a rule thru the courts. Up to invidual whether want use or not.

In terms of malay or Indonesian speaking, this side of Nusantara, for sure will sure since the Alkitab has it.
Plus all religious materials(including sunday school materials for kids), whether original or translated , has Allah.
And the recognised language is Bahasa Indonesia, not BM, since Indonesia has largest number of malay speaking Christians. It's a no brainer.
The complexities of translation has been discussed during the court case ie Lord God =>Tuhan Allah



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