QUOTE(yok70 @ Jan 26 2016, 12:29 AM)
the chart dont look good for crude. struggling to move higher .... tempted to get in at 320+USA Stock Discussion v7, Greece Debt Crisis!
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Jan 26 2016, 12:35 AM
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Jan 26 2016, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Jan 26 2016, 12:42 AM) Somehow I think Oil is the leading indicator for stocks (SP500, Dow, Nasdaq) now. When Oil falls, stocks also fall and they all follow. The majors (SP500, Dow, Nasdaq) shouldn't do that but because of all the "programmed" functions, they just do until they diverge out. At this moment, the close correlation is intriguing. agree. i keep seeing bloomberg tv showing the correlation between SP and crude...they actually move closely together.Yes, Oil right now, fundamentally is oversupplied - but then, what is the right price when it makes no sense to be so low anymore, right? Until all the producers decided to shut off their wells, then bam, we will run into undersupply and oil will zoom back to $100? Sometimes, the market forces just overshoot to the downside and then overshoot to the upside again. The demand for oil actually still growing but not as fast as the supplies are available. But, below $30, I think, it already too low to make sense to even pump for oil. It takes more than $30 in more than 50% of the rigs world wide to make money. Also, since Malaysia oil is off-shore, this is extremely expensive too...I think they are losing money everyday if oil stays at $30. No wonder, Msia govt warns of retrenchment in O&G sector. This year it is going to be tough. also, strange as i agree, stock prices n indices are following crude these days, thus discouraging me to pick up any shares as crude has been declining.... shd crude to fluctuate near 30 or lower, i believe our government will make more cuts, ....scholarship, infrastructure, medical etc etc... and last ditch is to RAISE and UP many things...again! harder 2016 it seems |
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Jan 26 2016, 04:19 PM
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possibly dwti can hit back its 400 level with ease
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Jan 26 2016, 10:54 PM
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i m shorting crude....330
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Jan 26 2016, 10:55 PM
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shorting with onl usd 10 for stop loss. too risky to let it stay free.
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Jan 26 2016, 11:07 PM
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ya. me closing my short as saudi is considering 'cut'...
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Jan 26 2016, 11:09 PM
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closed, around 322.5 as yahoo not updating real time ...damn
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Jan 26 2016, 11:13 PM
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looks like crude >31
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Jan 27 2016, 12:50 PM
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glpbaal economy cant be turning around that fast? looks more like speculations n romour rides.
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Jan 27 2016, 11:02 PM
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lets go. dwti at 318+
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Jan 27 2016, 11:36 PM
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closed, 312. lost usd6+
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Jan 27 2016, 11:42 PM
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lucky me. after making a tea, and see dwti at 302!!!
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Jan 27 2016, 11:56 PM
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again, dwti, 304+
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Jan 27 2016, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 27 2016, 11:47 PM) i went uwti in 192, out 205, happy. great. thats +8% quicky!dow is -100 steady, doesn't look like crude can go very far tonight... damn, this thing is more than a casino. it simply juimps few% here and there. i play it cos i will spend a little time at it. cant lose too much sleep over it as dows now closes at 5am local time. |
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Jan 28 2016, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Jan 28 2016, 12:01 AM) i am actually getting a little tired... not getting enough sleep, very bad. me too. i was losing sleep when the trading hr changed. cant work properly so has decided to give a pause.will do this crude thingy less, try to close shop early. do the less volatile ones... dow still -100. market may just mark time, wait for fed statement at 3am.... another late night... |
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Jan 28 2016, 12:21 AM
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me out, 295. lost again. enough
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Jan 28 2016, 10:07 PM
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crude madness raging on! +4% now.
1 thing is that indices and ewuity prices are more dependent on crude prices these days (it wasnt so much last time right?). wonder how would i feel now if i had hold some of uwti at 1.70!!! watching xle .. |
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Jan 28 2016, 10:09 PM
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crude seems to ba long-biased these days. no matter what happens, it will make its continual climb.
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Jan 28 2016, 10:14 PM
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i might buy few uwti and keep them aside till mid year. serious
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Jan 28 2016, 10:18 PM
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its 44, march 2016 !!!
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